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"Are you leaving again soon?" -
Alright, that's totally fair Do what works for you.
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"So... not in the camp?"
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"Three hours ago."
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"Oh, yeah he did that. I think there should be more people, though. Where were you before here?"
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"Or... ee... ented? What does that mean?"
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Craven nodded. "It was. I walked for a long time. I don't know how long. "Have you met that guy outside? Fadran, I think. He seems nice."
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Yes, but you shouldn't use it as a strategy, as that isn't really fun for anyone If you're able to participate, please do- though of course real life trumps this and if you can't for whatever reason don't feel pressured to. But contribution crusades do exist. I don't normally go for them, especially this early, but it's a thing.
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Through spoonfuls, Craven spoke, trying not to break eye contact like a coward would. "I'm new here. I walked."
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Craven looked up from his stew when he saw someone else poke their head in. He didn't much feel like talking, but cowards didn't stay silent. He waved. "Hello, I'm Craven!"
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I think it was less of a specific and more general. Sure, you might have preferred Striker, but it's been pointed out that most people on that train didn't really have reasoning. Reasoning that you posted about Illwei. As for D3, that's a fair reason. But as I said earlier I think the point was more a general one- there was some contradiction on how much you said you suspected Illwei and how much it looked like you suspected Illwei. Plus, at this point that's only a small portion of my suspicion. There's the ever-present gut and the vote manipping, too. Philico whistled a happy tune, one not fit for the night it was sounded. Philico had needed to create lungs to make the noise, which had been a small hassle, but he didn’t particularly care. The music calmed him. His mind worked, in a dash attempt to finalize the story he had created before he had to tell it. He didn’t want to ad lib, but if he needed to- “Mr. Phil!” Peter’s voice echoed through the town louder than Philico would have liked. The boy ran up to him, and sat down eagerly. Philico sighed. He had hoped Peter wouldn’t come this soon, though patience was a trait rarely seen in the young. Clearly Peter was no exception. “Welcome, welcome!” Philico said, raising his arms in a showy way. “I take it you want to hear the rest of the story.” Peter nodded eagerly. “Yes, yes!” “Before that, I think you should recap what you already know about the charac- I mean, the original settlers of this land.” Philico mentally chided himself. He needed to be more careful about throwing words around. Peter didn’t seem to notice, thankfully. He was too busy trying to recall what he had heard the night before, face scrunched up in concentration. “Well,” he finally said. “There were two brothers, with funny names.” Philico sighed again. “Noble names, with deep meaning.” he interrupted. “Why, the tales that the names Ico and Draimon could tell-” Peter giggled. “I think the names are funny.” Philico waved a dismissive hand. “Well, on with the summary.” Peter sat up straight, as if he were reciting a report for a school class. “One of the brothers wanted to conquer the lands, and the other wanted to live happily without fighting. The angry one wanted to kill the nice one, but the nice one got away. I think that’s it.” Philico nodded. It seemed that Peter already had some bias with the characters, but that was fine. “Indeed. Very good. As you recall, Draimon knew he could not return until he could beat Ico in a bout- as it was, Ico was the better warrior. Draimon needed an advantage.” Philico moved some hordelings out onto the ground in between them, crouching down to cover them before Peter could notice. He gradually moved the hordelings together, stitching them into the shape of a sword stuck inside of a stone. An old adage, from somewhere not here. Perhaps it would speak to Peter. “Draimon traveled far, looking for anything that would aid him in his troubles. After weeks of walking, he came upon a beautiful sword, wedged in the crack of a boulder.” Philico moved, revealing the replication he had created, and Peter gasped, moving closer to look at it. “Draimon drew it from within the boulder, and felt power flow through him.” Philico moved the hordelings that formed the sword shape, out to rest on the ground. Peter tried to pick it up, but Philico reflexively batted away his hand. “He knew it would be enough to defeat Ico and stop the war. “But not being a war strategist himself, Draimon had neglected the most basic concept. Draimon had removed himself from the area, eliminating the only thing in Ico’s way from making his dream a reality.” Philico waved his hands, and hordelings skittered past. He had already used this trick before, imitating an army, and he did the same here. Peter’s eyes were wide. “Ico had already destroyed the surrounding towns when Draimon arrived. By the time Draimon had found his brother and slew him with the power of the sword, it was too late. The area was at war.” Peter couldn’t hold his silence any longer. “But that’s not how it’s supposed to go! The good guys always win.” Philico imagined all that he had been through, all the struggle he had seen and been a part of. The good guys, in fact, did not always win. But he didn’t say that. “You didn’t let me finish. “Draimon led the war front, never attacking, but defending marvelously using the relic he had found. After years of fighting, the last enemy fell, and peace was established among his community. Only now, Draimon had no neighbors which to trade with. His people had no one to exchange ideas with, no one to compete with in friendly matches. And so they died out, and the population of this land was extinguished. Eventually, new settlers found their way here, and those would be your ancestors.” Peter let out a breath. “That’s it?” “Yes, Peter.” Philico said. “Not all stories have happy endings.” “But what happened to the sword? The one Draimon found?” Philico shrugged. “No one knows. It could be anywhere. But I’ll tell you something I do know.” Peter sat up a bit further. “What’s that?” “It’s that you need to go rest.” Peter’s face fell, and Philico laughed. “I’ll have something for you tomorrow.” Peter nodded. “Goodbye, Mr. Phil!” he said as he left. “Thanks for the story!” Philico sat staring at the wall for a long time that night. The tale might have been made up, but Philico couldn’t help wondering if the situation he was in was akin to the one he had created. When all this was over, how many would be left? Yay for 3,000! (And I do actually have something for tomorrow You'll just have to wait.)
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Yeah, I'd be happy to- this can also be like a mini thing for everyone else that didn't read the iso :P. Which honestly isn't even that long. A lot of it won't mean anything unless you read Illwei as village, though. I do, so it made a lot of sense. First: Quoting the most important parts I think Early on, about voting Illwei: A bunch of random points I found mildly interesting but don't really add to suspicion: Second: Illwei's TL;DR at the top of the iso Not gonna quote directly, but Maill continually had Illwei as his top suspicion and continually didn't vote her. People have been saying that if v!Illwei, e!Maill makes the most sense- so it looks a lot like stalling, knowing that after Illwei's flip Maill would be next. So that, mixed with the gut I'd had since D1 against you, plus now the manip that I saw and the push against Quinn to save you, solidifies my elim read on you. I also don't like how both you and Stick are pushing that the Fallion Four is v/v/v/v. Seems to forced. I don't want to jump too far into Maill-Someone e/e pairings but I can see Maill/Stick and Maill/Araris. Former for the defending/flip-flopping, latter for the vote pattern.
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While we’re talking about recommended targets: Seekers: Tani, Maill, Araris Coinshots: Maill or maybe an inactive. Maybe.
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Forgot to ask- Quinn voters, you accused the Maill voters of not having reasoning- what was your reasoning? iirc Devo was like the only one to have reasoning for voting Quinn ^^^This
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The one rollover I sleep in. Wow. I don't know what happened at the end there. To make things clear: People kept saying that I was voting Maill for the same reasons as Quinn. This is not true, I specifically said that they were different when commenting on Quinn's reasoning. My reasoning for voting Maill was the same as Illwei's (who... didn't keep their vote, for some reason :P) who provided a massive iso with tons of good points that apparently I'm the only one who read. So my suspicions have not changed in the slightest. I assume Quinn manipped off herself, and I assume the elims manipped off Maill.
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Sorry, I assumed the part I quoted there was the reasoning... brain a bit mushed today I point you to QF51 :P. But I guess that's your point.
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I had a plan for my 3,000th post.
And I forgot it. And now it's six away.
Help.
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Replying-in-bold thing again. I like doing that, it turns out...
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I somehow only grabbed two quotes for my post here from the part of the thread I haven't read yet. That means a lot of the discussion there went over my head :P. If you want my input on something I missed @ me. [1] I don't exactly agree with the reasoning against the claim itself- I don't find that super strange and it just boils down to a difference in personality rather than alignment imo. And Tani has said she's a Dustbringer The scanning seems smart though- @Seekers, consider scanning Tani this cycle- if she shows up as Reg Vil we'll know something's up. Though there's always the IKYK of if the elim!Smoker will smoke Tani just for confusion . *Realizes you already said that* I'm reading them as village because of the claim tbh. A very tentative village, but still village. [2] Just putting here I generally agree with the Gears suspicion. It started for me about the Maill/Gears possible connection that Illwei mentioned- yes, I'm shamelessly trusting most of that iso until I have a reason not to- but the other points on Gears stand true as well. [3] I... don't, really :P. Ash just poking someone there doesn't seem too out of character for him. I'd mark it as NAI. For this section, I'm writing directly on the quote in bold. Note I'm commenting as if they're proven right, which they're not. My team prediction would be Maill/Stick/Araris/Gears/[Supreme/OtherInactive]/VillageTrustBecauseThat'sHowThisGameWorks Order of confidence is Most - Least. Not sure how I feel about that Quinn post tbh. A lot of the analysis feels very dependent and I don't like that. But this is from the guy who literally had an entire suspect list based off one assumed elim :P. So take that with a massive grain of salt. Edit: I think this is the vote count: Illwei (2): Burnt Spaghetti, Mailliw73 Mailliw73 (5): Tani, Illwei, The Windrunner Supreme, Matrim's Dice, Quintessential Quintessential (1): Araris Valerian Ashbringer (2): TJ Shade, _Stick_
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The thread seemed to grow exponentially while I was away snowshoeing this morning- fantastic. I’ll catch up later. @TJ Shade- I preferred Exp over Illwei because I trusted Illwei more, regardless if roles. Knowing Exp was a Rioter didn’t affect that, as I’m assuming the elims have manip of some sort so Exp seemed as likely as any other manipper would be. The role changed nothing about my preferences, it was just about my reads.
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Yes, those four. Though yesterday only my ones with Tani and Quinn were active. I heard about the plan to kill Illwei from... Illwei... and preferred a kill on Maill or Exp- that I told Tani after she claimed to me. I talked with Illwei about it and we both sorta came up with Exp, but Maill would have been my first choice. Since Quinn didn't want to kill Maill I guess Exp was sorta the compromise. Like I said though I had slight-meta read Exp village but I didn't know how reliable that was. [1] Illwei already did, and I generally agree with what she said there. So I'll do Stick instead. [2] See above... I wasn't the one to suggest Exp directly I think- I didn't shoot it down, and I preferred Exp over Illwei, but I would have preferred you over Exp for sure. Stab at the elim team because that went so well last time: Stick, Maill, Araris, lowerActivityPeople like Reading/TUO, and maybe Gears? -In case you couldn't tell, the first three are actual elim reads, the last three are not. Those are random names to fill up the space :P. Since I'm fine with both Stick and Maill I'll leave my vote, but if a counter exe comes up I'll switch to Maill. - Edit: I'm keeping up with the votes, I promise :P. Stick Maill @Kasimir
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I’m in my own PMs with each of them individually, not in any group ones.
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I have color-coded final counts :P. (Pre-manip) If they're bold they're confirmed village- disclaimer being I bolded myself D1: Of note: Striker train was all village. I don't remember if the Reading train was in response to Books or if it was in response to Striker, but it likely doesn't matter too much as Books was village. I think there are likely some elims on Books. I'd be shocked if there weren't. D2: Of note: Leading two trains both being village. Wouldn't be surprised though if the Pyro one had more than one elim on it. Also worthy of note: How many unconfirmeds there are on Striker's train. Though this being only a cycle later that's not too surprising. Conclusions: My main suspects are probably Stick and Araris after looking at this and remember my gut impressions of the game so far. Following that probably is Maill, though if Stick/Maill are evil they're doing a good job staying distanced. Edit: And Ash, to a lesser extent.
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Starting this off with a Stick- gut for the moment but I'm gonna iso her at some point.
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I knew Exp was Rioter, and that didn't clear him for me. I also knew Tani was gonna kill him, which I wasn't super upset about, but I would have preferred someone else (that's a general 'someone else', not a specific one :P) because I meta-read Exp village for acting similar in this game as he did in the QF. Which I couldn't say, because the QF wasn't over and Exp wasn't proven village there- I only knew because I was elim. I would have brought that up here now, but since he's dead it doesn't matter :P.
