Aeternum

Approaching the end of the day for me (1 hour give or take), and I don't have a vote up. I think it's unfair for me to say RBM vote today because I haven't checked over everyone else to the extent I took a look at RBM by. I'm guessing my vote might not affect things because I won't be around at EoD, but it did yesterday iirc.

Could be either, but I haven't gone back and looked at Cash recently. Weirdo was first on my mind.

I did PM Raven pretty late I'm ngl

Crossed the fence which way? I agree that it's not overt. I could see similarities and differences, but I think the reactivity-only thing was the same in both games. I've never played with v!RBM so I don't know if this game is more similar to that or not.

Town read

You're making it hard for me to TR you

WELL it turns out my notes are terrible and I should get town privilege revoked for my reads smh. I took a look back through the LG (how did I not get voted out...) THEN I reread all of your posts this game. Tbh. I can see a similarity between your posting this game vs the LG. BUT you seem less ... defensive? In this game. I don't want to make assumptions about your availability, but it really feels like you've been around less, and I think I've seen you lurking more? This could be NAI ig. I shouldn't base all my reads off of the LG, though. Also, in the LG, an e!RBM world was brought up so many times, yet never voted out. Do we really want to repeat that again lol (this push is totally about to backfire on me) You've also been very... uhhh reactive only? But as in, you don't often say much unless it is in response to someone asking you / mentioning you / etc. No original ideas/thoughts that I saw. I feel like I'm tunnelling, but your push on Archer also almost feels like TMI argh. I also would like to see your reasoning on why you think newer players are more likely to be elims this game. Also thoughts on Weaver. ALSO THIS: My read back on the LG made me notice that e!RBM likes to jump on wagons / doesn't have original thoughts which I think I am seeing in this game so far. Why am I struggling so much with reading this game That's ok hope your studying is going well If you have thoughts on RBM or Weaver, that would be cool.

Highest 2 on my sus list. Haven't decided if there's a pairing there, though. Give me motivation to look back lol

RBM/Weirdo/Weaver maybe? But that suggests a very newbie team. RBM/Cash/Weaver as secondary. Could throw TUA in there and I wouldn't disagree, but that is based off of your reads of TUA because some of us are bad at reading TUA. I trust your TUA reads because you've got far more experience there. I can't say anything about Quivil yet, which is unfortunate but a /shrug. At least 1 wolf in RBM/Weirdo/Cash/Weaver. Don't remember if there was anything about a RBM/Weaver pairing, but I'm tempted to put them on the elim team together in my head. Weaver looks like e!me with the lurking, I've seen them around several times now. I'm not a big fan of RBM's posting so far. Weirdo hasn't been around much (understandably busy with classes) - I did see Weirdo online a few times tho, but I'll write it off. Since he's here, @RoyalBeeMage I need more thoughts from you. Don't want to ML today, but Weaver/RBM is my priority probably. Aet stop screwing up your votes lol

Shhhhh it's ok, I won't tell anyone else. Hey, you could talk about your thoughts on salmon.

This is peak Aet activity hours, so if you're around, I'd like to hear some thoughts.

It's jokingly.

*adds to town list*

Hi Quivil! I hope you like salmon and murder

That's fair. Good luck in your classes! When you have the chance, I'd love to hear your thoughts so far.

No, I agree with only one could be.

I thought that's what you were saying. I would still keep RBM and Weaver on the table for today's vote. EDIT Weirdo d1 Weirdo d2 biggest contribution ig And that's it from Weirdo.

Would you say Weirdo or Cash is better for today?

Yeah. I've yet to get that opportunity so I don't know what it would look like specifically. Self-incriminating, aren't I. lol That's true. Rip. I didn't consider that. What I think is two in Spark/Weaver/RBM, but I'm not sure about Spark bc of the PH thing, so I'll wait on that. I also have not seen much of Weirdo tbh I don't think purity reads have to be an "aha you're perfectly town" moment, but I do think they help me consider town-y things for them? I've never done purity reads before lol so uhhhhhh yeah mine probably suck regardless. All in all, I'm not that good at this lol, but trial and error and experience or something like that idk

a) First game and was mafia, so I was like, oh no I'm going to say something wrong and get killed and that's not helpful b) I'm shy c) You and a bunch of the experienced players are scary lol d) I hadn't played as town yet, so I didn't even know what that would look like, and see point A Do you find purity reads less helpful? I wouldn't have considered it at all if I hadn't seen it before as someone's strong pieces of evidence (off of the Shard) I had Archer and RBM paired e/e, and possibly Archer/Weaver. But actually, I think I misread it, and Archer/Weaver should be v/e. Sometimes I don't even remember what I was thinking, now that I re-read what I wrote yesterday LOL.

I'm ngl, that Aeo kill is surprising to me. Not sure specifically what it says, but it makes me think newbie team more. I'm thinking two in Spark/Weaver/RBM now. Can confirm that I'd shoot Kas before Aeo. Tis ok, I sometimes I have the same problem with Kas's mega posts lol. I'm bad with big fancy wording too. Speaking of which... Can you rephase this lol

C2 Analysis before Aet goes to sleep Archer & RBM can be e/e imo. This here > Archer: "I also think my RBM suspicions are being misquoted by them" makes me believe in that world. However: https://www.17thshard.com/forums/topic/196150-qf71-cycle-two-only-mostly-dead/?do=findComment&comment=1735822 https://www.17thshard.com/forums/topic/196150-qf71-cycle-two-only-mostly-dead/?do=findComment&comment=1735886 I suppose would be evidence against > Kas: "In context, Weaver's vote isn't just retaliatory - it supports Archer and pushes Kidpen to the front of a bunch of votes. That's pretty daring for someone who also says:" See, I said I would go back and check. This is me going back and checking Weaver has townie points from me, but, I can see a world of Archer/Weaver as well, I just find Archer/RBM seemingly more possible. > Weaver: "I will say, I see your points and understand them. However, my Kidpen vote was a mix of retaliation and a little bit of suspicion because I didn’t understand why he would vote me. As for me being a hedgy player, I didn’t encourage anyone else to vote Kidpen." I like this from Weaver as well. >Kas: "Likely at most two E in <Spark, Kidpen, Wierdo, Cash>" Not quoting colors but we all know Kidpen is town now. Of Spark, Weirdo, and Cash: Weirdo - > Spark: "So the people left are Aeoryi, Aeternum, Archer, Cash, Kasimir, Bee, TUA, Weaver, Wierdo, and myself. At the moment no one jumps out at me, though I don't think it's Wierdo, Weaver, or Cash. Bee's hard to tell." I did NOT catch this earlier but why not Weirdo, Weaver, or Cash? Esp. because they are on the sus list. Spark also pushed me against RBM, which is ehhhhhhh, and I still kind of read it as defending RBM. Good thing for Spark is that RBM is slowly joining my town list This and this feels genuine tho: https://www.17thshard.com/forums/topic/196150-qf71-cycle-two-only-mostly-dead/?do=findComment&comment=1735817 https://www.17thshard.com/forums/topic/196150-qf71-cycle-two-only-mostly-dead/?do=findComment&comment=1735911 Cash - I like Cash's gameplay so far, ngl. Plus, the salmon cleared Cash already lol >Kas: "However, the choice of target is not consistent with a raw new player. This leads me to consider a more aggregated profile, including Weaver, Cash, TUA, Aeo." TUA remains an enigma to me, lol. I think it's because I see wall of text and my eyes glaze over and I just move on, rip my brain. Aeo's plea https://www.17thshard.com/forums/topic/196150-qf71-cycle-two-only-mostly-dead/?do=findComment&comment=1735980 makes me put her down as town leaning. I am ok with leaving this alone for now. Also, I dislike this line: > Archer: "Being present EOD is inherently suspicious." I'm switching my vote to Archer, just based off of what I was reading. Flipping Archer imo gets me a better look at several others. EDIT I wrote this in my notes, hence the TERRIBLE formatting. Also, I'm mad the links aren't linking nicely. I didn't finish reading through page 7 and 8, but since I was kind of there and it's more recent, I'm less concerned with it. I should've picked up on anything big from there already imo. GOOD NIGHT NOW. Don't you dare murder me while I'm asleep. I will cry, and you will owe me lots of salmon. Edit edit: I really dislike that I can't be around for EoD, and I'm going to have to trust you'll figure out the right vote if something new happens. Blaming Drake for this one (jk you're wonderful)

Cash can you find me the wolfies

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