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Okay... I can work with that, I guess If Drake shoots me because I waited until 2.5 hours to rollover to claim and he doesn't see it then that's on me. Otherwise I need to go eat so here we go.
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... so you're saying it works both ways?
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We'd definitely deal with it better than the average Village, but it still feels too strong to deal with. ... pretty afraid, yeah. Hence the claim but if worst comes to worst, Pinchitters can still check on me and that'll hopefully be valuable enough. I'm pretty sure they could, yeah. But not in perpetuity. I... don't think I believe that. Vote manip has been incredibly weak so far. ... so Aman, what do you think of my role?
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Okay stopping the Edit chain If I was Elim, killing off the Terminal Seekers, Goalkeepers, and Pinchhitters would be a loss condition for the Village. It doesn't matter if the rest of the Village knew what I was, they still wouldn't be able to kill me. And the Village needs to kill all Eliminators in order to win. We've got a lot of potential kill power, yeah, but not infinite. If somehow E!Thread Master got rid of it all, then they'd just win after 10 cycles of surviving exes. Maybe there is a mechanic to ensure roles don't die out, but the thing is I am Village, and haven't heard of anything like that. Also, E!Me would definitely not claim this and would just let votes keep sliding away from me, but that's IKYK territory anyway. Idk how afraid of Drake E!Me would be.
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Bring it on But we are kinda in the same boat. Village roles, but there's only one RandBy to go around and making sure we don't mess up the D3-8 is best. I think I know who it is, but I could be entirely wrong. You I'm not sure. You said Day Action but not Vote Manip and also TC. I'd have to look to find more. I also have another role that could come in handy, that if people were paying really really close attention they'd see, otherwise just hinted at. Thread Master clears me better though.
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So, what do we got? Near-Confirmed (Good): Drake, TKN Drake is our Coinshot, and killed Tani and Xino. Tani has been openwolfing, and while we don't particularly have a reason to E-read Xino, we don' particularly have a reason to V-read him either. But the N1 Tani kill is enough to say Drake is Village. TKN was the N2 Elim Kill, and was decently village read enough to make sense as one. Especially if Tani was Elim, doesn't make sense for Elims to kill one of their own N2 and then spend their vote D3. And here's the thing - if TKN is Elim, then that's one more Elim we've already taken care of. Almost-Near-Confirmed (Good-): Matrim Matrim has been scanned as Village by an Unknown PM Spider (UPS). I don't clear him as much as the other scannees, because the other ones have public clearers and it seems like it was UPS's idea to scan Mat specifically. I do think I know who UPS is, but that's both good and bad, because Elims could probably figure it out and secretly Troll. We also don't know what Mat is, which leaves the chance of surprise roles a bit more. But for now, it's good enough. (Also E!Mat and E!Steel would be too convenient for V!Me for me to feel great about heavily tinfoiling on either right now.) Together Forever (Good-?): Archer, TJ TJ is a Wallposter (?) and Roleblocker, and has been backed up by Archer to have visited Mat N2 (and thus not Aman). Archer is a PM Spider, and backed up that TJ visited Mat N2. Thus tying these two together. Two Elim Roleblockers would be interesting, and even possible, but the other possibility is these two are our Elims. I don't really think that's the case, but it's possible. Otherwise I don't have a solid read on either of these - they both seem Village enough, but I've been focusing on actions and roles more than reads. Pinchhitter (Sus-?): Steeldancer Steeldancer I... don't know what to do with. I'm still confused why he didn't try to use Lynchbait, but more things make sense from inactivity or role hiding than malice. E!Steel could have just claimed to have grabbed Stab Voter and then was waiting to see if Striker actually revealed it or not. Or, not have claimed at all. Burning Light (Sus): Shining Silhouette Shining Silhouette I think I read the most Elim. They've been managing to get into second place in my and other's PoEs significantly, and have wiggled out of a lot of pressure even when that pressure is coming from more confirmed players. Also, no role. I Am The Ashbringer: Ashbringer Ashbringer is me, and I think it's time to come clean. I've been playing this quite deliberately, because for the first few turns I was both actively trying to figure out the game and passively trying to draw a misexe. Only Mat or Shining really pushed me early though, and then it was a few of the confirmed (Wizard). I was also trying to do my traditional balance of trying to avoid both the Elim NK and the Vigilante NK, which is why I talked to Stick a bit more than others especially N2. I was playing a bit like a Thug, trying to keep NKs away as long as possible while not really being scared of the Removal. Well, it's close, because as far as I can remember I've never been a Thug. And I'm still not this time. I am a Thread Master, which makes me immune to being executed. And there is no chance that with this game that role goes to an Eliminator.
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For reference, Ash, Archer, and Drake were on Steel from before Orlok revealed, and Mat, TJ, and Shining were on Walin from before Orlok revealed. Idk if that info was going around in PMs before it was sent in thread, but only TKN and Steel actually added themselves to the tie group. A side note on Bookwyrm - unless the Elims did have knowledge of Xino's Multiquoter role, I don't know why E!Bookwyrm would actually target Orlok. Unless Xino was evil. But if Xino was evil, we're in a decent spot anyway. Edit: I have another post but don't want to double post it someone please post >>
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Do I do this now… @Matrim's Dice, is your role a TM?
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Well, that’s promising. Shining and one of Archer/TJ? Idk I’ll look at it tomorrow. (Yes I know I’m in that pool too) Other games definitely haven’t had this. It’s the longest game on record already and we’re not even done with C3. Maybe that’s because no one really dies, or because all the blackout game solving has to happen in the thread, or limited PMs… I’m honestly not entirely sure. Honestly I’m considering asking @Random Bystander to scan me as well, as that might shed some light on things. Well, not exactly that. And it’s not up to me is it.
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I kinda want a PM with Mat. But I wouldn’t say no to joining in a web or just doing my traditional staying out of it. Also is TJ’s role actually Wallposter? I made a fake role for Kas named Wallposter >>
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@Kasimir the Player list is still Stick and not Drake.
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It worked, right? We’ll see what Orlok gets. TKN, you still with us?
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Archer we need the tie though I think I know, and kinda agree. Mat is interesting. Edit: oh good, just a double post
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What’s your read of your unknown Spider, Aman? They’re also kinda running out of claim space.
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Same here now, because Tie Guy actually seems like a good role to surprise via Pinchhitter. But before then… yeah not so much.
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There wasn’t a whole lot seperating Dannex from Biplet D2, imo. Besides the obvious that people followed me onto Dannex and not Aman onto Bip.
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Yes, still on Steel... I'll try to find another color if I do that again. Which I probably won't, idk we'll see. What if I want to use my role though? Eh... sure. Steeldancer Wizard Wizard Steeldancer (I'm not 100% sure if that breaks Stab Voter, but that's because I'm not one )
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Oh yeah that's the other A-name! ALIGNMENTS: ROLES: RETURN OF DAY ONE:
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How many ways of tie do we want to go for?
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See, I’m getting nervous of Archer as the non-scanned, non-claimed, widely V-read, name-starting-with-A bucket. Hmm, who else is in that bucket…
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… I can’t tell if this is sarcastic or not.
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Think this is a part of it: Although Shining and Aman switched before. Can't tell if that's Aman being Aman and having prescience or just PMs, or just pushing Walin.
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Alright then. If we're going for a mass clear tie via Orlok, I'd be partial for getting a third player up there. But there is a decent chance some things disrupt other things. And we'd need a bit more votes. 4 with 4 votes each would be great. I do have some reason to believe pulling that off will be tricky, though.
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To clarify, you shot Xino instead? Or did something else happen. Also ties Orlok what
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Who would win, the Ultimate Cosmere free for all.
Ashbringer replied to Frustration's topic in Cosmere Discussion
We're also presumably all at the same skill level. Anyone with the same powers as someone else is as good as someone else. So while Chromium Compounding can be a powerful asset, every Fullborn can also do it.
