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Or he was/is saving it to give to someone. Interesting to think that Hoid is out there somewhere with some Lerasium in his pocket. Waiting for the right person to turn into a mistborn.

Ah, I see. But he did eat it. Does that mean he's now a Mistborn?

Is this referring to inquisitors? I'm not remembering any mentions between hemalurgy and damage to one's soul. Both the person receiving the spike AND the person being spike? (The person being pike is presumably dead...) The morality of hemalurgy is much shadier if you are damaging the person's soul, even if consent has been given.

Well, I'm nearly caught up. I'm at Szeth's second interlude. His interlude chapters have been a struggle for me. He is just such a pitiful character. And of all Sanderson characters, I find him to be one of the hardest for me to believe. In this book anyways. I'm a big Adolin fan (how do y'all pronounce his name, anyway? ). I really love any interaction between him and Dalinar. Ado is just so darn earnest and good, and loves his daddy and brother. His POV is just wonderful to read. But, man, he is so stupid (except when it comes to soldiering). Like anytime Dalinar mentions wanting to make the world better for common people, his brain just can't handle the idea. Also, I'm typically not a big fan of fight scenes, but I find any part with him and a sword to be riveting. Kaladin's storyline is so amazing in this book. I had forgotten so much that happens, so that some parts are like reading for the first time. I'm loving his relationship with Syl more that I remembered (maybe because I know where it's going). When he's at his lowest, and she is his only companion, there are some really emotionally powerful scenes. I love the scene where he save 3 members of bridge four, even though everyone else is reigned to letting them die. I enjoy how we get to see the contrasting Father-Son relationships of Dalinar/Adolin as well as Lirin/Kaladin. Random comments: Men can't read!!! I forgot that. It's SO ridiculous, but makes for some great plot twists (like Szeth writing words with Galivar's blood, Dalinar being shock that his brother could read/write). They really want to keep men and women very separate on Roshar. I wonder if we'll get more insight into that, and how women have to cover their safe hand. I love Teft and Rock so much! Oh how I hate Sadeas!

Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but doesn't he eat some Lerasium right before this?

MIstborn Era 2 Spoilers below. Of the three metallic arts, I'm most intrigued by Hemalurgy. It's so formidable (for lack of a better word), but also really horrific, and I love that contrast. Mistborn "bad guys" tend to use it, and it often seems inherently disgusting or evil (think Inquisitors and Koloss). But, as counterpoint, it's fundamental to creating Kandra. So, I'm wondering what might be some "good" (morally OK) uses of Hemalurgy? Or at least, when might it NOT be completely morally reprehensible? Ways it could benefit society? Part of my reason for asking is that we know the Set are into Hemalurgy. Maybe also the Kandra and the Terris? Allik's people (the Southerners) presumably use it to make medallions. Maybe...the Set are using it in an ethical manor for the benefit of civilization!? (I doubt this, since they seem pretty terrible all around...but perhaps they see it this way?) A couple examples: 1. If you have a way to spike someone without killing them, AND with informed consent of the person being spiked, that might be OK if your intentions are good (like using the spiked powers to help defend your world against an invading entity/god). 2. This one is bit more out there: if a child (or someone unable to give consent), had an ability inherently dangerous to themselves or others--like if there was a twinborn with an dangerous resonance (completely hypothetical)--would a person be justified in spiking that individual to remove one of the abilities, to protect the child or those around him/her?

How do you take your coffee?

Do you wear glasses? Do you have houseplants, and if so, do you forget to water them?

Ha, good call! Can't believe I forgot that.

Would you get a resonance with two Allomantic abilities? I had thought it stemmed from combining an Allomantic one with a Feruchemical one. In HoA I always wondered how he manifested his pewter abilities.

You mean the Set is doing this, right? Or did you mean the Terris? (or both if they are working together!). I've also wondered what sort of "research" the Kandra are up to. VenDell mentions that they don't support hemalurgy, but he also suggest that they are still activity experimenting/researching Identity and Investiture. I enjoy imagining what the Kanda research lab might be like...

Re Wayne hearing voices: There’s a mention of him hearing voices in SoS (he mentions it after Wax and Harmony converse in the carriage). Yes, somewhat jokingly, but I don't think that means it didn't happen. I thought there was a mention in BoM, but I can't dig it up. Somewhat related, after he kills the dad in the Roughs, he continues to hear gunshots for a long time coming from the well where he ditched his gun. That's different than hearing voices, but it struck me as strange. (Actually, I've always though there was something more going on with his reaction to guns that PTSD). Something else that makes me wonder about Harmony's involvement with Wayne, before Wax gun-spikes Bleeder/Paalm, she says this: “Still don’t know what to do about Wayne. Couldn’t bring myself to kill him, poor fool. He followed you here, to help you in the city. For that I love him. But he’s still Harmony’s, and so he’s probably better dead than the way he is now.” How exactly is he Harmony’s? He’s Harmony’s what? Servant? Follower? (he’s not religious so that seems unlikely). Actually, when reading that first I thought: Wayne’s a Kandra! Since Harmony sends kandra to do his bidding. He sent Lessie to Wax, perhaps he sent Wayne also. But Kandra can’t be metalborn…unless through hemalurgy, like Bleeder/Palm. He has no visible spikes (at least on his chest or head), but kandra can internalize spikes, so they could be hidden. I do think Wayne as kandra is an interesting idea, HOWEVER, I feel like I’ve seen WoB confirming he’s not kandra. Anyone familiar with this? Anyways, I digress. I don’t really think Wayne's a kanda, BUT I do think Harmony (or someone) once tried to (or still does) manipulate Wayne. I think a powerful bloodmaker twinborn with (very close) ties to Wax is too tempting of a target for someone not to be trying to influence him. It would be funny if Harmony tried to mold him like he does with Wax, by Wayne was just too crazy to make it worth the effort.

Re Wayne hearing voices: There’s a mention of him hearing voices in SoS (he mentions it after Wax and Harmony converse in the carriage). Yes, somewhat jokingly, but I don't think that means it didn't happen. I thought there was a mention in BoM, but I can't dig it up. Somewhat related, after he kills the dad in the Roughs, he continues to hear gunshots for a long time coming from the well where he ditched his gun. That's different than hearing voices, but it struck me as strange. (Actually, I've always though there was something more going on with his reaction to guns that PTSD). Something else that makes me wonder about Harmony's involvement with Wayne, before Wax gun-spikes Bleeder/Paalm, she says this: “Still don’t know what to do about Wayne. Couldn’t bring myself to kill him, poor fool. He followed you here, to help you in the city. For that I love him. But he’s still Harmony’s, and so he’s probably better dead than the way he is now.” How exactly is he Harmony’s? He’s Harmony’s what? Servant? Follower? (he’s not religious so that seems unlikely). Actually, when reading that first I thought: Wayne’s a Kandra! Since Harmony sends kandra to do his bidding. He sent Lessie to Wax, perhaps he sent Wayne also. But Kandra can’t be metalborn…unless through hemalurgy, like Bleeder/Palm. He has no visible spikes (at least on his chest or head), but kandra can internalize spikes, so they could be hidden. I do think Wayne as kandra is an interesting idea, HOWEVER, I feel like I’ve seen WoB confirming he’s not kandra. Anyone familiar with this? Anyways, I digress. I don’t really think Wayne's a kanda, BUT I do think Harmony (or someone) once tried to (or still does) manipulate Wayne. I think a powerful bloodmaker twinborn with (very close) ties to Wax is too tempting of a target for someone not to be trying to influence him. It would be funny if Harmony tried to mold him like he does with Wax, by Wayne was just too crazy to make it worth the effort.

Well, that all makes a lot of sense. I completely agree....and yet, I'm still suspicious. A lot of emphasis has been placed on the Village. Seems like a situation primed for a Sanderson plot twist. I could see that happening. I wonder if Telsin would have been involved with that. We know she was friends with feruchimsts--Idashwy (steelrunner) and Forch. That also is an interesting idea, and somewhat related to different Wayne related theory I've been working on. We also know the Set is interested in and able to make Gold/Healing spikes, so that could be a (albeit tenuous) connection between the Set and the Village.

Thanks! I’m excited! I’m thinking I should be able to catch up pretty quick.

Hey there! I'm also reading Elantris. Since you mention reading Alloy of Law, have you already read the Era 1 Mistborn trilogy?

My head is full of Crazy Era 2 Theories, and I'd love to hear your opinions regarding the Village and how they relate to the story and other major players. What, if anything, are those Village Terrispeople hiding? Am I wrong in assuming Wax grandmother is up to something? Wax saves a kid from being tortured/killed by Torch, and his Grandma is upset with him about that? They should be giving him a medal! And why did that constable give her bullet of all things!? (my theory is the constable meant for the bullet to fall into the hands of Wax...but that's another issue) Anyone think they are in cahoots with the Set? A terriswoman attacks Wayne in BoM when they are at the party in New Seran. Wax's sis, Telsin, fit right in in the Village. But....on the other-hand, Suit/Edward seemed to have disdain for them. And why do they supposedly like Wayne!? That's the most suspicious piece of all What do you think?

Wow Ok. This is crazy and confusing. I need time to wrap my head around it....but seems like that only works if your Allomantic and Feruchemical metals are the same, yes? So, Miles could potentially do this cause he's double-gold (making him super valuable as a healing spike/medalion maker--he's definitely dead right?) But, Wayne, in theory could NOT be spiked to steal his F-gold and survive because he could NOT Allomantically burn gold to regenerate. Wayne could, however, be spiked to steal his A-Bendalloy abilities, and survive with his F-gold intact, yes. With a twinborn, would the ability that is being "taken" depend on the location on the body that is spiked? Would you by default need two spikes?

Seriously! That's the most horrible thing i can imagine.

Or an effect or compounding (which I can't quite wrap my head around)? Or could it have been his resonance? Can metalminds be embedded within the body? I feel like that happened to Sazed, maybe, in WoA? But why wouldn't everyone just do that? Seems safer than having a bracelet that can be removed if you're captured. Maybe it only works with certain metals. Oh! random idea: wouldn't the Set have wanted to spike Miles to steal his extra-super healing power? We know they are already interested in Hemalurgy at that point, and healing has to be one of the most desirable abilities. Surely they couldn't resist. (Could they have used hemalurgic bullets to kill him? ) AND in BoM, that New Seran politician lady (Kelesina) had super-powered-up gold healing bracers. Bet they got that power from Miles!

I very much want to join in on this Stormlight marathon. I did re-reads of WoK and WoR before Oathbreaker came out, which doesn't seem all that long ago....but I remember NOTHING! But I can't find my WoK paperback (...may have fell apart...), so I'm gonna try to snag an ebook. I've got some catching up to do! What chapter are you on?

Sounds exhausting! Are you hanging out on Scadrial, these days?

I am so intrigued by this idea of resonance! Should the resonance "abitility" make sense a combination of the individual allomantic and feruchemical powers? If so, then Wax's amazing marksmanship seems strange as a resonance skill, since it seems unrelated to him being able to feruchemically manipulate his weight. I can't even imagine what Wayne's resonance could be, stemming from combining Bloodmaking and Sliding (time-bubbles). Hope we find out in the Lost Metal! Yes please, on the Stormlight spoiler. Was Miles spiked? I don't have a copy of AoL, but I'm not remembering this... Was it retrieved after he was shot? Was it the same material as Bleeder/Paalms spike? Spook was spiked...is the "strong connection" you mention referring to Kelsier? Part of my interest in this issue of twinborns comes from wondering why exactly Harmony is so invested in Wax. I don't think this has really been addressed. It's like Vin and Ruin (and Preservation). She was chosen as a child. I don't think we know why Perservation "chose" her, but Ruin chose her because she was mistborn (powerful!) and had a seeker sister, meaning she could be spiked (super powerful!). At least that how I'm remembering it, correct me if I'm wrong. We have a parallel situation with Wax. Harmony "chose" Wax long ago, perhaps as a child, and has been manipulating/guiding him for a long time. Did he just pick him because he was twinborn, and hence a powerful person to have on his "team"?

Tough choice between coinshot and pewterarm. I think flying would be cool, but a bit to dangerous for me. So I'll go with Pewter. Making time bubbles would also be amazing, but bendalloy to just too expensive .