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  1. "That's literally what the top of the mountain is for. This..." Kris began growing more and more impatient. "This is a single-use pass. It doesn't give us infinite... it..."
  2. "Because... I..." Kris blinked. "Do you think we'd just get to wait on top of the mountain for our flowers to grow?"
  3. "In the case of this flower - like I said - it's just the altitude that it grows at that gives it its potency."
  4. "Well of course. But nothing we grow will be anywhere near as potent as the natural kind."
  5. “I… sorry.” Kris scratched the back of his head, looking sheepish. “I get quite… carried away with all this. Learning about magic in all these different universes… it just fascinates me. “But anyways.” He pulled his hand away. “For the intents of this mission. The flower we’re looking for is known as the Moonsuckle. It’s a buttercup subspecies that grows best in thin atmospheres, meaning the higher you go, the better it is. Vangari use it in spell circles to peer into the past and find forgotten details from old memories: a very unique and controlled ability. In order for it to be remotely useful it needs to be completely matured though, so chances are a single flower will only have a single use out of it, and you’d need more than one to peer back even as far as a couple years. Quite the sought-after resource, with expeditions up the mountain being quite controlled for conservation efforts and safety reasons. However…” Kris reached into his pocket and procured a slip of pink-hued paper, stamped with black ink in the shape of a flower. “I managed to get my hands on a pass.”
  6. "I... I'm pretty sure it said on the poster why we're looking for it. Someone discovered it has an unexpected property and now everyone's clamouring to get a look at it."
  7. “Correct and correct. Like the plants themselves, our understanding and applications for this system are constantly evolving.”
  8. “And perhaps you really ought to stop acting like you have the moral right-of-way when you’re the one beating people to unconsciousness and pulling guns on anything that moves.
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    [12:22 AM; Jan 22, 2023]

    Ladies, gents, and genderbents; we call this court into session to discuss the reinclusion of Pluto into the Solar System Family. All rise for the honorable judge.

    [Judge enters]

    "At ease. Defendant may state their case."

    [Defending Attourney]: Your honor, let the record show that there are three qualifying factors to make you a planet:

    1. Be round (have enough gravity to squish yourself into a ball - known as Hydrostatic Equilibrium)
    2. Orbit the sun (obviously)
    3. Achieve influencial domination

    That third one is the one that disqualifies Pluto. Influencial domination means that the object in question has assimilated most or all smaller objects on their orbital path - that is to say, that it has conglomerated enough mass to dominate its sphere of influence. Pluto has achieved no such end result.

    [Judge]: Very well. May the prosecutor make their case.

    [Fadran (Prosecuting)]: Your honor, let the record show that this assumption was derived arbitrarily. While it is an effective claim, it is not based in fact or logic.

    [Defending]: Objection!

    [Judge]: Defending?

    [Defending]: Request for source.

    [Judge]: Affirmed.

    [Fadran]: The IAU's official term for the third effect is "clearing the neighborhood." There are no official thresholds, values, or proportions to back this claim. It is a simple phrase without any clear meaning. By its definition any amount of debris in any orbit could disqualify any planet, such as a rogue asteroid or even just a speck of dust.

    [Judge]: Defending?

    [Defending]: Your honor, while this claim is correct, it breaks down upon further investigation. On the other end of its scale, by removing this definition, any significantly-sized, round object orbiting the sun could be defined as a planet.

    [Fadran]: Request for source.

    [Judge]: Affirmed.

    [Defending]: Here is Wikipedia's list of objects in our solar system by size. The majority of these objects exist in an orbit around the sun. There are, approximately, dozens of these objects. Rejecting the definition of "clearing the neighborhood" would qualify most of these as planets.

    [Judge]: Prosecuting?

    [Fadran]: Your honor, the prosecuting wishes to cross-reference this information with this list of gravitationally-rounded objects.

    [Defending]: Your honor, relevancy.

    [Judge]: Affirmed.

    [Fadran]: Your honor, this list provides clear information as to several very specific bodies to be considered in Hydrostatic Equilibrium. In addition to the eight current planets plus the sun and moons, there are only ten other objects listed to meet this criteria. They are Ceres, Pluto, Haumea, Makemake, Eris, Orcus, Salacia,Quaoar, Gonggong, Sednar.

    [Judge]: Let the record show that each of these objects have adorable names.

    [Defending]: Regardless, your honor, to remove the qualifier of clearing the neighborhood would be to speak out against the IAU itself in a decision made based on science that we had nothing to do with. It would violate the trust of our greatest minds and innovators. I call to cede this case to them on behalf of the Planet Earth.

    [Judge]: Is this your closing argument, defending?

    [Defending]: Yes.

    [Judge]: Prosecuting, are you prepared to make a closing statement?

    [Fadran]: Yes.

    [Judge]: Continue.

    [Fadran]: Your honor, the jury, and the world: Ohana means family. Ohana means no one is left behind. Pluto was once our own brother in the Solar System, and to cast him aside due to such arbitrary conditions and lackings of traits is to dishonor our names as children of the Sun and as citizens of the Milky Way Galaxy. We disservice our science, we disservice our culture, and we disservice our brother in spacetime.

    Let the record show that it is no more than rank distate that disqualifies him as our sibling. It was our human misconduct that pushed aside this deformed ally, friend, and brother. We cast him away to the other belittled and forgotten dwarf planets because we were too blind to see that a brother no matter the shape or size is a brother indeed.

    I call to reinstate Pluto as a planet! I call to bring our brother home! And if it means we must recognize a dozen others, them let them come! Let us open our doors, open our arms, and open our hearts to the family we have forgotten and cast aside! Is there not room enough in this Solar System for the all of us? I call to bring them home!

    [Defending]: ...

    [Judge]: Have you concluded your finishing statement?

    [Fadran]: Yes, sir.

    [Judge]: The vote is now taken to the jury.

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      @Enter a username there is an official threshold, the center of Gravity around which both Pluto and Charon(Pluto's largest "moon" and I use moon rather loosely) is not Pluto, but rather a specific point several kilometers above Pluto's surface. Gravitational dominance requires that the object in question be the center of gravity, not a point between it and another celestial body.

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      You should be telling Fadran that:

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      [Fadran]: The IAU's official term for the third effect is "clearing the neighborhood." There are no official thresholds, values, or proportions to back this claim. It is a simple phrase without any clear meaning. By its definition any amount of debris in any orbit could disqualify any planet, such as a rogue asteroid or even just a speck of dust.

       

  10. "All of them, really. Most multicellular plant forms are interesting to an extent. Up through mosses it’s really just plain energy, but past there it gets much more unique in the forms of things like ferns and other relatively primitive plants like that.” Kris traced a phylogenetic tree with his finger into the table, though it was a little hard to follow and didn’t help much. “This is where the Vangatic Elements come into play. I’m sure many of you are aware of various philosophical ‘essences’ that compose the universe. Most commonly fire, earth, water, and air; or perhaps wind, water, metal, wood, and fire. “Here it’s a… touch more complicated than that. There are three primary elements - stone, water, and wind - but they kind of… multiply against each other down the evolutionary line. Three becomes nine, nine becomes eighty-one… and now there are so many kinds of plants from so many kinds of lines that there are probably millions of ‘elements’ at this point. Over ten thousand have been documented, with several tens of thousands more just waiting for the scholars to get to them.”
  11. "Listen. Maybe fifty thousand is a lot of aces, but that doesn't mean anything if we have to split it up a dozen ways."
  12. "No, the chemical just changed along with evolution. The plants themselves don't use this chemical at all."
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