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I feel like we know enough to know he hasn't. We know he's been "bound" to the Roshar system for six thousand Scadrian years, at least. We know Odium fears Harmony, which he likely wouldn't if Harmony were dead. We heard Harmony talk in Alloy of Law (granted we hear the Stormfather plenty, but he didn't sound like a ghost to me).

...which totally confused me, because she expressly Invests first. Before she Soulcasts, she inhales a ton of Stormlight from the gems she found. Was it not enough? Did it take the gemlight rather than her light? Was her internal Stormlight just to get her safely to Shadesmar? What exactly went on there? We do have WoB that Soulcasting is the only (or at least a rare) Surge that cares which gem you get your Stormlight from. Also recall, most of the time Jasnah is Soulcasting, she's pretending that she's using a fabrial. She has much more practice than either of the two Surgebinders we've seen so far, and for all we know Ivory is a more knowledgeable teacher, so she might know how to at least make it look like the light is going straight from the gems into the Casting, and does so to maintain the illusion.

Inconclusive... somewhere in Way of Kings, at one of the Feasts, I think, Dalinar mentions that there's a fabrial that can manipulate how much stormlight is in gems specifically to be worn as jewelry, so we can't rule out that he deliberately Infused it a touch just for the party.

I checked and I feel like I know that freshly-harvested gems are Invested... there's a scene either when Sadeas collects the gem when it's not his turn but gives it away, or when Eshonai has grabbed the gem and is running but then Adolin stops her and sets up the meeting. At one or both of those times, I'm fairly sure I recall that the gem was specified as glowing.

17thCon? ConSmere?

Rao, with chasm line. If I'm the only person to enter, I win, right?

I do not believe Pattern ever says he was the only Cryptic sent over. Since Mr. Sanderson has said that Kaladin has met two Lightweavers, it seems reasonable that there's at least one more.

Minor note: The Everstorm cannot "return" as there was never an original Everstorm. This is the first.

The game's only just started, but the flavor text has been so much fun so far.

I'm confused... Most of us are saying that while of course there are viruses (viri?) on Roshar, the specific virus that on one planet is called "the common cold" never evolved on Roshar, hence the lack of indigenous immunity. Are you asking if we're saying that microbes simply don't exist on Roshar? I speak for myself but I don't believe anyone is suggesting that.

Keep in mind the lessons we've learned from Breeze and Tindwyl. Emotions aren't mind control (except for Koloss, I guess). If a guard is watching a door and told, "make note of anyone entering" and you enter while filling your duraluminmind, he might not feel a very spiritual or emotional connection to you, he might not care very much that you're walking through the door, but it will still be his job to mark down that you entered, however bored it makes him. Also, I am the biggest proponent of the usefulness of duralumin. I play a Connector in a Mistborn RPG.

Aru? Apart from the oddness of iron, what's handwaved in Feruchemy?

?? My reading of that quote suggested that it was metal specific. That because the "focus" on that planet is metal, the Investiture in every person will make the incidences of specifically metallic allergies lower. However, your interpretation is a valid one, even if a lower incident of allergies is very different than a higher resistance to illness.

It's not opinion when it's backed up by multiple documented sources... If you'd like to know the evidence that Teft is frequently wrong and that everything he knows was taught to him by people who are very, very wrong, I encourage you to look earlier in this thread where I raise all these points.

Got an email from Peter, he's joining us in our blind, hopeful insistence that everything will be fine.

Wait... you mean all of Jasnah's studying wasn't to memorize the chemical structures of everything ever? Man, boy did I read that passage entire book wrong.

Sigh. This is why you should never mess with time travel. The past is the future, the future's the past.

You're ignoring almost everything I'm saying, and in this most recent post you cherry picked two points of data and literally called it "Everything we have heard about". Since the very post I made that you were responding to refutes this statement, I'm not going to bother replying. You're not producing any arguments I haven't already presented evidence against and you're not contradicting any of the points I've brought up. Since you're ignoring the evidence I'm providing, I'm not going to provide any more evidence. Since you're not actually refuting my points, I'm confident an impartial third party re-reading our discussion will be able to draw an intelligent conclusion. In other words, unless you'd like to address the points I've brought up or introduce new arguments, I'm pretty much done. For the record... natural skill is absolutely a thing, but no, not in the way you're thinking. It's not like someone is born predisposed to specifically be good at guitar. However, people are born in interesting ways. A woman might be born with genetics that provide for atypically long fingers, perfect and absolute pitch, a sense of rhythm. She picks up a guitar and her various favorable traits combine to make it something she learns easily. I, for example, happen to have decent pattern recognition. It makes me a "natural" at languages. It doesn't matter if I like a language, any given language might not interest me any more than it interests my buddy Pete, and we might put the exact same number of hours into memorizing the vocabulary, grammar and syntax. And I will probably remember more than he does, not because I spent more time, but because it's a pattern, and I simply memorize patterns better than he does. Whereas I am uncoordinated. Maybe the nerves in my body are wired inefficiently, maybe the fluid in my ears responsible for my balance is terrible, maybe I have as weak proprioception as I've got eyesight, maybe it's something in my muscles. The point is, I've been on my rugby team for years. I practice twice a week and drill passes more often than that with several of my buddies, all of whom are excellent players offering great advice. Guys who first touched a rugby ball two months ago are better than I am. They've put in significantly less time, and I doubt the case could be made that they "like" it that much more than I do. I never see any game time before B side but I love the sport. They're just better than me at this one specific thing. That's what a "natural" is. And they absolutely exist.

Soulcasting, even for a Surgebinder, requires you to use specific gemstones depending on the essence. At one point in the books, Kaladin and Szeth both Invest directly from the Highstorm. If Jasnah were to Invest directly from the Highstorm, what Essence could she Soulcast? Any of them? A brand-new 11th category?

He was presumably "sad" following the death of Tien, and that's when he starts training in earnest. If an enormous, formative chunk of his training was done during actual depression, sorrow should if anything improve his skills by reminding him of his training. That's how procedural memory works. The way a smell or a turn-of-phrase can suddenly remind you of an entire scene from your past, the temporal lobe of your brain makes those connections. Things that remind you of what it was like during a certain time in your life will call to mind the things you did, and learned, at that time. Also... you can't just handwave it away as "aw c'mon he was really sad." He's fought while depressed, while angry, while confused, while frustrated, and while distracted. Not only is "he can't fight cuz he was sad" not how actual skills work, but it's not how Kaladin has acted a dozen other times throughout the book. Do you think he wasn't conflicted and sad and in literal shock and angry when the Shardbearer slaughtered almost his entire squad? Yet he charged in, held his own for a few seconds, then stabbed a slit barely big enough for a knife blade against an opponent with not only training, but enhanced strength and reflexes. I'm sorry, but no. There simply is no way to believe that Kaladin is naturally inhumanly skilled without any Invested intervention, but that his kryptonite is "a specifically minor amount of sorrow." And as you point out, he only takes out those guards with surprise. I'm gonna re-read that scene, but the capacity to sucker-punch two people who have been tricked into thinking you're part of their assassination conspiracy doesn't mean you're a man of exceptional fighting skill. Kay... just re-read the scene. It was trickery, a suckerpunch, then he literally threw himself on the second guy. Some brawling and luck knocked the second guy out, then he lurched slightly upright and fell on the first guy, cold-cocking him. So... yeah. There was no skill there. There was no subtle play, drawing out your opponent and waiting for the perfect opportune moment to strike with just enough force. He literally threw his weight against two people who were stupid enough to let him inside their guard due to trickery. I'd say that's well within the limits of what someone with no natural talent but half a decade of experience could accomplish.

This has been covered before but I've got a new take on the subject. People have wondered forever why timebubbles don't shift light. I have two theories, both of which rely on something. All metals have a mental aspect. Pewter has balance, tin lets you filter noises and sights, etc. Maybe that's the answer for the external temporal metals. First scenario. The light is changing wavelength and shifting to red or blue, but the metal puts out a field that makes people see it adapted for the shift. Second scenario. The light doesn't change wavelength, but fewer photons make it through. People think televisions show moving images, but they don't, they just show a lot of still images very very fast. Flipbooks work the same way. The human brain has a compensating mechanism called Persistence of Vision which tricks our brains into thinking we're seeing a single, moving image instead of a hundred stills. In the second scenario, the metals take advantage of that. People are in fact seeing fewer images, but the allomancy manipulates your natural persistence of vision to string the images together in your head, making you see someone moving at 1/8 (or whatever) speed, rather than getting 1/8 (or whatever) photons than you'd expect, which would make the image darker. Or 8x (or whatever) or lighter. Just came up with this. Please, tear it to shreds. My own personal problem with this... it seems weird that a guy a thousand feet away looking at Marasi in her time-bubble through a sniper scope would be mentally affected by her allomancy...

Even if there's another Mistborn and another Vasher, I bet we'll be the only team there of Mistborn with Vasher.

Interesting take.

Actually... Yeah, it sorta does. Considering how much he trained, and that he'd been recovering for weeks from his injuries, if he had natural talent, he should have been able to pull off a few simple practice moves, maybe not perfectly, but without actually dropping his weapon. He wasn't out of practice, or exhausted, and he didn't act simply rusty, he was clumsy and uncoordinated. If he were a natural, even without supernatural skill, he should have been something between "Kaladin Stormblessed" and the spaz we see him as, weak leg or no. Regardless. Even if he were a natural, the point is that a ton of evidence from the books tells us his skill is supernaturally augmented. And it's heavily implied that this is from the Nahel bond. However, then Mr. Sanderson flat out told us it was not. So now I'm confused.

Ah, my apologies for exacerbating a simple misunderstanding.