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  1. Frustration
    So it turns out Brandon may have given away some massive spoilers for SA 5, in saying that we will know for certain whether Honor can be restored in KoW However, he already confirmed that you can bring Shards back So it seems pretty apparent that Honor will be restored in KoW, which also means this is probably the last time we get to see unchained Bondsmiths, at least for a long time, so Brandon better be willing to go ham on this.
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    The Atium retcon actually dates back to 2009, so no they are fully established and have been for years. If Peter has exact numbers that means Brandon has already worked it out, otherwise Peter wouldn't have them. There is no source there, and footnotes are fan made, so I would be careful using the as evidence. The only evidence I was able to find supporting this is this WoB Which was supplied by the questioners and if you listen to the audio there is a long pause where Brandon stops to think about it. Hardly compelling evidence. Brandon said Iron feruchemy stores mass but when feruchemists punch there isn't a mass transfer. Which he mentions as being different from what mass would do on its own, which he acknowledges in the next line by saying there are tweaks. @alder24 That's just a slightly better Mistborn against a slightly better Windrunner, I'd say it's the same as base Mistborn and Windrunner would be.
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    He's heavier, meaning he can more easily use steel to push his opponent off the train, while being less affected by the same tactic. That's practically the most comfortable thing I can imagine. If you would look at the full context you would realize that what is in flux is Brandon's understanding of acceleration, and his desire to serve reader expectation, not the underlying mechanics of the cosmere, which have been well established for years at that point. I'm not even sure what you are trying to argue here? We've known for almost a decade that Brandon knows the concepts Peter has the math. Iron feruchemy doesn't make sense, he just has to play by the rules he established when writing, and they don't make sense in any scientific capacity It is not completely different, it's pretty simple really. He says "but when a Feruchemist punches someone, you’re not having a mass transference of a 1000 pounds transferring the mass into someone else." and he says this in reference to feruchemy not acting how you would expect it to act if it was mass. Therefore you cannot justify assuming that it is just mass and there is nothing unusual about it as you seem so determined to do.
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    It never said the feruchemist was 1000 pounds, only that you don't have people hit with that weight. Meaning there is no additional force. Especially when there's a WoB that answers the question It is very specific, and proves exactly the point I want.
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    That WoB isn't talking about Wax, and it specifically says that punches are arbitrarilly different from what you would expect, and boxers do put the vast majority of their weight into their punches, so no, punching is different. Resources that he has plenty of, and what uncomfortable situation, he clearly is in no danger of being thrown from the train. He really does, he says that what we see in the books does not support punches hitting as hard as they would if mass increased. You are just continuing to ignore this because you don't like it. What? He repeatedly increases his wieght to several magnitudes beyond normal, and does so at least once in every book. He says if you look at what happens in the books, it doesn't happen and that it's a tweak on what would happen if it was mass, so yes, he really does. I can, and I will. That was after both AoL and WoK had been published, the mechanics of the Cosmere were very well established at that point. Additionally there are no more recent WoBs or books saying otherwise, so it stands regardless of how old it is. Alright let's break it down, again. Some Physics rules are broken Some of the rules are arbitrary Mass is not added to punches Note that on the third point he doesn't say if they have made themselves a thousand pounds, he just says that a feruchemist doesn't hit with a thousand pounds, meaning that in no scenario does the amount of iron someone is taping affect how hard they hit.
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    There is, notice how in the top right corner of the box there is an arrow, click on that and you'll go back to the original post
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    He regularly ignores science in favor of doing what the reader expects, like how Windrunners can black out when making high speed turns, despite that not being at all what would happen. He also fought the coinshot, and didn't use it, despite getting into a punching match with him when he lost his guns. He says you can't, other WoBs say there are some wierd things with F-Iron, Brandon intentionally altering speed bubbles because he didn't want to irradiate those inside, the books not saying anything on the issue, but no one even tries to use it, etc. But when direct statements won't convince you I'm not sure what will.
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    Why not? What evidence do you have for Jasnah having greater skill? A few hours? To break through a foot of stone?
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    Wow, he spoke kind of funny, better throw the whole thing out then. Tapping weight does not cause the feruchemist to slow down until they start tapping incredibly large amounts, and as seen with Wax moving quickly is still possible. He manipulates his weight on trains multiple times and never experiences anything like that. That is completely true.
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    So you admit that Jasnah is not the pinacle of skill and a Lightweaver have equal or greater skill would not be unusual? How much steel is enough?
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    Heralds are alive, and as Ash says they were more restricted than radiants were. I still dispute this, whether or not they would kill themselves doing it, they cannot push hard enough to break that much stone.
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    Honestly I'm a little horrified that I was able to come up with this. Not A mistborn, mistborn plural.
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    Yes it is, and he has said that you don't. Liquidating Miles would have been pretty useful, as would fighting the other coinshot on the train in BoM, or countless other scenarios. If density increased it would increase proportionally, meaning if Wax made himself 100 times heavier he would punch with 100 times more force, easily killing anyone short of miles instantly, and even Miles would take serious damage. This is way smarter than anything I could do, but I'm not sure I understand, I tried putting the numbers in but could you show me what the variables mean, and how you get them to come out correctly?
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    And? It was the force of the entire body. When he says Sazed is making a mistake he says "that's what we decided it needed to be" meaning Dragonsteel saw a problem and had a discussion about it, so no that's not just him hearing the wrong question. And that is overriding the books. When he says punches don't transfer force the other WoB overruled any scenes that even implied it was wrong, so it doesn't contradict anything. Tapping pewter. Brandon mentions higgs field stuff, but he never says you can punch with incredible force. And you would think if it were possible Wax would have done it at least once, however anytime Wax needs to break down a door he doesn't punch it but rather slams his entire body into it. Nor does he use it to punch people in combat, despite several times it would be helpful. There isn't any scenes that are wrong, just Sazed descriptions of them.
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    Sorry to bring this back up, but I have found evidence that Jasnah is not unusually skilled. Brandon does not say it's impossible, or that it requires more power, only skill. And Jasnah is included. However he specifically says living soulcasters, meaning that there have been those skilled enough in the past. Therefore Jasnah is not unusually skilled, and a Lightweaver can soulcast a hallway.
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    Then he's above them and that has no bearing on punching someone harder. Unless Brandon says that the books are wrong, which he has multiple times, in fact era 1 has the most issues out of all of the Cosmere books, and has required multiple retcons over the years to keep it within the rules of the rest of the Cosmere. Atium being the most obvious one. Not once in the books does someone tap iron and the punch with outrageous force.
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    A regular human could break someone else's bones with a hammer. That's just not true, as the multiple WoBs I've posted have shown, iron does not allow you to hit someone harder, but it does give a slight increase in strength, with Brandon admitting that he got some f-iron wrong in era 1.
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    You could easily break human bones in that situation, so no it's not that difficult.
  19. Frustration
    The conditions of their worlds are irrelevant, they've been summoned to a different one and ordered to fight to the death for our enjoyment.
  20. Frustration
    Yeah that works. Though I will say that a Windrunner would have to be stupid to be low enough to allow that.
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    em is an abbreviation of them It would probably hurt a bit more but yes. No. Run straight at them and jump in the air before impact though, and then you'll get the reaction you want. Why? That's how it was written, I don't know what else to tell you.
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    Which as explained before, and this is the third time now, tapping iron slightly increases your strength. And stone in the shape of bones is not that hard to break.
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    It does not make any sense, and Brandon himself acknowledges that, but says "I've made these rules I just have to follow them." Oh you could totally crush someone under you, you just can't punch em harder.
  24. Frustration
    That is strictly not true Mass is involved but it does not follow physics at all, not just in density, and as the WoB up above says you cannot puch someone with 1000x force even if you are 1000x heavier. So no, there is no more force. Or Sazed estimated because he had absolutely no way to tell with certainty.
  25. Frustration
    Iron increases strength slightly, as the WoB I posted describes.
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