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Hey all, I did something I’ve been wanting to do for a long time - get a BookTuber to analyze and critique my Cosmere theory! Original post ( 8 years ago): video: Jacky from Me, My Skirt, and I was awesome to work with and she definitely did her homework! Let me know what you think.

Four years ago, I posted my end-of-the-cosmere theory, which can be found here. With the release of Isles of the Emberdark, we've now got a TON more information about the Sleepless. I share to get feedback, both affirming and constructive! Supporting my theories: In the furthest point in the timeline of the Cosmere, Sleepless are found on most of the prominent planets (Roshar, Scadrial, Lumar, 1st of the Sun, The Grand Aparatus, Komashi). Similar to Thanos in the first Saga of Avengers movies, they are hinted at, but never the main villian. The Sleepless have the capability to travel in the physical realm between planets. The Sleepless "prefer to influence behind the scenes" and have been placed in positions of power (like a spy for the Malwish emporer) The Sleepless anatomy includes a critical weakness, with Memory and Processor nodes that are limited in number, restricted by distance and a way "perma-kill". For them to become the big bad, there needs to be a way for the heroes to win. Chrysalis describes herself as a God. The Sleepless can be really old (6,000 years), giving them a longer horizon to implement plans. Detracting from my theories: Nothing concrete. This book has my excitement about this theory turned up to 11! Admittedly, I am mostly locked in on: The Sleepless will be the way Adonalsium reforms. Autonomy will play a role. TYIA!

If you're like me, you spend a lot of time perusing the Coppermind. I expect to use it quite a bit come Wind and Truth release day. Rather that googling something, scrolling past ads and other sites (that shall not be named), then clicking the Coppermind link, what if you could search Coppermind directly? The good news is you can! Here's how: In your Chrome browser, click the 3 vertical dots in the top right and select Settings at the bottom of the menu. On the left select Search Engine and then click the button that says Manage Search Engine and Site Search. Scroll down and click Add next to Site Search. Name can be anything. (ex. Coppermind) Shortcut is what you'll type into your browser (ex. coppermind or cm) URL should be https://coppermind.net/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=%s Save After restarting your browser, you can now type your shortcut (coppermind or cm) into your brower, hit Tab, then whatever you want to search for. Pressing enter will take you directly to the page or to the Copperminds search area. Please let me know if you've got any questions!

@bmcclure7 good questions! The premise of my theory is that the sleepless will be the tool to unify Adonalsium, thus rectifying "The Great Sin". The Iriali believe God broke itself into many beings in order to experience the universe, but one day, they will reform. I see parallels with what Autonomy is doing, spreading herself across the galaxy.

TLM update here for spoiler reasons.

Last year I posted my end-of-the-cosmere theory, which can be found here. In lieu of breaking the spoiler policy (who would do that??), I am posting updates here and linking. I am open to feedback/criticism! TLM didn't do much to support it, but I also don't think it rules it out. Supporting my theories: The army of Autonomy appear (lookswise) to be similar to the Iriali (Gold skin). The alignment Autonomy and the Iriali make sense thematically. Autonomy's goal of spreading to different planets and investing avatars, align with the motivations I've put forth above. Detracting from my theories: Bavadin is confirmed as holding Autonomy. I still believe Bavadin could use the Sleepless to accomplish her goals (stated above). She may have also created them, as they are not native to Roshar.

Might want to look into this...

@Ookla the Frustrated understood! I just want to make sure you hadn't seen something more explicit. Do you think the theory is plausible?

Ah @Gderu very good questions. I didn't articulate this well, so I'll revise my original post. I believe Hoid would oppose someone or something else reforming Adonalsium, before he accomplishes his goal. We don't know a lot about the motivations of the Sleepless. (Speculation) As a hive mind, they may wish to attain the mind expansion ascending offers. Plausible?

Interesting! Where do you see that? The only thing I can find in the Arcanum says that when asked if Sleepless can hold shards, he responds that non-humans can and have been shards. Certain (unspecified) sapient creatures cannot be. *

Questions I'd ask Brandon if given the opportunity: Can Sleepless swarms re-constitute if they choose to identify as one being? Would a hordeling, born on Nalthis, whose swarm had been there for generations and whose Identity is linked to the location, and holds a Connection with Endowment, be born with a Breath? If a Sleepless were to hold a shard and a hordeling were to break away, would it be a Sliver? An Avatar? A Splinter?

Hello all, I just finished listening to the Old Cosmere Theories Shardcast from last year. I've got a theory cooking in my head and could use some help validating or poking holes in it! Theory: The Sleepless will be the mechanism to reform Adonalsium and will be the primary antagonist against Hoid in the endgame of the Cosmere Supporting Evidence: A vessel picking up a shard requires a sapient being in the Physical Realm. The Sleepless are sapient beings in the Physical realm. A vessel must have sufficient Connection to a shard to hold it. A being can be Connected to multiple shards. * Connection can be tied to an area (ex. Shardworlds) in the Physical Realm. This can cause beings that are heavily invested to be "stuck" in a specific location. * The Sleepless are Cosmere aware and have the ability to world hop. Connection can be inherited. * The Sleepless can selectively breed hordelings for a purpose. * The Sleepless bodies are thousands of hordelings, sharing a single mind. * There is an underlying theme of Identity and self-perception in the Cosmere. A table does not think of itself as multiple pieces of wood or nails. It sees itself as a whole. Hordelings have the ability to separate from the hive mind to operate autonomously, presumably changing their self-perception and Idenity in their spirit web. * They can even lose contact Cognitively. * Sleepless reproduce by forming multiple beings from their existing horde, meaning (presumably) all Sleepless are ancestors of a single original swarm. * Through a mental link (presumably in the Cognitive Realm) they can communicate with other swarms. The Sleepless will play a very important role in Mistborn Era 4 * Hoid will be a main character in Mistborn Era 4 * Hoid's goals are unclear, but he may wish to reform of Adonalsium. Another entity doing so may interfere with his goals. A Hoid/ Sleepless race to collect shards could be a major plot point towards the end of the Cosmere. In plain English: I believe the Sleepless, over thousands of years, will spread across all of the shard worlds, adapting to the local geography, cultures, and magic systems. Independent swarms with be Connected with the local investiture and shardic intent, and when the time is right, they will take up the power of each shard. Once possessing all of the shards, the Sleepless (communicating via their mental link) will re-identify as a single entity, pulling together all of the aspects and powers of Adonalsium. This, IMHO, is the most elegant way to overcome the barriers of a human or dragon reforming Adonalsium, namely geography and Identity. Other facts that seem connected, but I don't know what to do with: The first Sleepless swarm to come to Roshar were said to look like spiders. * Could this play into the Spirit Webs? The Iriali's religion of a single entity breaking into smaller parts to have diverse experiences, only to one day reunite. They are aware of the Sleepless. * In this way, the Sleepless thematically match the shattering of Adonalsium. Known contradictions: The Coppermind says once a vessel ascends, they lose connection with their former species. This is lowercase c connection. I disagree with the interpretation of the WoB, as question was more about classifying the vessel. Bonus Theory: Kelsier will inhabit a Sleepless body and will be that primary antagonist in MBE4 Supporting Evidence: The Ghostbloods have a Sleepless aligned to their cause. Kelsier is bound to Scadrial. Kelsier is known as the "Lord of Scars". Sleepless, when imitating humans, have lines along their body where the hordeling intersect, appearing as either scars or tattoos. Kelsier and Hoid have had conflicts. Hoid considers him very dangerous. * The Set are said to have a longer timeframe for their goals The Set are aligned to Trell (presumably Autonomy) The Sleepless have a long timeframe, taking hundreds of years to selectively breed to meet their needs. * Bonus Theory: Autonomy now, or in the future, will be held by a Sleepless (maybe Patji) Supporting Evidence: Autonomy is referred to with male, female, and non-gendered pronouns. The Sleepless can present themselves as male or female and use non-gendered pronouns. Autonomy has many avatars on many planets The Sleepless are present on multiple planets Autonomy has been known to appear in various forms The Sleepless have the ability to change form by configuring different sets of hordelings Patji (linked to Automony) is a shard of Adonalsium * Patji (the island) has locations named after body parts (ex Eye of Patji, Patji's fingers) Sleepless hordelings have been known to get as big as buildings. Perhaps they could continue to grow to the size of islands. Known contradictions: Brandon was explicitly asked if Bavadin is a hive mind or an Amian, to which he said no. * This question was about Bavadin, not Autonomy. Bavadin's coppermind page lists them as the original and current shard of Autonomy, but the citations don't appear to confirm this. PHEW! That was a lot. I look forward to hearing your thoughts, both confirmative and constructive.

I love the openness and transparency with the data!

@Georion / @Stormcrown - I hope your RoW reads went well and were spoiler-free. I know I'm about a month late in responding. Looks like the day after this discussion, the Time Machine was rolled out: This seems like the most elegant way to handle avoiding spoilers on recent releases. If you are as far behind the overall Cosmere as I am, the spoilerblock code I whipped up has been working like a charm. Browse Coppermind without fear of spoilers.

@Leafygeans thank you! I totally understand. That's why I've backed off. I think it would be helpful for a few people, but I don't want to throw it out there if I don't have the blessing of the editors, Keepers, Squires, or Admins. I have not done any plugin work. I'd classify myself as a hobbyist. Good luck with getting the book and updating the articles!