JPGU

One thought that I'm most likely wrong about but I can't get out of my head and I won't give up until it's confirmed that I'm 100% wrong is that Star is related to Hoid, as soon as it was mentioned that she has white hair and I remembered that Brandon said that hoid has dated a dragon was the first thing that came to my mind

That mention you made of Taravangian reminded me of the following WoB that may be interesting for this topic:

The fact that Khriss mentions an ocean in which Foil is studying how to control the Aethers and later in the chronology we see Xixis living in an ocean where he studies the Aethers and shows he can control them seems to me to be a clear allusion to Lumar being the place where Foil/Xixis is at the moment that ars arcanum is written. Secondly, while it is true that Xixis without control of the Aethers SHOULD not be able to make his palace Khriss specifically says "Foil, deep within his ocean" that to me sounds like he is already installed in Lumar probably not in the same way that we see in Tress but it is on the planet. But what I wanted to discuss is not how or when Xixis learned to master the Aethers but rather if the Iriali leave Lumar not long after Xixis's arrival and he was already there by the time of Rhythm of war then those iriali cannot be the same as those in Roshar. I'm also not very sure about the idea that there are several Iriali groups but it is the only conclusion I could come to, although your idea that Xixis could be studying the Aethers on another planet before Lumar seems to me to be able to answer my doubts. It doesn't quite add up to me because of the issue I mentioned before, which sounds too similar to Lumar in the ars arcanum, but it does seem like a good answer to me. Regarding the supposed Iriali of Scadrial, if they really are, it doesn't seem to me that they are a third group because those do fit with the chronology if this is their next land after Roshar. Yes, you're right about that, I just wanted to talk about this and see what conclusions other people came to.

With what we know so far about the Iriali (everything published but without advances) it seems to me that either the chronology does not fit in any way or there is more than one group of Iriali in the cosmere and I came to this conclusion because of the group in lumar and its apparent relationship with xixis/foil. First we know that by the time Tress occurs the Iriali had been gone approximately 300 years ago and that it has some connection with the arrival of Xixis to the planet, the problem with this is that in the ars arcanum of rhythm of war Khriss mentions that the Navani's recent discoveries about anti-investiture can help Foil's research to control the Aether's in their sea and we know that Foil is Xixis, so by the time of SA4 and SA5 Xixis is already in Lumar, therefore the Iriali should have left of the planet recently or about to do so but at the same time they are in Roshar. So I put this post to say that I believe that the Iriali in Lumar and the Iriali in Roshar are not the same, I would like to see if anyone knows of anything that refutes this theory because I have been thinking about it for a while and I can't think of anything.

@Philomath were can i see that reading of SA5?

@GoWibble I'm new in 17thshard and I don't know how to change the font, so that's a coincidence, but a really funny coincidence

If moash survive to stormlight 5, he will be murdered by gavinor in the future

Could someone tell me what are the differences between the prose version and the comic version of White Sand?