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Yeah, that would seem to make the most sense. Just odd then that a leaders total in the Leaderboard from the past 5 days would sum to a higher value than what they had in the Popular Contributors of the week section (See the second picture. Especially when the Leaderboard only shows top 3 placements, it would likely be even higher most times). If it was the 6th or 7th day they could reset at different times due to timezones but given the largest time difference is only 26 hours, 5 days is well within the limits of a week for Experience's total no matter what zones we happened to be in. If it's well within the week how does it manage to count different values? Even odder still that if you manually add rep from the activity feed it doesn't even get anywhere close. It would seem to be magically added that way and magically removed the other way (although perhaps posts show different dates depending on the time zone?? I would think it would want to correct but perhaps it shows the time and date in terms of what time and date it was for your zone? Still though it seems everything would be adjusted then. Additionally, this would only solve the manual adding discrepancy and not the dual leaderboard one...) Either way though just something odd I'd been noticing rather than the looming threat of invasion by piranha-headed, brain-melting, rainbow-colored, llama-birds (although no telling if we haven't been invaded already ) that would require a much larger panic force. Thx for the insight you were able to give

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(Note: The images were taken at 3pm MDT on the 11th but posted later in the day. If you check now you will not see the same values. Both images were taken at the same time though so the logic holds) Ok this is something that has been tickling at me for a bit now but I could never quite nail it down so this week I decided to actually pay attention to it. There's really no major significance (I think) other than an interesting observation. These are the two images I will be using to explain the confuzzle. The numbers are color-coded based on the person so that you can follow them from picture to picture. The rep values are being added together from top to bottom for each person on the top image. The number closest to the bottom in each color is the total for that person (and is also shown on the bottom image). So what I had been half noticing for a bit was that each days winner seemed to be underrepresented in each weeks total. This ranged from just a few reputation for some people to upwards of 65 for Experience this week. In the top image we have a screenshot of each days winner in the "Past Leaders" section. For 4 of the 5 people on the "Popular Contributors" board what I am explaining holds true so they were each given a color. I also included robardin with purple even though they are not included on the board of 5. On every day that that person with a color showed up they have a number value next to their placement that represents their total so far, starting from the top. So for example Experience has 31 on the 10th and 42 on the 9th so the box there shows the sum of those at 73. The sum of each persons values is shown next to their "week" value on the bottom image. As you notice in the bottom image everyone who was given a number has a higher total than their "week" value. Now also remember that this leaderboard only shows the top 3 placements. For every day that they weren't on the leaderboard it is likely they still got a decent amount of reputation. So, realistically, the colored values would be even higher since they are only taking into account top 3 placements (this explains why Condensations totals to 70 on the leaderboard the rest of the days of non top 3 placements make up the difference). So the first thing I thought here was that maybe the "Popular Contributors" section includes the current day and the past 6 unlike the "Past Leaders" section that includes the last 7 days (and as a result not including the current). This seems to solve I Am A Fish's total, Ghanderflaffle's total, and Chasmgoat's total as their value for the 4th would be removed and then rep from days not on the top 3 would likely make up the difference to make it seem their full value was there. However, this still wouldn't solve Experience's lower count as their total does not include any rep from the 4th. It would also seem to make robardin (in purple) the 5th place leader as they had a first and second finish the 5th and 6th and that combined with other days would seem to be higher than Chasmgoat if the value from the 4th was removed. My next thought was that maybe it was totalling it incorrectly. To make it easy I chose to just look at the 7th-9th in the Activity Feed (a collection of all the posts and status' and the like that someone posts all over the Shard so that peeps can see what you are up to!) for Experience and to try to count them manually to see if the rep numbers totalled to the amount for those 3 days (145). I noticed that the "All activity" section sometimes put things out of order so I went by individual sections only counting rep earned from Wednesday to Friday (7th-9th). Status updates - 4 Status replies - 24 Articles - 0 Article Comments - 0 Topics - N/A Posts - 21 Blog Entries - N/A Blog Comments - N/A Images - 27 Image Comments - 0 Events - 0 Event Comments - 0 Now I was just even more confused though. All of this summed to 76. Even adding on a highly generous miscount of 15 that is still nowhere close to the projected 145. So now I had magically appearing rep when adding manually and magically disappearing rep when going from the leaderboard to the "Popular Contributors" section. How is it that there is such a large discrepancy? One thought I had was that rep given to a post from that day at a later point would add on. However, since I had had looked at every post, status, or image that could earn rep from these dates and still come up short that didn't seem to be the case as it would have been included in the total. Another thought was that rep added onto previous posts would be added to that days total instead since it was technically earned in that "day" just on older content. However, it did seem unlikely that people were 1) reading stuff from previous days since conversations tend to stay reasonably current or 2) even if they were, liking that older content enough to give it 69 rep in that 3 day span. And looking at a few other leaders posts and stuff from the day they each won I also came up short. So my other thought was that maybe it was a timezone difference. However, that wouldn't seem to be the case because however shifted my timezone was it would still show all the values on the same day. So, for example, if Experience was 14 hours ahead the "Past Leaders" and "Popular Contributors" section would both be adjusted for the shift, especially since it is past that day. And if that wasn't true were people winning the day and then losing it again because someone retroactively got more than them on that day in a different time zone? Or even retroactively got more than them from a different day? People on here come from all different places and timezones so it would seem difficult to be able to synchronize that but then wouldn't just choosing one timezone and going in 24 hours intervals for that zone (not worrying about the different dates in different places just that the 24 hour period was up) make more sense? It also occured to me that perhaps the "Popular Contributors" went on exactly 7 days from the current moment in a minutes and seconds perspective. However, this still wouldn't account for why Experience's total was so much lower because the previous 7 days, or the current day and the past 6, or not all the values we used were well within that range. So how could it not be as high? So at this point I was super confused. How does the rep count seem to be so much lower when you add it by hand if you are looking through each section that can earn rep? Also why do people get underrepresented in the "Popular Contributors" total by such a large amount when summing up the leaderboards? Is the "Popular Contributors" total more correct and the rest off? Whether you check by hand, check one leaderboard, or check another it should all be adding the same thing so how is it possible that they can be so incredibly different (76, 112, 176)? Where is all of this rep going (or ig even being added depending on which way you look at it)? Again, more of a I kept noticing something wonky and finally figured out what it was than something actually crucial. I thought maybe someone might have an answer as to why all these totals are different or have noticed something similar so I figured it might be worth a post. But it's also quite possible I am completely missing something and am going to end up feeling pretty dumb soon lol. So anyway, if you read through all that, thank you very much, here's a gold star: *gold star of awesomeness*

Yupperdoodle those are the ones lol. Yeah, it totally makes more sense to me as well but that's how the prefer it. I would think it might have to do with how they are detecting spambots (as in an instance of 4 or more posts in a row would pop up a notification so they could take a look) and so they just encourage everyone to put it all in one. I'm sure it also helps keep post count down which is probably useful as well. Yeah, no biggie just something to keep in mind. You get to be the EloquentEli that gives you a 5 paragraph response to whether or not they want pizza and not the PingmasterPaul who's seemingly incapable of texting more than 3 words in a message And ooh yes definitely RAFO! Welcome again!

Welcome to the Shard smartycope! Happy to have you join us! Gigantic Sanderson geeks and the Shard are like one and the same so you have come to the perfect place. So, so sorry to hear you are sick! I sincerely hope it is taking it easy on you and/or you will be better as soon as possible! Super interesting to hear you like audiobooks so much! What makes them better than physically reading the book to you or what about them makes them your passion? It's reminding me of how Dalinar and others have their books read to them lol NO WAY!! Lmao I had never even noticed that @I Am A Fish you're a genius. And @smartycope that's big brain for noticing that lol

Yay, glad you got an explanation! Just had to bring over the right people for the job lol. Thanks you two! Hope the next game is lots of fun as well Whysper! Oh and one last step before you can be officially fully welcomed, someone has to make you feel really good inside by telling you did something wrong ! Lol, no biggie but the mods discourage double posting. If you have something new editing your last post is the best. You can also tap the plus button next to "quote" on multiple people's posts to quote them all at once. Gargantuan posts ftw!

Oof yeah you have a little anti-spam regulation on you when you first join. Should be gone soon tho! Lol tiny font can often get lost in the message. Glad you found the yoke tho much gooders Ah yeah totally! A core feature of all of Brandon's work is most definitely the expansive worldbuilding and detailed magic systems. And if you liked that about Mistborn you are gonna love SA! Oh and totally lol I don't know too much about Sanderson Elimination but I'll ping a few people who do @Experience + @Matrim's Dice. I'm sure they can give a much more comprehensive explanation if you don't already get one from someone else!

Hello Whysper I hope you can tell by this really tiny font here that I'm trying to whisper and keep it really quiet so I can fit with the name... Lol, Welcome to the Shard! So happy to have you here! If you're a fan of Sanderson you have definitely came to the right place! As for The Way of Kings, man you are in for a ride! Hope you enjoy that series to the utmost degree (and maybe even are caught up in time for RoW???). If you are all through with the Mistborn series I'm sure you would enjoy looking through that section of the forum and chatting it up. Would wait on entering any Stormlight Archive sections until you catch up there tho (unless you love spoilers, you do you!) What aspect of either series makes it your favorite? Ooh and I'm sure someone will be by to let you know all about Sanderson Elimination soonish! The most I can give you is that yes it exists and yes it is based off of Forum Mafia. Also a link to the Q & A section for it . Welcome again to the Shard!

The future:

sry is talls (just in case electrical outlets and water don't mix)

Hedge-cone Office boi Bby hog Maximum cuteness activated!

Ahhh yeah the end of Steelheart comes together so perfectly. No spoilers here but yeah I def see what you mean good choice! And yeah all of the non-cosmere books carry a different feel with them totally. Especially the Alcatraz series (which I highly recommend if you haven't gotten to those). In fact those are so unique the first time I read it I actually had to turn back to the front of the book to see if I was reading the same author lol. That's kinda what makes Brandon's work all the more impressive really the way he can write really well with different stories, tones, age groups, and concepts. And man if things brimming with lore and intriguing detail are your thing it sure is a good you found the Cosmere!

“Never tell me the odds!”

No worries that's what the Welcome Crew is here for! Nothing makes you feel more welcome than someone telling you did something wrong and should be doing it differently, right? And yes ofc, the norm... might even throw in some randomly preventing nuclear disaster while you're at it

“I’ll never turn to the dark side. You’ve failed, your highness. I am a Jedi, like my father before me.”

Absolutely!! I mean why find out about favorite character when you can find out about weaponizing cats with magic systems! That is genius right there

"Who's scruffy looking?!?" *sigh* well yes I did have to give the rep... it's just *sighs again in sigh*

Ah, welcome, welcome! So glad you finally decided to join us... (@Shard of Reading I applaud you good sir) So you are saying that you were worried that Hood was taken and that would mean HoidWasTaken was taken but you didn't know if HoidWasTaken and you wanted to take HoidWasTaken so you made sure HoidWasTaken wasn't taken so you could take HoidWasTaken... right? Lol, welcome to the Shard! Thank you very much for my morning mind bender exactly what I needed to get the 'ol electronics- I mean totally normal human components (no cyborg's around here) up and running for the day. What would you wish for to happen with your near infinite luck? (Also try not to double post. You can edit your last one if you have new ideas !)

... what's up? What's new? How's everything? How's life? Long time no see. Good afternoon. How have you been? Pleasure to meet you. How do you do? Yo! Howdy! Alright mate?- Ohhhh wait this isn't just a greeting list . Whazzup Tyler! So glad you cold join us! Also SO glad you still exist, transferring consciousness across species is a little difficult, was getting a bit worried there- er... uh... I mean happy you exist in general normal terms like totally normal people... What a beautiful day out isn't it? And this paint color right here... wow.. uh... I'm just gonna go over here.... *flees out the door* Lol, awesome you are just starting out on WoK! You are in for an amazing ride with the Stormlight Archive! Would stay out of any book specific topics until you are done to avoid spoilers as Ghanderflaffle said but Games and General Discussion should be spoiler free. Welcome to the Shard!

I'm loving these questions lol. Very excited to see the answer

I think you get originality points anyway!! Mixing it up with the 'ol "a" in the middle here and throwing out the "e" tricky, tricky Lol, welcome to the Shard! So happy you are here to join us and hope you find many amazing topics to jump into! What was the first book in the Cosmere that you read and do you wish you had started elsewhere? Also, if you have any questions feel free to reach out to any one of us, everyone here is super friendly and amazing!

I would hope more on the flattered side ! The intro message was too perfect to miss out on the opportunity but I had to be sure to bring the true legend along to see

Wow yknow no one has ever thought of it like that, how true! Just being able to have a bond would be amazing. Although yes being able to choose would be even cooler. What a beautiful way of putting it! Love your title too btw lol