Narcoleptic Axolotl

I'm just glad Brandon didn't go ahead and make ALL the Kholins into radiants.

Well I can tell this forum has been abandoned, but since nobody's said it yet, in Oathbringer

On 3/10/2018 at 3:52 PM, The One Who Connects said:

The big question I'd have would be whether to have all 10 Honorblades, or only 9 to match the scene that it illustrates?

You have a point. (no pun intended ) Maybe have an empty slot where Taln's blade would have been? But that wouldn't make sense, because his blade was never there in the first place. I'm thinking make them angled in as if to be a ten-point star, but with only nine blades.

I think it should be the ten Honorblades, all sitting in a ring on the day of Aharietiam, maybe a dead thunderclast in the background. It's how the Stormlight Archive starts, and it's looking like the whole series will be about desolations and the oathpact. I think it certainly sets the mood for the series.

Okay. It makes sense, but we just don't have enough information on deadeyes to know how likely that is, if it's even possible.

On 3/1/2018 at 5:49 PM, Calderis said:

This assumes that the Fused are voidbinding. Considering the voidbinding chart, and Renarin, I don't think they do. 

 What about this has to do with Renarin? Glys was touched by Sja-anat. He was corrupted, not turned into a voidspren.

On 07/03/2018 at 9:02 PM, Roocifer said:

I don't think Cultivation and a splinter of Odium could coexist so closely.

I wasn't saying the Nightwatcher was created by Odium. Much on the contrary, I said that she was a splinter of Cultivation. I don't have a reference to back this up, but I believe we are told sometime that the Nightwatcher was created by Cultivation.

On 07/03/2018 at 0:44 PM, Belzedar said:

I had the same thought about the Sibling, actually. Since the Nightwatcher is so clearly of Cultivation, and the Stormfather of Honor, I thought maybe the Sibling was some kind of tenth unmade. Maybe there were ten "Made," and the Sibling was the one of them that escaped un-making. (I used to assume these "Made" were the Dawnshards, but I'm not so sure these days.) But if there is a tenth Unmade, I doubt that it's the Nightwatcher.

I must say, I'm surprised at how many of my theories have already been proposed.

On 07/03/2018 at 0:44 PM, Belzedar said:

So the last place he'd go is the Valley, where Cultivation seems extra present. The Nightwatcher is weird and creepy, but I think that's just supposed to signal that Cultivation isn't as nice and loving as we might assume. I'm not convinced that Odium has any influence in the Valley.

That is likely. But I think it's more like in Well of Ascension when <spoilers> Straff and Cett are both going to attack Luthadel, but don't for fear of exposing themselves to the other. </spoilers> Also, I don't think Cultivation is capable of being anything other than good. Just as a gardener clips certain branches for the plant's own good, Cultivation should be able to do things (such as take away Dalinar's memories) seen as negative at first, but the outcome is positive overall. 

Just highlight the spoilers to see what they say.

On 3/7/2018 at 0:03 PM, Calderis said:

The issue there, is that had Dalinar not been a Radiant, Oathbringer would never have been "alive" enough to recognize the good in him. The screaming doesn't happen unless they're touched by someone with a Nahel bond. 

For most dead blades, they aren't alive enough to think about the human their bonded too, let alone recognize the difference between the ways they act. 

Are you saying then, that you think Adolin will be a radiant soon too?

I think all there is to this is that she's beginning to see Adolin's good, as opposed to the prejudice against all humans that spren have. Had Dalinar not been a radiant himself, I suspect a similar thing would be happening between him and Oathbringer.

I was just reading about the Unmade and it occurred to me that the Nightwatcher is a very odd spren. Not unlike the Unmade. Then I remembered a quote from Hessi's Mythica, which says that there were rumored to be ten unmade. But maybe there were ten made, but only nine of them were unmade. Now obviously there are some holes, but give me a chance to give the evidence supporting this theory. Obviously, watch out for spoilers. For one thing, Sja-anat says to Shallan in the oathgate room at Kholinar that the Unmade were "made, then we were unmade." It is implied that Odium made and unmade them. But wouldn't it make more sense that they were first made to combat Odium, then Odium 'unmade' them and used them for his own purposes? What if Honor made five of these spren, and Cultivation made the other five, including the Nightwatcher. It makes some sense; everything in these books seems to come in tens. Ten Heralds, ten orders, ten Silver Kingdoms, ten surges, even ten fools! Maybe ten unmade? But Odium couldn't catch the Nightwatcher. Cultivation is protecting her on that little island, perhaps she used her skill in future sight to make sure Odium didn't get ten unmade. Maybe ten is the 'most magically powerful number,' like seven is in Harry Potter.

Now let's talk about the holes. Really there isn't enough information on the Unmade available to prove or disprove this yet, but there are problems. First of all, it's unlikely that Odium doesn't have access to the Nightwatcher. Everyone knows about her, and most know how to get there. If Odium thought she would be at all useful to him, the he would've gone after her. There, he would've discovered Cultivation just waiting to be splintered. Secondly, it's very probable that the Nightwatcher is a sort of 'heir' to Cultivation, much as the Stormfather is to Honor. The Stormfather says that he existed before Honor was defeated, so Cultivation doesn't have to be splintered to make such an intelligent and powerful spren. Indeed, when Dalinar visits the Nightwatcher, Cultivation makes it clear that she created her. (I listen to the audiobooks so I can't give references. sorry.) Maybe the author of Hessi's Mythica was wrong and there really are only nine, or more likely, the tenth unmade is a currently unknown spren.

Tell me what you think. Point out holes I didn't notice, provide evidence I didn't think of. As much as I'd like to be, I'm not the most well-versed in the cosmere books or popular theories.

On 3/3/2018 at 8:07 PM, Nathrangking said:

Granted. You now have a friend who can read the whole word cosmere but not any other. 

I call upon the powers of the Nightwatcher to fulfill my boon. I wish to be an expert in every known language.

Sure. Just now you have a lisp so bad that no one can understand you.

For my boon, I ask to be turned into a Mistborn. (I'd ask to be a radiant, but none of those powers seem like they'd be useful in my everyday life. Also I don't have a way of getting stormlight.)

On 10/3/2017 at 10:37 PM, eveorjoy said:

 

That's funny and all, but we know that (spoiler alert) Dalinar didn't get anything from the Nightwatcher. Everything he assumed was from the Nightwatcher was given to (or taken from) him by Cultivation herself.

21 hours ago, RShara said:

Now that we're in the right forum, what books have you read, so that we don't spoil ya?

Who, me? Okay. I've read all the Stormlight Archive stuff, including Edgedancer, I read Warbreaker and Mistborn 1. Right now I'm working on Mistborn 2 and next in line is Elantris. I still haven't read any White Sand books or Nightblood. Anything I didn't name here, assume I haven't read. 

btw Thanks for answering that question. I wasn't the first to spot that, but Brandon himself said it's a good question, so that's a victory.

I was just listening to Well of Ascension, and I noticed this little problem: (spoiler alert)

As I said, I'm listening to it, so I can't give a page number, but it's a bit more than half way through.

11 minutes ago, RShara said:

This really needs to be moved into Cosmere theories with an OB spoiler tag

Well I'd love to do that, but as I'm sure you can tell, I'm very new to this and haven't figured out quite how to navigate the forum, much less move around content between subsections.

Mine said I was a Willshaper, but only with a 56% match. 53% was Dustbringer, and Skybreaker was third with 31%. I'm a little disappointed, to be honest. I expected to be a Stoneward more than 22%. Everything it says about Stonewards are things I associate with myself. People can incorrectly judge themselves, I guess, but I stand by my Stonewardfulness.

I love Stormlight! The Way of Kings was the first Sanderson book I read, and it's still my favorite series in the cosmere. Mistborn is a close second place though. Who's your favorite character? Mine was Jasnah until I read Oathbringer. Now it's Szeth.

Also, while I was looking at the ten essences, I remembered that Hoid was once "named for a rock." Specifically, a topaz. The divine attributes of topaz are dependability and resourcefulness. While I can't speak for Hoid's dependability, he is certainly resourceful. The herald associated with topaz is Talenel, and if you recall, Hoid was present when Taln returned from Braize. How much of this is relevant? Please tell me what you think, and point out any other things you think are interesting.

Here I want to discuss coincidences (that meaning potential connections) you notice about the cosmere. For example, could "Kelek's breath" have anything to do with awakening? Please post anything you notice that you think deserves some looking into. I'll start off with the question I already gave: Why is "Kelek's breath" a saying? Is it because he came to Roshar from Nalthis, like Vasher did, or could it be something else, or is it just a saying? "Ash's eyes" means very little, as far as I can tell. Oh, and please warn of any spoilers, because I still haven't finished Well of Ascension and I'm one of those people who doesn't want anything spoiled.

PS. Just to save you a bit of research (or a lot of looking like an idiot), it doesn't have anything to do with the ten essences. (https://coppermind.net/wiki/Ten_Essences) You'll see that Shalash is associated with garnet, whose body focus is blood, not eyes. Kalak is associated with Amethyst, the nails.

Allomancy is hereditary, and is passed down by the noblemen. By integrating the noblemen and the skaa, the Lord Ruler would've given his peasants power. You've seen how many skaa mistings there are even with the Lord Ruler's laws about killing the skaa women. If skaa and noblemen were integrated, the rebellions would still probably not get much done, but they would do way more damage.

I had to write a few poems for school, and though "Why not make keteks?" They're based on a chapter in Cry, the Beloved Country, not anything about Brandon Sanderson. I'm pretty proud of these, considering the amount of time I spent on them.

Service in church, come all bereft, all come, church in service.

Speaking, people shake hands, funeral, hands shake, people speaking.

Myself forgotten, I sincerely listen. Sincerely, I forgot myself.

"Look," they said. "Is it death?" It is said. They look.

Just remember. Doesn't seem able. Seemingly doesn't remember justice.

Struggle: Christianity of men versus men of Christ struggling