Mat

? Is it just me or is this very contradictory- “I think Archer’s belief in Mat being conf elim isn’t true in the slightest” translates to I don’t read Mat elim, doesn’t it? :P. And then you’re voting me. The part about me being the Tineye doesn’t actually change the reasoning, it just adds to the point.

Yeah, that was interesting The funny thing about that though is everyone suspected me because I hard trusted Elan, who was the Starling- but no one else knew that. Here I’m not being suspected for trusting an elim, we don’t even know who the elims would be, but that’s beside the point :P. why do you think I’m probably elim anyway?

…You’re not serious Im not just going to idly sit as the rest of you self-destructs by voting me. I don’t want Archer to lose sight that I’m not confirmed elim, (or elim at all be he doesn’t know that) that his read is just a read, or he might misjudge other things. We need all hands on deck.

Archer, I notice you phrase things as if I’m confirmed elim. I ask you to reconsider so that this incorrect assessment doesn’t cloud your reads and therefore votes.

Well I can’t really vote on two people at once but if I could I totally would be voting on Szeth too. Szeth’s vote on you is weird to me. And Archer wasn’t wrong when he said Szeth has been easily convinceable so far (I think that was it.) But that’s also something I very much used to be regardless of alignment, so idk. I do think at least one of Steel/Szeth is evil, so I don’t really have a problem voting Szeth if more people want to do that. If your exe continues to have no resistance I might change over but that depends on a lot of things. But it’s not even a quarter of the way into the cycle. Therefore, this isn’t valid. Yet. Though now that you’ve said it, your theoretical teammates could stay quiet for a bit longer than they would otherwise in an attempt to further this line of thinking, or the elims if you’re village could resist it to backwards this, so it’s also kind of a null point now.

That was only a small part of my vote, and even if you weren’t on at the end of the cycle your vote was cast within the first half hour and there was time there. But if that wasn’t possible that’s understandable This messes with my theory, awesome. Guess we’ll see what happens. If you can look into that, please do, I think we could use a FoolproofAshKillAnalysis right about now (And also I would appreciate if you would put your vote in better words)

Hmm I’m feeling a Steel/Szeth team. I’ll go Steel for now. Might be worthwhile to check out Aureole’s reads. They did suspect Szeth.

To be fair, a large reason why we pegged you that early was because of Kas’ question. Edit: Reading through the elim doc, your thought process on me is quite entertaining Unfortunate that my PM with Kas got me killed, but I guess that’s just a well played from Drake. I do wish I had lived longer though, but I apparently I should be glad I survived N1 xD Steel, I also regret the shortness of our PM, but I think you befriended and backstabbed me well.

Well, rip. I guess that outcome is fair since the only villager who really would deserve a village win is Alv anyway, I’ve never seen a more effective vig. Anyway, I had a lot of fun in the game and doc so thanks for running it!

Part of me is paranoid that this is an attempt to draw me back to Steel so that he can hammer a tie or something weird but that makes like zero sense. Steel Edit: A bit overconfident, I think :P.

That would make me feel better about my vote on Steel but now I'm moving to Devo for self pres.

This is true lol. It's also true right now. I really don't know where to go. I'm lessening my sus on Archer (half just because I feel like I owe it to him for attacking him every game :P) and Devo explained herself well. I would move to Steel except he hasn't posted this cycle making me think that he had something come up that also prevented a switch at the end last turn. That's the weakest of my counterarguments to myself, so Steel. Does anyone know why Szeth has votes?

I believe that you couldn't be on after that and honestly it wasn't a stretch to assume the votes would change, so that all seems good to me. The disconnect I have is you actually finding Steel suspicious last cycle, though I guess here you just said 'more suspicious than Liranil' which seeing as Liranil didn't post that makes some form of sense in a way that I feel like it shouldn't.

In all fairness, I scrutinized Szeth's tone-based village read of me quite easily But I can see how it wouldn't be the ideal kind of reads for someone new to the site who doesn't know anyone's meta. Speaking of reads, have some: Mat- Hello, I'm village TUO- Their few posts ping me as village, but I also can't help but wonder if they're sincerely trying to put out more reads than usual, or are doing so because they're elim and feel like they need to so as to appear village. Ash- Just RPd, which is NAI for Ash, especially D1. Would like to see more from him though if that's possible. Steel- Their vote on Liranil could mean anything, though I'm curious as to why it stayed. @Steeldancer? Archer- They suggested a plan in PMs (I started the PM though) that had quite a few holes that I'm legitimately surprised he didn't notice before I did. It's enough to make me think he just hoped I wouldn't notice them. Also seems more pushy than usual in thread, though that can be explained by trying to start discussion. I'm not sure how to take his not voting, but I view that as NAI for now since elim!Archer would feel comfortable doing that as long as he's controlling the thread, which he is. I'm concerned I'm confbiasing him at this point but idk what to do with Archer. Our playstyles conflict so much with each other that I almost always elim read him so there's always that grain of salt. Szeth- I know I said that I didn't necessarily village read him, but I do now after my reread of the thread. Archer, rest easy knowing that I wouldn't be this blatant about a teammate, especially after your theory :P. Danex- Nothing, I have nothing. As long as he doesn't claim that elim!him would be more engaged, we're good Devo- As interested as I am in Steel's vote, I'm also interested in Devo's. It actually reminds me in a weird sort of way of my vote on Aureole from earlier, except Devo's stayed. What's also interesting is that I agree with Devo being kinda sus for not changing the votes up at the end of the turn, even though I also didn't and I know I'm village. For me though I also had IRL reasons, and I can't say the same for Devo, but maybe they did idk. Araris- Araris is weird for me to read right now. village. Let's go with that, yeah. Aureole- I realized just now that the Striker kill was likely just low-info because he hadn't posted, so my line of 'reasoning' for my earlier vote was even worse than I had thought. I pretty much have no read on Aureole for the moment, but it's probably null leaning village. Mat, Szeth, TUO, Araris, Aureole, Ash, Dannex, Devo, Steel, Archer If anyone wants to go with Steel or Devo I'd be fine with that but I'm sticking to my guns for the moment. I'm back in my own time zone so I legitimately have no idea when the cycle ends so that should be interesting. Edit: Woah ninja's, stand by... Edit2: Oh come on, it's not that dramatic Good reference though, and appropriate for me. Same and it's really weird. Though I'm on book 10. Still. ...I know I literally just said I'd be fine with Devo if that picked up but for some reason by stupid brain still wants to stay so stay I will. Might change over in the morning. Probably will change over in the morning I dunno >>

My main reason at the time for my suspicion on Archer was something kind of complicated from PMs that I honestly didn't want to try to explain. It was also the last day of my vacation (today was the return trip home) but since I'm back at my computer I should have more time for convincing

Smh when have I ever said I village read Szeth. Never. I don’t elim read him either but that’s not the same thing. Didn’t I vote Auri like way before they did anything against Szeth? I stayed because I wanted to see if anyone would join me, plus I’ve only had a few sparing chances to actually check the shard today so there wasn’t much chance for me to switch off in the first place. I mean. I kind of did explain the context, but no one asked me to elaborate. And I dunno what ‘successful wagon’ means but I have no qualms voting you. Archer. ‘Fully committing’ was what I was doing, up until now, with Auri. I’m totally sending this right back at you

Yeah I can see Archer/Aureole but idk. I know my vote on Aureole is super weak.

Because it pretty obviously wouldn’t work (though also I have to be fair and say that it took me a minute or two to actually see the holes) and I would think that a smart person such as yourself would have noticed them You also are poking people (not in the vote kind of way) more than usual, stirring up things more. Which isn’t necessarily bad, just different. I think it’s possible that the elims gambitted by killing someone their teammate voted on, because it doesn’t make much sense for an elim to kill their suspicion. This is a bad vote because that is literally the only basis. What was I supposed to do? I was happy voting Archer, there was no reason for me to change to another train because I didn’t want to be on another train. I know I’ve said this before but I’ll say it again: My abrasiveish tone comes through when I’m being suspected, regardless of alignment. You’re probably right in that it’s stronger when I’m elim, but as no one asked me anything last turn there was nothing to be abrasive about, so if you’re vil reading me this isn’t the best reason for it. I still appreciate it though

That was a dumb cycle… Sort of feeling Aureole for the reason of the kill and VC, but I’d still probably do Archer. I want to reread last turn to hopefully find something better than that. Please talk more, everyone

Not really tbh

It’s partly from PMs, for context.

Archer Call me stereotypical.

I’d say there’s no chance whatsoever of four, but generally yeah

Actually I voted you first but you ninja’d me so I switched it :P.

Yeah I totally didn’t forget this game started today okay cool. This game has the same rule set as my first QF, aka none 12 people I do think equates to 3 elims. Araris