RenegadeShroom

How would Hemalurgy ever, ever be used as therapy!! It involves killing people, or at least seriously marring their Spiritweb, and then stabbing it into someone else!! I am at loss on how you think it could be used as therapy. I am seriously confused.

The person who's getting their power stolen/transferred doesn't necessarily have to die, and hemalurgy is by extension, not a necessarily bad thing. It could be used to take powers from willing 'donors' (I imagine that this would either involve people very near-death) and staple those powers onto others. Say, you're a weak coinshot, so you want a steel spike, for whatever reason. Or giving feruchemical gold and/or allomantic pweter to someone who otherwise has no chance of recovery! I imagine there's plenty of potentially positive uses for hemalurgy like that.

I figured that Sazedium (after all, Lerasium and Atium aren't called Presevationium and Reuinium, are they? ) would be a 50/50 alloy of Lerasium/Atium, since Feruchemy is (or at least, if I remember correctly) equally of Preservation and Ruin, and Harmony is assumably also equally of the two, since they cancel each other out. So I imagine that pure Sazedium would be a 50/50 ratio.

In any case, I've heard theories that suggest that it makes one a Feruchemist when burned, but I'm not so sure. Although I haven't any logical reason to doubt it. XD

I can see hemalurgy being used humanely, or at least, humanely as possible. I mean, it's not a requirement that it kills someone to steal their power, right? So volunteers and allomancers/feruchemists on their deathbeds could offer to have their abilities 'transplanted' to a recipent. :3

Aside from that, I have to agree with master, that arranged marriages would be the best solution available to the people of Scadrial for full users of the metallic arts, but criminal organisations and such would probably have breeding programs in place, and I'm curious where Alloy leads to with that. It's possible that the Mistborn serial killer in the second trilogy is a result of their breeding program, perhaps

I was pretty sure it's been more or less explicitly stated that we won't be seeing anymore mistborn/feruchemists. I think that the mistborn for the second trilogy will almost certainly be hemalurgically created and I can't think of any moral way to rip out chunks of peoples soul

That's true. xD However! I'd still say that a hemalurgically-created Mistborn is still a Mistborn, and I wouldn't discount it. I mean, organisations and scientists, would, I imagine, have an interest in creating people with the full range of powers, no?

In fact, the more people are born, the more and more unlikely it will become for a keeper Mistborn to be born, not to mention just a Misting/TwinBorn/Ferring. They are becoming even rarer themselves. Mistborn are just legends and I don't think the populace at large knew there were such things as Keepers.

I'm not entirely sure I understand how that works. :3 Surely a larger population also means more Allomancers/Feruchemists/Twinborn, because (although I doubt the numbers would stay the same proportionally) the number of these individuals being born would also increase? And like I said above, surely scientists and other organisations might very well have good reasons to be interested in creating their own Mistborn/Full Twinborn/[full] Feruchemist?

Having said that, I doubt that we'll ever see someone born with full use of both powers, so I suppose it's a moot point in that case. Ah well. XD

TLR was the only one. He knew that as long as both Feruchemists and Allomancers existed, there was a potential threat of another being like himself, born with, or somehow granted both powers (lerasium and/or Hemalurgy). And there will be more Mistborn in Scadrial's future, and there will almost certainly be Feruchemists born as well. Those two bloodlines meet? You get someone with both the powers. The larger the population gets, the more chance it'll have of occurring, and not to mention potential Hemalurgic craziness and either forced breeding programs (like in Alloy) and scientific progress providing more moral ways for it, like any individuals with either power being required to donate sex cells. I reckon it's almost certainly gonna happen, at some point. I dunno, I just don't think it seems all that logical to dismiss the idea of multiple such people ever existing on Scadrial.

Although, I don't agree that someone who has full access to both powers should be called a twinborn. Though I don't have a suggestion of my own to make in that regard.

If aluminium is allomantically inert, does it affect all the external metals, or just the external metals from the basic eight metals?

if aluminum can not be effected by steel, iron, zinc, and brass. would it possible be uneffected by other forms of alomancy? such as dampaning zeekers abilitys or some how having an effect on sliders?

That's an interesting thought, and it makes aluminium even more useful. You could use it to completely negate the usefulness of Seekers, Smokers, Leechers and Nicrobursts, assuming you can apply the aluminium properly. And cadmium and bendalloy would be interesting. Would you perhaps be able to become immune to the temporal changed if you were covered in aluminium? How about if you were wearing an aluminium glove and you happened to be inside a bubble? Would it just protect your hand from the bubble, and nothing else? Cause that's just insanely trippy. xD

I think someone should pose the question to Brandon: Does Aluminium affect all allomantic metals, including the higher and god-metals, or just the basic ones? It'd be totally schweet to know. =D

EDIT: I just now noticed that so far, the only allomantic powers affected by aluminium seem to be external. Iron/Steel and Zinc/Brass. Now, the reason for that seems obvious, since it can't really interact all too well with the internal equivalents. But what about tin? Would it be the same effect as Ruin/Preservation trying to look at metals, would they simply be unable to see, or otherwise sense it?

Hum. Reading my username used like that, well, it sounds a bit awkward/clunky, doesn't it? Just call me Shroom, or abbreviate it. =D 'Twas Triumvirate that introduced me.

Well, if it helps, I hear that we fungi are far more closely related to animals than plants! And besides, I'd figure that something capable of sentient thought would have a spiritweb. ;D

Dohoho, I see what you did there, sir. XD

Thanks for the warm welcome, guys. =D

Eh, I figured I should make an intro topic if I'm starting to actually post. Honestly, I don't usually feel comfortable doing these, but I always ennd up doing 'em anyway. Yeah. *Awkward silence*

So, yeah! Although I've been a member for some time, until this year, I never really went on here all that much, to my regret. And I only started posting recently. So, a long-time lurker stepping out of the shadows, I guess? ^__^

I found the Cosmere because someone on another forum (who I recently discovered has an account here. ) recommended Mistborn to me two or three years back, and since then I've done my best to read and obtain each one of 'em -- although Mistborn still remains my favourite of all of 'em -- after which I started to go to lurking here for a while. I managed to get at least. . . five people to read Mistborn over the last couple of years, too. Although I didn't spike them, unfortunately. D:

I rather enjoy drawing and procrastination, and I absolutely lurve my Cosmere books. And StarCraft. There're a few other things, like [classic] Sonic the Hedgehog, Chrono Trigger, the Bartimaeus Trilogy, Star Trek and more, but if I were to go into detail about my various fanboyisms, both rational and irrational, well, you guys'd just end up reading a rather boring and lengthy wall o' text, and I doubt anybody wants that. XD

I think that covers everything? Hi? XD

Oh! Where do I go to get spiked? Surely you guys let fungi use the metallic arts 'round here, right? ;D

I don't think that a kandra and a human could produce any offspring whatsoever. The koloss are (or were) essentially still human, but with twisted physical forms due to their hemalurgic origins. So it stands that if Harmony changed them into a true-breeding species, that they would be able to mate with humans to produce offspring. Whereas all kandra (excepting the first generation) are constructed from mistwraiths, something completely different.

Although, the fact that the kandra have shapeshifting abilities kind of mucks it up a bit. We have no idea whether that means that they'd be able to reproduce with a human or not. :3

If a Brazier (actually, yeah, that does seem like a good name for a double brass Twinborn. ^__^) were able to focus heat on a specific body part, wouldn't their tapping the brassmind for heat cause their body to become resistant to the pressures being exerted upon it? Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to recall something about tapping metalminds causing the Feruchemist's body to undergo changes that allows them to withstand the pressures that are placed upon them as a result of tapping the metalmind. So, feasibly, a Brazier setting themselves on fire would be able to withstand being on fire? At least, until they stop tapping heat.

Although, I imagine a Brazier could set other things on fire by tapping large amounts of heat? That seems like it'd be useful, but I can't think of any uses at the moment. XD

Eh, he started writing it when he was fifteen, and published it when he was eighteen. Not to mention he took a fair few names from LotR, the plot from Star Wars, the magic from the Belgariad/Malloreon (as well as a scene or three which were copied from the Belgariad) and the language he 'made' is just old Norse with a few random letters/accents here and there. And Eldest was so boring. Seriously. And the hero is rather brutal, yet every good guy still loves him. AKA, he's a Mary Sue, and so is his love interest. :3

You probably wouldn't believe me if I told you that it was being a member of the biggest fan forum for the Inheritance Cycle that made me come to dislike it. XD

I'm thinking Pewter misting/Bronze ferring would be an incredibly useful combination for a number of things, particularly jobs/careers where there's a lot of physical work involved. And I'm guessing any military would love to have soldiers that can stay alert/awake longer, and still be strong and fit for duty while awake. And I imagine having koloss blood wouldn't hurt, either! XD

And I really like the idea of using Iron to fly. I have no idea if it'd work or not, but it sounds really cool. XD

(such a shame we can't have Gold AND Electrum Feruchemy)

Hemalurgy? Or a full Feruchemist that's also a Misting? Sure we can!

Did Brandon actually say that there are no living Mistborn during Alloy of Law, though? I mean, him speaking in an interview or some such, as the author, not in the book. Because characters can be wrong about things in their world, so I'd say there's a possibility of there still being Mistborn, but they're simply well-hidden. But, honestly, it doesn't matter to me whether there's full Mistborn or not, really. XD