Truthwatcher Artifabrian

On 3/31/2022 at 5:23 AM, Honorless said:

I prefer to think of Renarin's futuresight as a combination of both of his Surges: Illumination of  Progression, he illuminates how things might progress

Or Progression of Illumination. How the appearance of things will progress (because all of his visions are visual).

 It looks like your function is equivalent to this image. Perhaps your set of functions is just polynomials plus that extra term at the end?

2 hours ago, Wrae said:

Maybe I am remembering it wrong, but doesn't one of the books say something about the Nahel bond being unbreakable after the fifth oath? I would think the "gain" from swearing the ideal has something to do with this.

Also, what would this mean for the spren, when their knight dies? (Seeing as there are no non-herald fifth oath radiants running around, I doubt they gain immortality, but you never know).

I think the radiant or spren can still break the bond, but other people can no longer break it for you (not sure how that works).

I think the 5th oath will grant both that, and more intelligent cousin spren. Since at the 4th ideal you now have cousin spren following you around making shardplate, maybe they are smart enough at the 5th oath to look and and report back. With their spren organizing them, Radiants could have constant reports on everything going on within a large distance. For any order, that would be very beneficial.

I’ll join as a spectator.

Imagine a caste system, but rather than directly inherited castes, you inherit the opposite caste based on your magic power. Those who happen to be in a low magic generation of their family will be a lower caste, but also encouraged to have more children. In very serious countries, there might be laws prohibiting inter-caste marriage, so that magic strength isn’t diluted into half as strong people.

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In WoR, when Kaladin is chasing Szeth through the storm, could he have just Lashed himself to Szeth and followed automatically? I realize he was new to his abilities and may not have thought of it, but is it possible?

Brandon Sanderson

One thing about Lashing that is counter-intuative to people who know physics is that Lashings are usually in a direction, not toward an object. It means that physics wise, it's not actually increasing the gravitational pull of an object--but sending you a direction. I did this because of just this type of question; it made the magic too powerful.

This seems to imply that you would eventually fly off into space.

Interesting question!

On 3/3/2022 at 9:17 AM, Hen said:

"The Locals worshiped the 12 moons as gods, which we can all agree is far more ridiculous then whatever it is you worship"

The phrase “we can all agree” implies an audience of multiple people. Either God doesn’t know their religion, or there are multiple religions represented by the audience.

Leaf lakes? I can definitely imagine certain animals evolving to live up in the leaves, away from the danger of larger creatures. This can then lead to leaf tribes, people who live up there eating those animals. Their problems would be less giant creatures stepping on them, and more giant creatures shaking them and causing leafquakes. Maybe one of your heroes encounters them?

It’s definitely between Aondor, Surgebinding (Truthwatcher of course), Feruchemy, and Awakening. Any of these would easily win over any other option.

I want something that can run without me, because that would allow me to set up whatever I want and let it run, like a computer program. That leaves Awakening and Aondor. Aondor just seems like it has more capability than Awakening, even if it is harder to program.

Illusions are always among the top few of my list, because there’s so much potential to them. Truthwatchers have the most ability with them, but Aondor also has a small amount of capability.

 Ultimately, here are my priorities:

1. Aondor

2. Truthwatcher

3. Awakening

4. Feruchemy

Every hopeful hopping happy hippy hungry hippo who gets too disappointed, writes award-winning Rosharan movies, and is confused at the unending sky of the 17th Sharders (plus some bloodthirsty kittens) is accurately named President President President the President.

For action scene, I agree that the most important would be Kelsier fighting the inquisitor, and Vin realizing that iron and steel are his specialties.

 For character scene, we need the moment in the carriage when Kelsier offers Vin a lot of money, saying that he can’t have crew members who aren’t invested.

F-copper for sure. Depending on what compounding memory does, maybe double copper. Alternatively, A-tin would be good.

On 7/3/2021 at 11:03 AM, Narcoleptic Axolotl said:

Having of brightness. Wasing of thinking the nips of the say ising the making of . . . Ah, storm it. I was thinking we could make threads about normal topics, but talk about it only in High Imperial. This thread is stagnating because the only point of it is to learn and speak High Imperial, but why use a language (or in this case, dialect) if you have nothing to talk about? So start your regular threads; your theories, RPGs, and whatever else, but use High Imperial the whole time, and maybe have a note in english explaining that that particular thread is for practicing.

Ising the nips of thinking the same?

Wasing the liking of this for the thinking. Wasing the wishing of more nips knowing the say. Brighting the thinking of nips notting the knowing of saying the say. To get enough people’s inputs on whatever those topics are, we’d need to include an English translation for whatever we say.

Edit: Or wasing the having of links to the this. Nips wasing the needing of learning the say.

Using progression to grow food is a much better way of using Stormlight for food. Or soulcasting food. Or healing animals. So many options that make it easier to sleep at night.

Maybe you could spike animals to have gold compounding? Train them to use it? I like that idea a lot more than using people.

On 7/31/2021 at 9:22 AM, Halyo_Alex said:

Actually, with the way it intensifies and peaks in the middle, it almost looks like a quantum wavefunction, but sideways. Like a... photon...

I think it looks like they just by coincidence, because I spaced out the surges weird. You could space them out differently and get a very different look.

edit: sorry for the double post.

23 hours ago, Voidus said:

Sorry, been a minute since I've checked here we usually use the other thread for the character and this one just if extended discussion is needed so I don't check it as much. That's a pretty big one, especially since it effectively grants invincibility. I'd probably put it at +50/-10 

Thanks. Just wanted to get these checked so I could balance the rest of the character. I’ll use the other thread in the future.

On 8/1/2021 at 5:52 AM, Inquisitor #5 said:

I like this as it makes several things known to be part of the functioning of Urithiru Sibling-adjacent, Transportation for the Oathgates, Transformation in the shield fabrial, Cohesion in the walls/doors. I'm less sure about how/if Division fits in, but since I'm of the oppinion that the Suppressor fabrial messes with Connection, I could see it maybe being Spiritual Division or somesuch.

That’s true. I didn’t notice that. Division doesn’t necessarily have to fit in, since we’ve already lost symmetry when the left side has more surges than the right side.

Adhesion is Honor’s Surge. Progression is Cultivation’s Surge. Odium does not have a Surge. No other shard has a Surge.

Here is the circle of the surges, with the surges of Honor and Cultivation bolded:

                         Adhesion

               Tension           Gravitation

   Cohesion                                  Division

Transportation                             Abrasion

          Transformation    Progression

                         Illumination

However, if you force Adhesion and Progression to be on opposite sides of the circle, you end up with this:

                                   Adhesion

                       Tension

                                                   Gravitation

        Cohesion

Transportation                                          Division

    Transformation

                                                     Abrasion

                    Illumination

                                 Progression

If you then imagine Cultivation on the bottom and honor at the top, you can see a clear gradient from surges more of honor to surges more of Cultivation. Transportation and Division are the only ones at the same point in that gradient, because they’re in the middle. This also gives a clear gradient (This time with no ties) of Radiant orders. Bondsmiths, Windrunners, Stonewards, Skybreakers, Willshapers, Elsecallers, etc. All the way down to Truthwatchers. Note that the order second closest to Honor bonds Honorspren, and the order second closest to Cultivation bonds Cultivationspren.

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Is there a combination of two Surges that you wouldn't normally see, that'd be fun to write about.

Brandon Sanderson

Oh yeah. It was actually a tough decision to let myself-- make myself put them in the groupings that I did. Because my brain naturally wants to say, "What about this, what about this?"

What would be really interesting, you could do really cool things as a Stoneward with manipulating matter and changing it and stuff, and then burning things into it with-- whichever power that is-- [Division]... I should know. Well, I should know. But I always go look at the list. The Dustbringer power. But I think you could do really interesting sculpture type stuff with that. With the burning, you could add color to the things, to an extent. Like grayscale? But it's not really something that's built into the magic.

Of all surges, why are Cohesion and Division the first pair that Brandon mentions? If the circle of surges was not originally a circle in Brandon’s mind, but a line from Adhesion to Progression, Division and Cohesion end up right next to each other.

 Windrunners get a burst of power whenever they swear an oath. Brandon has said that it’s because of their proximity to Bondsmiths. I always assumed that meant that Stonewards also got the power, but now they might not necessarily; Windrunners are closer to Honor than Stonewards.

On 7/27/2021 at 1:40 AM, Vay said:

Her 4th comes at the end of WoR, the death of her mother, and Radiant (who seems Shallan's way of bypassing the 4th Truth) has Plate in the battle of Thaylen Field.

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Did Shallan manifest her Shardplate in the final battle of Book Three?

Brandon Sanderson

RAFO. Shallan has to be big RAFO. You'll understand why when you read this book [Rhythm of War]. Shallan is an untrustworthy narrator.

I wouldn’t be so sure that that was shardplate. And Radiant is less about bypassing a truth as she is about not having to deal with the way people treat her, as a radiant.

How many points would the following Nightwatcher boon and curse be for a character?

The character is a Dysian Aimian. The boon is that there is no longer a limit on how many hordelings he can have. He is only limited by how many he can feed. When he has too many hordelings for one mind to control, he creates new “minds” out of specialized brain hordelings. The new minds are not self aware, they can only control hordelings with only general commands from the character’s true mind. General commands such as, “gather food” or “explore this area.” When an unexpected event happens, the subservient minds will have extreme trouble adapting until the master mind has time to give a new command. The hordelings that make up the master mind are always hidden so it doesn’t get damaged.

The curse is that the hordelings can no longer communicate instantly across large distances. Commands from the master mind to subservient minds must be given by hordelings buzzing. The subservient minds can only commands individual hordelings by buzzing. I can have long chains of hordelings buzzing at each other in order to pass messages along, but that takes time. Subservient minds have to choose between being close to their hordelings, and having quicker communications; or being farther away and therefore a much less likely target for enemies.

Other characters, when encountering this character’s hordelings, can follow the buzzing sounds all the way back to subservient minds or the master mind, but this character can always sacrifice hordelings by cutting them off from communication.

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I love it.

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Master_Moridin

What is the relationship between blood and the Spiritual Realm? (Since Hemalurgy needs blood to graft the sDNA in a spike into someone else's sDNA)

Brandon Sanderson

The blood being in motion is part of it.

Hemalurgy specifically requires flowing blood. Connection manipulation does not (most likely). So I doubt it will also require bind points.

I don’t remember where, but I’m pretty sure there’s a wob that says that they are good against things like lashings. That implies that it burns away everything, not just what you have powers for.

It’s best when it’s a quote from a book they haven’t read, because then they think you’re more witty than you are.

TPBM is currently juggling oranges and washing the dishes at the same time.

I shall give you the boon of every hour of sleep counting twice toward your wakefulness. Your curse shall be that every such hour shall be filled with nightmares of having every curse listed in this form thus far.

Shall I forbear?

I wish for control over every surge.