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Elantrians don't self-heal via Aons; being an Elantrian automatically causes your body to heal rapidly. They could, presumably, draw a healing Aon to heal themselves even more/faster, but that's not the automatic self-heal, and surely models more like the "heal others" kind.

You do realize there's never been an Everstorm before, so we can't go by old Desolations.

...Which would require knowledge of what a microchip is and how to make one. And since you're doing it atom-by-atom, it would presumably be faster and easier to just have the Elsecaller turn five rocks into the base metals you need and have a skilled technician (who might be the same person) use that to make a microchip. Y'know, decades or centuries down the line when someone invents a microchip.

Elantris.

@One who Reads: To respond to your quoted text (which is, itself, difficult to quote), I know that's in the book, but I wish I understood why it would be so. It makes sense on Scadrial, where each House is in competition with every other House, and even within a single House there's jockeying for position and the constant fear of spies. That culture doesn't seem to exist in Hallandren. I wonder why, then, they guard knowledge so jealously? People who do research for the sake of research typically won't shut up about their discoveries. Except that it didn't. The military might of Hallandren, so exclusively that people ignore literally any part of their army but this, is the Lifeless, a BioChromatic force. The Gods are attended by Awakeners, skilled and powerful enough to break Lifeless Commands without the event apparently being worthy of note. Awakeners lift the GodKing into and out of his stand in the Arena. People with Breath casually use it to lift themselves in the air and see what's keeping the line. This is very clearly not a place where Awakening is taboo or verboten. As I've said before, we know for a fact that at least the Court of Gods has a large number of Awakeners with tons of time on their hands who see BioChroma as the key to their military superiority, which they wish to continue and expand upon. There isn't literally any reason for them not to be researching BioChroma in a large, well-funded, collective group. And finally, as I've said many times, you've given me reasons why we might expect progress to be slower. But progress wasn't slower. Progress stopped entirely, in a manner entirely unreplicated on earth. There are hardly any inventions or technologies on Earth that ever went 300 years without total, unrecognizable revolution, and in every one of those cases there was a specific reason why there'd be no research whatsoever. There is no such reason when it comes to BioChroma. Factors which would simply have retarded innovation are meaningless because we're not looking at reduced innovation. We're looking at innovation ground to a total and complete halt. That would require a specific explanation in an entirely different category to "this is why it wouldn't have gone so fast", and that is the only category of explanation anyone has yet provided. As a post-script, you both bring up points that other people already brought up and to which I've already responded, and are ignoring things I've already posted. The thread is only two pages long so far. It really isn't that hard to check and see if your ideas are novel or if they've already been broached.

Umm... Soulcasting.

Whether it was touch or steellines, why would darkness affect anything at all? And darkness is specified as the reason he burns tin. This must be a typo.

Marsh uses tin to read Goradel's message despite the darkness. A typo, or does tin enhance steelsight?

No, for the second sentence. You made the statement that with Adonalsium gone, people he created cannot still be born with Innate Investiture from him. That I can see, this statement is entirely supposition.

It is a pet peeve of mine when people start deciding they can speak to what I meant or why I said what I said. If you want to disagree, please feel to. I would appreciate if you would refrain from explaining why I'm saying what I'm saying. As I said, WoB implies that a Splinter is specifically one piece broken straight off something bigger. I recently posted a link supporting this argument which I will repost here tomorrow when I get to my home computer.

Oh, I see, and you're correct, my analogy was as ever awful. Kicking in the door was the wrong way to say it. I just mean that Soothing such as Zane did on Vin was a subtle, delicate thing, and that overcoming her Coppercloud like the Lord Ruler did required too much force and too specific (and large) a strength to both overcome it and still be subtle. And I know we got the quote to prove that wasn't the case here, anyway, and I didn't mean to poorly express myself and derail this topic so far. I was just musing about a thought inspired by this topic.

It was a blanket and powerful depression of all emotion immediately recognizable as the Lord Ruler's Soothing... How was it not door-kicking?

From the description you don't seem to be one guy going around having adventures, it's a bit more like Magic the Gathering. So you'll play a card which is an Allomancer. Just my impression.

Pulse: Citation, please?

Interesting question... With double Brass, you'd likely have the power to Soothe a Smoker. Would you be able to do it with any degree of subtlety? Would your Soothing simply be lessened by the power level of the Coppercloud or would it be like kicking in a door, where the act of breaching obviates a capacity for subtlety? Would there be any way to know you were Pushing just enough to overcome the cloud and had just a smidgeon more power to actually affect the person?

Hypothesis: The enhanced burn provided by duralumin is not instantaneous. Supporting arguments: 1. I've read that three times at a conversational pace, timing myself, without pauses between any of the four clauses, and it always times out just over seven seconds. That's up to five places where pauses could be including the gaps between "she burns" and "the first words," and "the last words" and "the burst ends". It would be natural for each gap to be at least a second, or two, I contend. In short, by timing out this, from a relatively small quantity of pewter (Vin was completely out and was running on the amount of pewter in a single Mistborn vial) you get a burst that lasts 7-15 seconds. 2. Source. This is in reference to Mistborn being stronger than other Mistborn. This says that Elend is more powerful than Vin for the specific reason that he burns metals at a faster rate. From the times he takes control of Koloss, even his duralumin boosts are more powerful. If all duralumin bursts were at the same speed, Elend would not be more powerful. Therefore, he must burn duralumin itself faster/more powerfully, meaning his duralumin bursts are shorter and even more concentrated. Additional speculation: I speculate that each Mistborn will have their own "duralumin burn rate," by which I mean, the enhanced ultra-flare at which other metals burn under the influence of duralumin. This will primarily be based on their own skill/power with duralumin, and therefore with practice and skill a Mistborn could get better at duralumin and affect their own burn rate. This means that even for a Mistborn, two different "bursts" of the same metal will be different lengths. One small amount of pewter let Vin burn for ten(ish) seconds; I suspect if she'd swallowed five beads of pewter as she did at the start of her first pewter drag, which she said would flare through in under an hour, she could burn it for something in the area of a minute or so. Additionally, I suspect a specific Mistborn will have different flare rates depending on their specialties in different metals. Shan Elariel, for example, was by all (very few) accounts good at emotional allomancy. I suspect if she used duralumin, she'd burn zinc faster than some of her other metals. To summarize a point I spread out a little, a Mistborn's duralumin burst rate for each specific metal is based primarily on their skill with duralumin, modified by their skill in the individual metal. EDIT: Here's an equation. Sharders love equations. R = (M*A)*D. R = The Rate an allomancer burns a metal. M = The fundamental burn rate of the metal itself (pewter burns faster than steel, for example) A = The allomancer's specific skill with that specific metal; Vin, for example, was probably better at pewter than copper, so she'd burn pewter faster and get more power. Also, Elend burns all metals faster than she does. D = The factor of a duralumin effect. 1, if the mistborn is not burning duralumin. Can vary from mistborn to mistborn. I have no idea if I think a Nicroburst could touch a Mistborn and affect their use of duralumin, or if duralumin is immune to nicrosil the way it's immune to itself.

And I didn't say that anyone said it was many Breaths. My original point had been about a Splinter being about direction, not power. Hoodie replied talking about comparative power levels. I reiterated that my point had never been about power levels. I'm sorry if there was confusion.

I disagree. Weiry has already addressed the Shards issue, and my previous comment stands. A Divine Breath was never 2000 separate Breaths; we are told time and time again, in book and in WoB, that the Divine Breath is a single Breath 2Kx as powerful. All I'm saying is, WoB has defined a Splinter as one piece of power broken off of a larger piece. Maybe the WoB was imprecise and maybe it does count going the other way, but that we know of, Nightblood is unique. The part I disagree with you on is that Shardblade = Spren. We know that Spren can form Shardblades. However we also know that Honorblades are Shardblades. Basically we've seen three types of Shardblade, and only one that we have any reason to suspect is a Spren. All jacuzzis are hot tubs, but not all hot tubs are jacuzzis. Prolly. Spren aren't all sentient, and they certainly aren't human. I'm not creeped out by the fact that my dog eats out of a bowl on the floor or that satellites are flung into space. It's no creepier that the spren get split in half, than it is that the stone itself is split in half. Or that you bit into an apple. It's suggested that Soulcasters get used with relative rarity; certainly not with constant use every day as you suggest. For years, Szeth is bound to his Honorblade every moment, constantly taking in Stormlight, Surgebinding, and using the Blade to cut things. If the Ardents use their Soulcasters more frequently than Szeth does, it has to be by a small margin, yet they have huge obvious noticeable deformities and he has none.

Stormlight, Elantris

Nightblood possibly not a Splinter. What few definitions we have of Splinters specify that they are bits that came off of larger powers. Nightblood is a lot of little powers fused as one. It's possible he's something fundamentally different that operates on a different principle. Presumably you are talking of the ancient fabrials. We don't see them used a lot. When we do, with the Soulcasters, the use makes the user appear inhuman. Why hasn't Szeth been modified as the Ardents have? A question that will have to be considered.

...except she also doesn't have her bronze on to notice. She's just as blind.

Where did they get the new Blade? It's still an oddity. Never before seen, without providence. Perhaps whoever gave Helaran his? What did they do about the guards who saw the first Blade and could have said, hey, that's not it. This wasn't just some guy, cuz almost no one would have access to an unknown Shardblade. It seems not to be the Sons of Honor unless they have terrible interagency memoes. This feels maybe like the kind of thing the Diagram could predict. The Ghostbloods knew of Taln, but sent Veil in to learn more.

Depth perception is highly overrated.

Okay... now you're making me want to do a koloss. Buy one of those muscle skin suits, get blue material and make a body oversuit, rip it strategically to reveal the muscle underneath, streak it with bright red dye in places to simulate koloss blood, shear off some nailheads and put them on my shirt (glue? Magnets?), make a big ole blunt wedge-shaped sword, throw a loincloth over the whole thing... EDIT: Suddenly realizing the irony that "wears a loincloth guy" might be my first costume to cover literally my entire body except for my eyeballs.

...You think Occam's Razor is a rigorous logical principle? That's not even terribly rigorous in real life, let alone in a narrative.