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Argenti replied to Through the Living Wrath's topic in Roleplaying
Jakob lets out a string of loud, violent curses in three languages that seem to curl hairs. He's still not home, and he swears to whatever gods are left, if he needs to eat that so called Flame's heart he will. I am not working on a farm I swear to Joy. -
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@TwinStorm you hear claws on steel and the hiss of melting stone. Your watch buzzes... A seeker is nearby.
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The white fox is sound asleep, in someone's bag. It hasn't even stirred.
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I'm not sure what you mean by that? And it seems like lots of Shifting is exterior, not just internal like you said. That's not what I meant. It's useful, sure, but how does it relate to shapeshifting? How does it strengthen that fantasy? In general, you don't want a magic system with a built in answer to it's own flaws- Feruchemy needs another system to get around the issue of power, Zahel needs to travel to another planet to get around his issue of eating souls, and so forth. Eating Vaw could absolutely ward off their mental cracks, but they shouldn't have a way to get it any easier than everyone else. Yup, sounds good to me. Like Nomad esq? Thank you. I honestly think it would be more fun if their physical body rotted as they used their power, the whole planet is kinda undead. As an aside, why do you think spikes would help their mental issues? Even the blessing of presence, despite granting mental fortitude, has a net minium in mental strength. Unless you're thinking of the lynchpin spike? All spikes, even after they're removed, damage the spiritweb more. They can "hold things together," yes, but they do leave perment and lasting harm, and it would drive you more insane, but stop your limbs from falling off.
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annnd all my hard work was deleted by the shard. Ugh.
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So Indulgence has been a shard for at least 220 years, probably closer to 300+ (because of the facts of corruption's ascension) WAT
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I'll give you some specific ones. The way you've designed Shifting isn't just Shapeshifting, it's effectively tearing up and distorting your own Spiritweb in exchange for power. This goes well with the idea of corruption supercharging native investiture. Perhaps a shifting Cycle would be interesting, where each time you ascend to one through a personal feat, you gain a power, but loose a power, which comes back later? Also Corruption doesn't really need to have a rank in the Invested Art. He's a shard. I like it, but I think it should vary based on power. For example, initially, a Shifter might be able to adopt the aspects of native flora, like claws or something. Later, they could start to change their whole body, and even later, they would get better control and create new forms, etc. Eh. I get it makes sense to corrupt other things, but when I hear shapeshifter, I don't think of turning one thing into another. I think Shifting should be mostly contained to internal changes, hijacking as external. Yeah, makes sense. Keep in mind giving yourself other, especially non-corruption, invested arts is very difficult. Hoid had a hard time, and he's been around for millennia. It would be far easier to manipulate your own connections, identity, and fortune in different ways. It's useful, but what does it have to do with the fantasy of shapeshiftering? You can say you shift through realms, but that's just a word. I shift gravity, I shift your emotions, It doesn't mean anything. Is this supposed to be a vawing? The magic rain? As above, useful, but how does it relate? Corrupting investiture is fine, but that doesn't give you the power to burn metals to get corrupted investiture. Ruin doesn't grant allomancy. It would let you co-op other magic, if you come across it. You don't just generate corrupted investiture. Is it bound as one cohesive whole? Can you just make infinite material? Why is this better or worse than Other Shifting? Can I use this as spikes? I have questions. Shards can just do that. They don't need a specific power for this. ...How is this different than Self shifting? Why are shifters the only one who can take advantage of it? Why can it perfectly store intent? What does that even mean? How is making hemalurgy able to steal shifting, tainting it? Nicrosil, Duralumanin, Atium or Lerasium could probably steal shifting, that's not a strange concept to it? So the reason Chemalurgy is more effective is because it's more destructive? How does this interact with the hard limit of things you can put in your spirit web? (4) You say their mental barriers increase as they gain more cracks, but that's the opposite of what happens. In addition, a ruptured spiritweb such as a shifter's would have horrible effects on their body- I'd imagine you'd be unable to return to your native, natural form at all eventually. A heavily damaged spirit web makes you physically weaker, faster to exhaust, mentally stunted. In addition, a heavily damaged spirit web like a shifter's would make it easier, not harder for a hjacker or other influences to invade and control. The way you've described it, his friend is would be essentially an insane pile of cancerous flesh with a shredded soul, dragonhood be damned. Sounds like he killed his friend with extra steps. I'm really confused by what you mean by spatial shifting. A heavily damaged shard (which is what cracks are) makes them vulnerable and weak. A high crack count is terrible.
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Ah to hell with it I'm not getting any sleep anyway. Hijacking (Wildforming? Spiritforming?Hacking? Idk) doesn't have massive issues, it just kinda got grouped in with shifting which I have large issues with (since they're so intertwined). If it was me, I'd get rid of the distinction between physical, mental, and spiritual, and rather just pick one or two (or limit what spiritual aspects it can change?)- it's a bit more interesting to have a limitation on what the system as a whole can change. The very short timer (measured more in the seconds or minutes?) certainly helps with keeping it a nice amount of strong; it's not the end all be all of magic systems. Also. We should decide more about the pre-shardic history. Since the flora and fauna have some investiture, and Ver's Ascension is presumbly recent ish (within a few hundred years) I'd presume there was a medium-low level of Environmental Investiture before Ver's Ascension. (Is Ver from here? How recent is indulgence?) I digress. That means there was some sort of Latent Investiture which had to have some shardic intent and could have spawned a weak system. The likely shards are Ambition (Indulgence has to get it from somewhere, and it's not threnody. Plus she bled out), Autonomy (she's everywhere) or Cultivation and a bit of Ruin (duh). I would love it if the local systems used to be weaker to until they got super charged by the many Shards that now dwell in their system. So like, maybe old shifting used to be just gaining the traits of the local Fauna, Hjacking used to be limited to say, hijacking natural flora?
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I'll give you some in the morning.
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yeah, they're essentially the same type of being.
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I'll just put my main gripes with Shifting and Hijacking here, for those of you who can't see the docs. (Shifting and Hijacking) First off I question why a shard focused on change and unchecked growth/destruction have strict, orderly levels that grant set powers? Shard intent and planet type typically inform the structure and access of the invested art, if not the invested acts themselves. I'm under the assumption that Corruption is largely dominated by the shard's intent. Entropic said the vessel wasn't that assertive, which would make me think he couldn't act beyond what the shard would want. Secondly, Shifting and Hijacking both seem a little... expansive in my opinion? Shapeshifting, OP Soulcasting (Makes sense as far as corruption goes), Elsecalling, Budget Bondsmithing/ Essence marks, full Mistborn powers, Hemulurgly that's just better in every way (There's not a single downside to using Chemalurgy over anything else. It would be better to spike yourself and give yourself double power-loosing hemulargic decay get rid of its only flaw.), generation of Perpendicularities, magical prosthesis, Fabrials, Awakening and inverse Forgery (Likely things are harder) are just the things I noticed. Remember Sanderson's second and third laws; Limitations are more interesting than Powers, and expand what you have before you add anything new. We need to cut both systems down a bit to a core idea- what does each system want to do? What is corruption's intent? Even mighty, expansive powers like Forgery, Bondsmithing, and Elantrians have downsides, limitations, and a core idea. Forgery requires research and years of work, and can't work well on things that aren't likely, Bondsmithing is very very rare, and can only manipulate connection, while Aon Dor requires you to be in a small geographical area and for you to know specific arcane symbols. All of these have ways around them, yes, but they're difficult to do, and more importantly, cheating-they're not built in. Could there be a way for Chemalurgy to double power, sure! But should it be a native thing that just happens whenever you do it? I don't think so.
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oh, also. I belive we're not allowed to mention that outside of spoiler boxers. Right @Greywatch? (Sorry for the random ping, you're just the only mod online rn)
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We should do colors on those docs, just to see who put what where. @Lopens Tenth Cousin, do you have a magic system idea for indulgence, and do you think they're "native" to the planet? If you don't, would you like me to come up with one?
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More on the Star elves. More on "the Family" (one day I will flesh each one out.....) Bit more on Dazh, or the Sun Elf They're all light-based life forms, imprinted with sentience and power. They call each other cousins.
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I suspect your planet will win!
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"Just keep walking..." the white fox yawns, and points to a hill. "On the base of that hill, beneath an oak..." It rolls it's eyes "As if your zap would hurt."
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"Do you have a pack or anything I can sleep in?" The white fox says, starting to nod off.
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"I'm not born of the Day, you know. It taxes me. What is safe?" The Bleached fox ponders, "There are caves beneath us, but who knows what hides down there?"
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