The Young Pyromancer

I don't understand. Was that an attempted tag?

I like how your post just repeats stuff that other people have said. Several people think Karnage is fishy, and Straw and Sart are two other frontrunners currently. Your post is just trying to blend in by restating popular opinions, which is a very suspicious tactic for someone not under a lot of pressure.

Thanks. Also, for people who don't get the joke, 108 is the 'arbitrary number' in japan, which doesn't have a good cultural equivalent here. Think like 13, except neutral instead of unlucky.

Check again. I don't know about the rest of your list, but I'm actually neutral on straw. Yeah, he was after me for a bit, but he actually explained what he wanted me to do. He's been consistent, which is my big concern with Karnage, and he's explained what he wants me to do instead of just saying he's suspicious of me, unlike Orlok. He's good enough that it could all be fake, and there are some other problems with him, but right now lots of others are worse IMO.

...damnation. Thought that was a good idea. I still have my PM. Anyone want to talk to me more privately? I don't really know what to do with it right now.

So I've been thinking, and I had an idea. This is for all the extortionists out there. When you extort somebody, target the constable kill action. As only one elim can perform the kill, and this ability FORCES the player to use that action, it might cancel out the original kill for the new one. So, if you go around redirecting people to others the village is suspicious of, you might be able to control the night kill and make it hit someone that doesn't make us lose as much when they die. Then, if we keep that elim alive, we can mostly control both the night and day kills (excluding bleeder and barkeeps), thus winning the game. However, this might not work if the elims have an extortionist as well, since I don't know how multiple redirects interact. @A Joe in the Bush, could you please tell me how this would work?

I mean, my first game I tricked several people into seriously analyzing whether I was an alt account made by an older player, so if that's doable, then the reverse should be possible as well.

I don't think they trust in their analysis enough, and so are just going with what more experienced players say are the right things to do. I did that in one of my earliest games. I'm suspicious of them too, but Karnage's worse, and more likely to generate some information on death. If they're an elim, maybe the whole 'team' thing could have been an attempt to connect Sart and Xilo because Sart was getting voted on and they wanted to make Xilo look innocent/guilty (depending on which way Sart flipped). That's the only real explanation for their actions I can think of.

Karnage's posts seem like they're just saying whatever they need to for the moment, not justifying themselves, but coming up with excuses for their contradictions after the fact. Just Orlok I think.

And yet you were just talking about how Poke Votes are useful. Emi Karnage. It feels like you're just saying whatever'll keep you alive longer, not caring about remaining consistent or having an actual point.

It's fine. Straw just want to know who you're suspicious of, and I was advised to be more aggressive. So, I'm voting for you.

Apparently they don't, if they wanted to retract their vote completely.

You've been posting small replies, with the few actual analysis posts being largely incomprehensible. I'm still a little suspicious about Elkanah, but I think Emi is a lot more suspicious right now. Re the Straw/Xino team, I think that's unlikely. Straw has been suspicious of me, but he's been relatively clear in his intentions. Orlock has not told me what he wants me to do, or how lynching me could help the village. I think Orlock's actually more suspicious than straw right now, and like others have said, lynching active players sets a bad precedent. Xino has been a little off, but he still seems pretty clear to me. I'm not really seeing the connection between them, as waiting a bit to vote on someone while you think over their decisions is something I do all the time.

Yeah, God King made no sense there. I agree. If they weren't on much for a legitimate reason, they would have said so. Instead they were random. That implies an intentional lurker to me.

Yeah, we do. When removing a vote, you gotta vote on someone else.

Which is why I considered posting less in the first place. As for my new vote, @Elkanah seems to be posting a lot but not saying much. Since I have to vote for someone else, Straw Elkanah

Sorry, I missed that. With Straw, he probably forgot, but better than nothing I guess. I'll change it when Straw changes/provides a reason. Straw.

Wilson being weird makes it hard to read her, but I think that's the point? You gotta wonder if she'd write like that in the Elim doc too though. Matrim's dice seems a little weird. They've been just asking a lot of questions, and after the miscommunication with the player list was resolved, they left their vote on you, which seemed illogical to me. Karnage's post didn't really make sense, even as an elim/sk. That means it's probably forgetting the elims have a doc or something? Soft village read. You and Orlock seem to be making a big deal of me trying to play differently, and seem to think that is a big sign that I'm an elim. If I was smart enough to warn you I was trying to play differently, I'd probably be smart enough to try to play like my normal. As I don't have any experience elimming, I'd probably play as normal as I could, and not shift my playstyle all of a sudden. That would be kinda silly. You seem to be being more reasonable about it than Orlock is, so I'm a little suspicious of him, but I can't really see his motive. It's not like I'm some high profile threat you would want to push for lynching d1 as an elim. So Orlock's probably just being Orlock. So a whole bunch of nothing, mostly. I was waiting till I had something better, but you asked for it!

To be fair, I did confirm that PM's don't count as targeting the recipient in the case of the smuggler, but okay. Joe provided a possible scenario for a Gossip/Gossip, so holding two of the same role is possible. Not sure how that would work with the roles that require actions, but the possibility of stacked extra lives means that the Constables might have trouble finding Bleeder, as it could just be their target has a lot of lives as opposed to being immune to the kill. This means the Constables probably have some other way to deduce who is Bleeder, such as a scanner or Stalker. Though considering the size of the game, they probably have at least one anyways. @Straw that good enough for you?

I was referring to past games. It was said that I complain about everyone hating on me D1/N1, but that every time I have done so in the past I was village (they think). I was stating that yes, they were correct, historically every time I've complained about being popular D1 was a time when I was neutral/village. To be fair though, I've never been Mafia, so it's not like that's saying much. I'm actually disappointed that I didn't get to be something more interesting this game. I would have loved to be Bleeder, fighting against both factions with the odds stacked against me. That would have been sweet. The Constable's having to balance kills with the possibility of helping bleeder would have been fascinating to manage as well. But alas, I am neither.

Before I used to write a bunch of short, impulsive posts, which made people more suspicious, but now I'm trying to consolidate my thoughts. For example: I was reading through the roles and noticed some things. The only way to tell if there are any elims still around are Stalkers and Renowned's, and since we don't know how many there are, those roles are especially critical. I asked Joe, and PM's don't target, so Stalkers could help narrow down elims, while Renowned's are just your classic scanner. If all of those roles get killed, then there's no way to track the elims down. Renowned's are especially important, as they are the only way to tell if there's elims left if bleeder's still alive and the elim starts killing on only even hours. And TBH, Bleeder's probably going to be around for a long time, because the odds of finding them are more or less 1/30 (because you can't really find connections between them and others like you can elims). @StrikerEZ, part of it was that I just didn't understand how to do analysis back then (for example I voted on Straw at one point because they voted on someone while quoting another post, which I was confused by, and so came up with an elaborate theory on how they were in league with like 4 others). Now, as I know more, I'm trying to write fewer, but longer posts. Probably should have stated that better at the beginning.

That is true. Worst I was was neutral. The game I was survival, twice (it restarted) The faction game I played. The QF with AG rules. The other shard game. Etc.

Or the game could have fewer Elims than normal, to make us all paranoid about finding the last one. There's no way to know right now. Either way, the end of this game is probably going to get dragged out for quite a bit while we make sure that there's no one left.

101'st post! Congrats!

... WHYYYYYYYYY- *sigh* Every game I've been in people have either tried to lynch me D1 or killed me N1. Including my first game. And two versions of the same game. And I've noticed people who posted less tended to get lynched less. So I'm giving you fair warning.