The Young Pyromancer

Blocked a cycle bleeder killed, tracked going nowhere when bleeder killed, extorted with bleeder's kill and their target wasn't attacked, person proves they have two roles, neither of which are bleeder, person's scanned twice and bartender hasn't shown up, person's dead and their alignment isn't 'BLEEDER', person proves themselves as winsting, or person was inactive a cycle bleeder killed. Now obviously, some of these are harder clears than others, as it could be that C2 in fact DIDN'T have a bleeder kill and we just have a ton of bartenders, but it's a reasonable assumption. Now where this gets trickier is when bleeder starts trying to fool us...

So @Megasif, I can't lay all my cards on the table as that would guarantee an elim loss. A good 50% of the people we've cleared is because they're elims, so we can't do anything much right now. I can't even suggest a lynch target. If it looks like someone's going to be lynched who's clear/semi-clear though, I'll speak up. Thanks Wilson! That means a lot, coming from you.

Yeah. I get it. I'm just kinda sad because it's my first real SE plan that doesn't totally suck, and I think I did a pretty good job. EDIT: Flame On!

A lot of that is because logically, if they're the only person to do that, it essentially wastes there PM for that turn. And people are skitish about me because I'm an elim. If more experienced players approved of it, we could probably catch bleeder this cycle.

Still don't think you should completely disregard a good plan just because of its source. @little wilson someone's pointed that out already. I'll check to see how many people we have left to work through for bleeder in the elim doc. I think someone made an alignment table C1.

Now I'm sad because I really liked it. Fine, be that way, and have a bunch of redundant scans. See if I care.

I've come up with a whole system too, ensuring that the scan targets are different while minimizing risk. But no one wants to use it Also, Bartenders, please wait a bit to off me. If you kill me before we catch bleeder, that's pretty much game over. EDIT: You didn't answer my question.

That's what I'm trying to do, but it doesn't work if you guys don't help!

So Detess, you understand my idea?

Re: megasif, the elims have to kill a LOT of people to win. Bleeder has to kill ONE, which can't be protected by bodyguards. Who's more dangerous right now?

We thought it was a possibility. EDIT: Flame On!

Basically. We tried to get you to kill Orlok. We figured people would be less likely to immediately believe his claims if there was 2 kills, as Bleeder might have been trying to get Straw lynched.

Because we extorted you C1.

We could go through tess.

No, but the whole plan involves me/wilson not having to PM EVERY SINGLE PERSON back, as even a gossip would run out. My plan involves me to pm no one, and wilson to only PM me. Also Winsting, because you've already used your PM, convert the first letters of the first 4 words of my pm to you into alphanumerical, ignoring the first digit of any two-digit numbers. For example, T is the 20th letter, so that digit would be a 0.

Right, I realized that doesn't work, as the time stamp isn't shown exactly until way later (some times it says x hours ago), and there might be duplicates. Instead, include a 4 digit number at the beginning of your pm, chosen by RNG. I mean, @little wilson, if you don't want to do it we could skip the middleman and just use me, but I figured you wouldn't be comfortable with that. If you do want to take this game easier, I'd be happy to coordinate the village, at least until Bleeder's dead

The time the PM was sent.

That was me. Re:Coordinating scans, I can eliminate several people from Tess's list, but I'd rather not. Re:Sart, he could have been Bleeder in an IKYK type preparation. Also, I'd prefer as few people to announce their scans in thread as possible, as Bleeder would be able to just not do anything that cycle and throw all the cycle's scans in the trash, whether they're the ones scanned or not. So far, since Winsting HAS just claimed to me (please counterclaim if you're the real Winsting, as otherwise I'm trusting Bleeder here), so if anyone targets winsting with ANYTHING, it might be a scan, and thus we need to kill them right away. Stalkers, claim to Wilson. She can assign targets with Timestamps, enabling her to not have to send PMs and also generate several fake scans. If she sends me a list of her potential scans, I can eliminate several of them as either elims, or elim scan targets. Please don't block my action people, as it's a good way to find bleeder as well as a stalker. Extortionists, redirect Bleeder canidates onto the target/timestamp wilson posts directly under yours. No, the timestamps don't have to be sequential @little wilson, and sorry for putting so much work on you, it's just our best option. If anyone has any questions with my plan, please speak up. I can only hope it's not already too late.

Right, so got some help. With everything as it is, we can currently eliminate 2-5 people from the possibility of being bleeder each cycle. With all of the info I've gathered (thank you to those that PMed me!) if we coordinate it all, we could theoretically clear all the unknown players in 3/4 cycles. Sweet!

I'm also suspicious of sart because he's the only(?) person so far to think that Winston SHOULDN'T claim to me, which makes a ton of sense if they're bleeder. So, Sart. I'll get someone on checking Coda.

Good analysis Devotary!

Yeah, I agree. Sart's been setting me off all game. The Wilson thing's especially weird. Maybe Sart forgot that Wilson only claimed gossip? --- Still looking for a Winsting claim! Or maybe I've already got one? Who knows?

Right, Winsting claimed. If anyone wants to counterclaim, please do so, or else I'll assume that this person is Winsting.

Probably not a good idea in a game with a SK that I'm cooperating with you to find.

And yet when I denied it, you didn't even bother to check your work.