Light In the Darkness

To support the idea that nicrosil must have variable storing, consider two things. 1. Other feruchemical attributes, except copper, all store at varying strengths; you don't shunt all of your weight into a metalmind, you store x percent. 2. Allomancy in particular has variable strength. Elend was the strongest mistborn anyone had seen for generations, and allomancy has gotten weaker over time. So, it makes sense that if you were storing the ability to burn metals, you could store at a certain strength. However, when storing feruchemical attributes, it gets more complicated. Has feruchemy gotten weaker over time? How? I saw the topic about making a black hole with Feruchemical weight; maybe a limiting factor on feruchemy is how fast your taping builds up to your target or something? That would give a check on drawing it all out in a planck time, and a mechanism by which you are storing a variable amount of feruchemical ability, and a mechanism for feruchemical potency increasing/decreasing. Thoughts?

Perhaps when Honor died and left his cognitive shadow with the Stormfather, his perpendicularity spread out along the stormfront or whatever secondary front that infuses spheres. The lower concentration would make it hard to use, even without the fact that there are 3 or 4 separate highstorms traveling Roshar and the location inconsistency.

But if it was open during highstorms, it would probably leave a path of weirdness or extra special stuff. That would be like dripping out the well of ascension along a path over the continent; weird stuff would probably happen. Unless it is the highstorm; like, the pool is the clouds. That would explain why crem exists, a little bit.

Interesting points about the knife. Perhaps it was acting as a hemalurgic spike? The red cloud around Scadrial indicates co-opted or corrupted investiture, and our leading candidates for it are Odium, who has a vendetta but is scared of Sazed because he holds two very powerful shards, and Autonomy, who has (I think) been known to help Odium in the past and to whom the name Trell is connected, so it’s perfectly possible that odium knows about hemalurgy. In addition, Moash wouldn’t necessarily need to have intent; (Spoiler for Hero of Ages) It was Ruin’s intent that created the spike, not the other person. In addition, with the god metal and the gemstone, it might not have mattered as much if Moash hit the right bond point, but Odium could have guided that a bit if necessary. As for Odium not understanding Dalinar’s actions, that is also partially Cultivation’s interference too. She knew exactly how to trim his memories to make sure he grew from the pain, which might be a bit of a foreign concept to Odium.

I don't know which one I would be. According to that test , I would be a Skybreaker. That seems about right, though I think I'm a bit more empathetic than most of them. The flying part certainly appeals to me; the feel of doing it would be marvelous.

Nicrosil is the metal that has bothered me most since reading Bands of Mourning. This stems from 2 problems. The first is how on earth unsealed metalminds happen, because an unkeyed nicrosil metalmind, which is somewhat more plausible, would still need the user to already have Feruchemical Nicrosil. However, after reading up on the distinction, I found that the unsealed ones weren't just unkeyed nicrosil minds, they were completely different. It still bothers me, but I am now confident it will be explained in the books. The second is much more serious: How do you store your ability to store your ability to store? No, I didn't accidentally repeat that. That is exactly what I meant. So far, we have seen Nicrosil only store discreet investiture types, like the ability to use A- or F-brass, iron, copper, etc. However, how are you storing your ability to use F-nicrosil? The others are simplly; while filling the nicrosil mind, you can't do the other thing. It's like closing a pipe so you can open it wider later. But with your ability to use Nicrosil, you are storing your ability to close the pipe. If you are storing at one hundred percent, then you can't store at all. If you are storing half of your ability, does that mean you can store only half as much? in that case, you would only ever be able to store half at a time, never more, because if you are only half as good at tapping/storing Investiture, then your maximum strength of storing while storing is half of your normal strength of storing, so you can only store half of what you normally could, so you can only ever store half. Does that make sense, and is there something I'm missing or got wrong? If anyone else has a problem with the metal, feel free to ask about that too.

I think this phenomena has more to do with the person's cognitive aspect. For the dead koloss, the spiked on bits didn't just fall off. They just still perceived themselves as human, so in the Cognitive realm, they appeared as a human. The Kandra started as mistwraiths, so they started with a soul; the spikes just augmented it. So they might retain some of their cognicience in the cognitive realm, even if the spikes did fall off. since their perceptions are allowed by the spike though, they might just be left as a mistwraith in the cognitive realm. A bit from brandon about how spikes affect the cognitive realm stay after someone dies.

Thank you guys! I'm not sure what my favorite cosmere book would be; I like most of them about the same, which is to say, a lot.

Hello fellow Sharders! I just joined a couple days ago, and hadn't gotten around to posting anything here yet. I've been a fan of Sanderson for a while, and I'm pretty sure I have read the entire published Cosmere. I have wanted to join here for a while now, because of some irritating questions about Nicrosil ferrings in particular, and general theorizing.

We have heard it mentioned by Khriss that a set of 16 metals would be created per alloying god metals with the allomantic metals. So the other atium alloys wouldn't be random; they would be the metals we know plus atium. Atium-electrum does seem rather pointless though; it would probably be burnable, but just provide a similar effect to atium alone. Atium-Cadmium seems like an interesting combo though; perhaps burning it slows down your aging and general speed, if atium alloys really do swap the internal-external axis of metals. Atium-Bendalloy might be similar to Feruchemical speed, while also speeding up aging.

True. I'm looking forward to how it is explored in later boooks.

I don't think it was Leras who chose Vin; I think it was just the power seeking a new vessel. Having already held the power once doesn't seem to have much bearing on who the new vessel would be; Vin hadn't held the power at the Well when she first drew on the mists, and I'm pretty sure she could have ascended sooner if Kelsier hadn't encouraged her to keep wearing her earing. However, that depends on whether Leras needed to be completely dead first; also, if she had ascended earlier, it could have been disastrous, since she could have been corrupted by her Intent by the time she had the motivation and abandon to kill Ruin, and Sazed wouldn't have been Connected to both enough to become Harmony.

I'd also like to point out that if you did break through to the Spiritual Realm, then you would probably be blinded by the people. The people are the focus of the SR, so while, since everything has a soul there, you might be able to see the stock market reports, it would be very very hard. And do to the Future's uncertain nature, you probably would only know about a crash or spike a couple of minutes in advance. The Fortune attribute that Feruchemists store seems a more likely candidate for the kind of havoc that was asked about at the top of the thread.

Wasing the wishing of the joining of learning. Seeming of cool, notting without the wasing of needing the using. Wishing the hoping for learning of next.

It seems to me that what would happen is that the SDNA would be permanently nailed into place, with or without a spike. So, if you burned a spike that granted feruchemical steel when it spiked someone, you would now be a steel ferring, permanently. This might mean it could get passed down, like normal allomancy and feruchemy can. It might also mean that you could use hemalurgy without opening up to Harmony's control, depending on how much damage to your spiritweb the splicing causes. Terrifying Idea: 1. Spike a Nicrosil Ferring and a Nicrosil Misting. 2. Grind both spikes into very small pieces. every piece will have some of the charge, but it should be fairly evenly distributed, so each charge will be very small. 3. Acquire an Unsealed Metalmind to allow people to burn electrum (for the misting spike) and bendalloy (for the Ferring spike). 4. Distribute the spike dust to a small army and have each one burn it in turn via the metalmind. Your army can now compound investiture. 5. Use a similar process to give desired powers en masse. Because they can compound their actual ability to burn metals via the nicrosil (which is how that seems like it should work; I might be wrong), it doesn't matter how small the original hemalurgic charges were; you would have allomancers as strong as the Lord Ruler. This could be done without the splicing, possibly, but it would be much less efficient; you might be limited to only a few individuals like this being created for each pair of nicrosil metalborn killed. Obviously, if I'm interpreting "splicing" or Nicrosil Compounding wrong then this is caput; but it is a scary implication.