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Mid-Range Game 64: Shades of Crimson
Ashbringer replied to Szeth Pancakes's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I mean any two-man team that doesn't have Aman in it is probably a loss here. TKN and Mat would hurt less. But I trust TJ a bit more than Mat as well. For All Time!- 275 replies
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Mid-Range Game 64: Shades of Crimson
Ashbringer replied to Szeth Pancakes's topic in Sanderson Elimination
JNV was my plan too. Bah. If TJ's an Elim, he's probably lying about there being a second Fighter, but he probably is the Fighter. If he's solo because Devo/Wonko were elims that's fine, if he's not solo that's a pretty big issue because then the Elims get 2 kills. E!Aman E!TJ leaves it a 1v1 next turn which is a tie, at best. But, E!TJ could have killed me. It would be clear to the Village that that had happened, but then it's a 2v2 and E!Aman probably suspected I had the Dawnshard for a while. I don't think E!TJ then. If Mat's an Elim... E!Fighter!Mat would know that there's V!Fighter somewhere. Maybe E!Fighter!Mat also hit TKN, not sure if that would kill them or not. E!Roleless!Mat (or some other role)... I don't know. E!Mat E!TJ is a loss. E!Mat E!Aman is doable, depends on the one who survives. If TKN's an Elim... ouch. Bah. Amanuensis. I bet the Shade Doc is really happy with all of the everything lol- 275 replies
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Mid-Range Game 64: Shades of Crimson
Ashbringer replied to Szeth Pancakes's topic in Sanderson Elimination
But... why? Just because it might be obvious doesn't mean you have to make sure people know. And you wouldn't have the Dawnshard in any case, where would an IKYK even come from.- 275 replies
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Long Game 96: KKC in the Modern Age
Ashbringer replied to little wilson's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Signing up as... Issal, a young al-chemist who really doesn't know the University that well. I'll need to figure out what I'm submitting later. Keep in mind I've never read KKC- 692 replies
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Mid-Range Game 64: Shades of Crimson
Ashbringer replied to Szeth Pancakes's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Okay time to put some cards on the table, then. I hold the Dawnshard of Time. I've held it since the beginning of the game, revived Aman who has no role, et cetra. I'm no longer Injured so I believe I can revive someone today, regardless of whether an NK comes for me or not. Aman asked me if I was the Holder in a new PM, and when I asked why he wanted Wonko revived he said that Wonko claimed Assassin to him. I asked Mat if Aman was throwing him off, and he said that Aman told Mat that I held the Dawnshard. I don't know why a Village Assassin Wonko would hold off on NKing, then claim to Aman, then not shoot again and get NKed. I don't know why this distro would have an Assassin in the first place. And I don't know why Aman would tell people I claimed Dawnshard holder to him. Or claim that the Dawnshard holder would get that he had no role when me knowing that would be better evidence for me being the holder. So, what to do. What to do. I wasn't planning on reviving Wonko. Now I'm even less so. But is this E!Aman trying to desperately get a teammate revived? Is this V!Aman pocketed by E!Wonko? Is this V!Aman and V!Wonko and E!Mat is just trying to play of Paranoid Threnody Ash? Or is this just Paranoid Threnody Ash entirely and we vote TJ here? And who is the blasted Fighter? I have a Silver Blade but I'm not planning on letting me get banished any time soon.- 275 replies
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Mid-Range Game 64: Shades of Crimson
Ashbringer replied to Szeth Pancakes's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I’m trying to think and it’s not going very well… Really depends what roles we have left to work with.- 275 replies
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Mid-Range Game 64: Shades of Crimson
Ashbringer replied to Szeth Pancakes's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I will note that after two "low-info" kills, the Elims went after Wonko instead of TJ. ... or me, I guess. I will also note that changing behaviors after they're pointed out isn't that unusual, but it's a point for not-us-two.- 275 replies
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Mid-Range Game 64: Shades of Crimson
Ashbringer replied to Szeth Pancakes's topic in Sanderson Elimination
As much as I love to argue that power roles aren't always village roles, it's probably village Maybe. Probably. Mat, Ash, TJ, TKN, Aman remain. At least one Elim in the group, maybe two. And DeTess over in the corner with a Blade, but it can't be just E!DeTess left.- 275 replies
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Mid-Range Game 64: Shades of Crimson
Ashbringer replied to Szeth Pancakes's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Oh I thought the game was over. Guess not.- 275 replies
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Mid-Range Game 64: Shades of Crimson
Ashbringer replied to Szeth Pancakes's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Let's do some math. Archer didn't do his typical number-of-elims thing (at first I thought no one did, but Aman did just now), and also knowing there is a Fighter and a Homestead Leader (but presumably no Assassin) helps with the math a bit. Could be 2 elims, or 3. If there were 3 elims (and 8 villagers), worst-case scenario it's 8-3 C1, 6-3 C2, 3-3 C3. The game isn't over because one villager would be Banished (which still counts for parity) and elims need to outnumber, but functionally that's very not good. If there were 2 elims, worst-case scenario it's 9-2 C1, 8-2 C2, 5-2 C3. Better, but optimistic, and I'm not usually that optimistic on this planet. But, I think I'm willing to play with Aman's game here. Two Elims, or at least two still alive (meaning if there is a third, it's probably Archer). Who is that of the seven of us? I know I'm Village, for all the good that does anyone. Meta-wise I think I V-read Wonko too. Perhaps not, but they've drawn attention to themselves and Szeth wouldn't know their meta either. Devotary is the leading train and the fact no one's here watching makes me a bit more confident in our ability not to get hammered dramatically, but might as well extend it with no reads. TKN and TJ are read black holes, although I used to be able to ping e!TJ with some accuracy. And then Mat's weird in how unable to get a read I am. And then there's Aman. If not Devo I may want to push Mat here, but I'm fine with Devotary. (Edit: hi Mat) There's the asterisk if Aman was elim, and dead C2 and alive again (or if Alpha was dead). Archer and Wonko were the only two who really regretted exeing Aman / pushed for a resurrections. That's part of why I pushed Archer last turn, because in the case of a large chunk of the elim team going down D1, their fellow Elims would probably push for a rez because otherwise they're out of options. Pushing out Aman again is an option we have, but that might be doubling down too much. Devo - I'm fine with DeTess staying Banished, if it comes to that. Not going to vote what a V!Survivalist does one way or another. One last thing - I got hit by a Fighter last turn. Probably the same one who hit Archer.- 275 replies
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Mid-Range Game 64: Shades of Crimson
Ashbringer replied to Szeth Pancakes's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Well I was writing up a post but I need to eat dinner and Aman already said half of what I wanted to say. Suffice to say, I’m fine with DeTess staying banished. I went on Devo earlier, I can again, but I want to get back at looking at people after dinner if I can.- 275 replies
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Mid-Range Game 64: Shades of Crimson
Ashbringer replied to Szeth Pancakes's topic in Sanderson Elimination
From my understanding Banished Villagers still count towards parity, while Banished Elims don’t (@Szeth_Pancakes?). Villagers could be still doomed by the Shades, of course, but they could also be saved by a survivalist or have Knives. It doesn’t seem that strong in Elim hands, especially compared to an Assassin or the Dawnshard (which specifically doesn’t start in Elim hands as opposed to the other two which could be in either). I think an e!Survivalist distro is more likely than an e!Homestead Leader, but I don’t like assuming that anyone is Village. And whether or not they banish DeTess will perhaps give some credit to that. Threnody-Ash is paranoid And Wonko agrees with most of my ideas. Not sure what to feel about that.- 275 replies
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Mid-Range Game 64: Shades of Crimson
Ashbringer replied to Szeth Pancakes's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Yes? I don't particularly trust DeTess at this moment, partially because of an Aman push. If she wants to risk getting Banished or eaten by Shades to get us a flip, sure. And I also don't particularly trust the organic method. We don't know if the Homestead Leader is Village or not, or if they take requests or not.- 275 replies
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Mid-Range Game 64: Shades of Crimson
Ashbringer replied to Szeth Pancakes's topic in Sanderson Elimination
As much as I hate directing power roles what to do, DeTess being Banished makes things a bit easier. For the exe, Archer for now.- 275 replies
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Ashbringer replied to Szeth Pancakes's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Also reading the writeup, that’s a lot of blood shed.- 275 replies
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Ashbringer replied to Szeth Pancakes's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I suppose, but that assumes we both have a leader and that they take requests. We also still have an Exe to do. Interesting if someone up for the exe were to be killed, we wouldn’t know which is which.- 275 replies
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Mid-Range Game 64: Shades of Crimson
Ashbringer replied to Szeth Pancakes's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Frederrick was doing some sewing when the news had arrived. Interlopers, who'd killed or somehow disappeared a bartender. It was news. One might even say it was dramatic news. But Frederrick was looking for news that was a bit more... he wasn't sure. Impressive. Outrageous. Something he could cry from the walls of one of the fortress towns. Something truly revolutionary. But that wouldn't happen until the shades vanished or undid themselves, or the Evil left the Homeland. Or if the Evil came here, he supposed. But that wasn't what had happened, so he kept sewing together his jerkin. He liked sewing. It was necessary, and something other people seemed a bit hesitant to do. Needles and blood and all sorts of things. Frederrick thought that was ridiculous - shades were only upset by blood spilt by someone else, not yourself pricking your finger on a needle. And besides, there was still a butcher in town. That was actually risky. Even Jormmuthar hadn't wanted to do that, not for cheap. So sew he did. Well, what else did you expect him to do? It's been a while since I've actually had to, you know, play the game. Or it feels like a while. LG95 was a beast, LG94 was a trust pitfall, and life is busy. But I'm going to vote Devotary. Something about those posts feels a bit off to me. If Alpha keeps up the E!Claim I may pivot there though. Edit: also Town of Salem 2 is out, apparently. That's kinda cool.- 275 replies
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Mid-Range Game 64: Shades of Crimson
Ashbringer replied to Szeth Pancakes's topic in Sanderson Elimination
... Alpha, if you're claiming evil because you're RPing a sleeper agent assistant, you can RP as evil and not just claim it besides sleeper agent implies they're sleeping- 275 replies
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Mid-Range Game 64: Shades of Crimson
Ashbringer replied to Szeth Pancakes's topic in Sanderson Elimination
To RP or not to RP, that is the question. Welcome back! If I’m reading the rules right, the Leader can’t banish anyone this turn at all. Not sure how I feel about asking they don’t. Also, I don’t think there’s much control in flips. We can only flip based on the number of Knives available (1/4 of the player count, so either 2 or 3 which is… not many). And even that’s tricky, it seems to require banishing and RNG on who actually flips.- 275 replies
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Ashbringer replied to Szeth Pancakes's topic in Sanderson Elimination
In as Frederrick, who is definitely not a sleeper agent for Lamentation to steal a Dawnshard.- 275 replies
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Long Game 95: The Fire of Ado's Light
Ashbringer replied to Ashbringer's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Hmm. I don't know if Intent Conversion really stops it from happening, it more slows it. Because the choices that avoid the risk of Intent Conversion risk the Shard getting into the wrong hands, and also the Village as a group knows that if they come together to Breach a Shard, that there's a risk the recipient will Intent Convert. But I think I get what you mean (mostly) - and yeah, Intent Conversion means players don't need to take their current wincon as seriously. That's a danger in most games with conversion, but especially this one where you can self-convert. And, I don't know if that can really change without scrapping the concept entirely, which is what I'd probably do. Not having a Village faction is an idea, but I don't know how you'd execute it. Unless I go for another another variation of Shard Game - take the AG5 starting split factions, and then give them the power to Breach the Shards they choose and the entire faction gains potential wincons based on what Shards they collect. Though at that point you're running a more chaotic AG5.- 1443 replies
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Long Game 95: The Fire of Ado's Light
Ashbringer replied to Ashbringer's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I will say, "LG49-style anon game with 16 players / 16 Shards" is on my list of ideas! But I think Mat is doing something sort of similar, and it would... not be taking much from this game. At all.- 1443 replies
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Long Game 95: The Fire of Ado's Light
Ashbringer replied to Ashbringer's topic in Sanderson Elimination
The Village does have options for keeping Shards. A Villager could just sit on a Shard and save 1-2 Shardics for when they’re most needed, or they can do 2 Shardics and then pass the Shard to someone they trust. Both of those would be a lot better options with more Village coordination, sure, but Prudence (Shardic passing or Charges) leaves that as an option. I do think a future Ash Shard Game would be less of a rerun though. I’m piecing together ideas.- 1443 replies
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Ashbringer replied to Ashbringer's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Part of the reason I'm a bit hedgy on Intent Conversion is, is that it's not my mechanic. It's a carryover from Seonid's game, and I don't really have a good view on what his intentions were with implementing it, just how I changed things. For reference, in LG43, Intent Conversion happened after 2 consecutive Shardic Ability uses, by any non-Hoid and non-Khriss player. This would then grant them a new neutral win condition, some of which were game ending and some of which were not. Also most of them were either hard or just not well balanced with each other (as evidenced by LG43!Autonomy ending the game out from under everyone's nose). For LG95, I made it so it took 3 total uses to just make it more impending, and that the win cons would not end the game and would generally be attainable by multiple players. I also made it so AC and SoU who Intent Converted would retain both win conditions, with the logic that an Intent Conversion would hurt those teams more than the 17th Shard otherwise. I think most of these changes made it more fair, but it also may have removed a lot of the risk in Intent Converting, because any Shard could work with anybody. Also, Intent Converting to the SK faction is a whole different discussion, and likely something I could have considered better. It is a pretty key part of this game, because of the nature of the Containment and Siphon system - there has to be some counterbalance to prevent the Villagers from securing the more powerful Shards early on through sheer numbers, just like how the Conversion nature of the game is a counterbalance preventing the Elims from doing the same. That becomes a decent argument for not letting 17th Sharders keep their wincon, so that if they want to keep a potent Shard in Village play they have to either sit on it without using the Shardic or pass it to someone who potentially isn't to be trusted. (I think changing the Containment and Siphon system entirely, ie the cumulative Siphoning I mentioned earlier, could also help counterbalance - I'd just have to figure out how that actually would work.) I don't know if it's something I'd try and fix over just abandoning the Siphon system and running a standard-ish Shard game with the Charges in place of Investment Roles. I am going to keep the fourteen wincons I had to make and then not use on the back burner in case I do, though... Edit: Also Taldain and Scadrial D3 should be fixed now- 1443 replies
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