Azure Mouse

[OOC: Speak for yourself. Still waiting for some Alcohol here, if only a fella would share ]

[OOC: Hydrate or diedrate.]

[OOC: Only if they're Good, right? ]

[OOC: Had an awful work day Not in the mental space to do any analysis until at least tomorrow, just - hey Al you got any of the good stuff. Hook a fella up will you I need to get drunk and forget my sorrows.]

Lionhearted Threadbane, PM Keeper, Guardian of the GMs' Sanity.

[OOC: Your Opaline Prudence, the Shard Reforged, Queen of Renewal, Herald of the PM Storm? ]

Tenth of the Dusk frowned. He had been fairly certain that two voices had called for the removal of the worldhopper named by some as Sapphire Elephant. He distinctly remembered Amber Vulture arguing for Taupe Gecko's innocence relative to Sapphire Elephant's. Was this a mistake on the record, or some deliberate artifice, yet another plot from the morass that had emerged since yesterday? [OOC: @Elbereth, @little wilson - I'll @ in the GM PM and let you know there I'd prefer a thread clarification so there's less confusion since this is a voting issue tldr; is this an actual action interaction, or just oversight?] Tenth did not know. He felt out of his depth among the dangers and depravities of men. Hunting his quarry was another matter. Trapping was another matter. He fed nuts to Kaikoa, who squawked glumly. "We will find them," he vowed, quietly, to the departed Endowment. [OOC: Sigh. Sorry Beagle. I wanted an answer, and I still disagree with the play, but I feel responsible since Mercy's ability would have worked the moment you accumulated more than 2 votes. @Elbereth, @little wilson - will @ again in GM PM, but more than 2 votes, Wilson said earlier in this thread. So 2 votes alone would not trigger Mercy's protection?] One way or another, Tenth thought to himself that the worldhopper known as Taupe Gecko would have to die. There were too many coincidences. That was the problem. Either the Gecko was the most unlucky man in the Cosmere, or there was enemy action. And one way or another, it did not matter: in Tenth's eyes, cold practicality demanded the Gecko's removal by one means or another, if only to achieve clarity about the events of the past two days. If only to stop all of them from wondering, or returning to deliberate on the Gecko again, allowing others of Odium to hide in the shadows. [OOC: tldr; I'm more or less in the 'Gecko delenda est' camp now because fundamentally, I think the pragmatics demands it. I dislike acting on pragmatics too often in a SE game because that's how you get the Village agreeing to slaughter a Villager for his 'items' in LG7, but this is different enough, and Gecko has dominated the discussion for long enough - let's get the information and move on. Would prefer if Ruin's investee or someone with a kill item one-shotted Gecko for us, but oh well.]

[OOC: PruTwo, draw back your bow And let my message flow Straight to Coral Swan's heart For us, no, nobody else But us, hey, hey, hey PruTwo, please hear my cry And let my message fly Straight to Melon Dingo for us Now listen I don't want to bother you But I'm in distress There's danger of me losing All of my trollness For without your help In conversing, I'm powerless Oh, and this you can fix So, PruTwo, draw back your bow And let my message flow Straight to Scarlet Octopus for us Nobody else but us, hey, hey, hey PruTwo, please hear my cry And let my message fly Straight to Onyx Ostrich's heart for us Now, PruTwo, if your arrow Makes their inbox cry from me Well, I swear I'm Gonna talk to them until eternity I know between the both of us Their inbox, we can kill PruTwo, help me if you will So, PruTwo, draw back your bow And let my message flow Straight to Flamingo's heart for us No, nobody else but us, hey, hey, hey PruTwo, please hear my cry And let my message fly Straight to the Scorpion's heart for us N.B. PruTwo, if you don't want to die from the GMs' wrath, and especially the GMs really don't want this, I'm cool with any two from this. Honestly, I just saw the opportunity to write a song parody and went for it ]

[OOC: I'm divided. Neutering discussion in the night is not great for the Village either as we have a whole 48 hour cycle and that's quite an opportunity cost. Maybe a more fluid suspicion list would work - it splits and forces Mercy to make a call. Or we can ensure the second leading removal candidate is someone we're pretty fine with getting executed as well. Just some thoughts. (Also, I imagine it would be awful if the second removal candidate was an Elim Even if we had OC!Mercy.) For Odious Mercy (lol what a name...) - I don't know. To me, apart from Ruin being on Odium's side, many lineups are not prima facie bad, they just demand different distros to compensate for them. Given Mercy either indiscriminately hoovers actions (which could allow her to be struck by roleblocks or stray kills), and once it's known Mercy is behaving in a hostile way, the benefit of surprise is lost, and it's harder to divert the lynch in a bad way - I can't see this being particularly OP. I'm going to sleep and relook at my suspicions lists - which Gecko is definitely on - before making further comments on the suspicions front.] Text in orange highlight has been added to finish my thought.

[OOC: This. Dropped a message to the GMs to check and yes, investees are always informed that they were invested in, who it was, and what it does. Gecko should have known and the failure to bring it up hardens my suspicions.]

[OOC: Hmm. So Mercy must have really trusted Gecko - I still maintain that someone would be a fool not to see that Gecko was up for the lynch. I think the real question to me is, @Taupe Gecko, did you know of this? I assume the GMs should have informed you. If not, why not bring it up? Even if you were not believed, it is still better to have the thread consider this than not to. The results would otherwise have been: Waste a mobbing, because no one gets mobbed Someone whom no one wanted to get mobbed as badly gets mobbed (see: current scenario) Knowing we should focus on someone else would've been a lot more helpful for this. I'm puzzled as to why you wouldn't talk about it since it'd likely encourage people to back off you, and if not, it'd really be out faults.]

[OOC: Thinking through the votes again as I am a bit astonished by my vote on Oxblood Beagle (to be precise, joining Fuchsia Ostrich) as gaining as much traction. Current state of my suspicions, in general, as it's good to get it out before I drown in work again tomorrow. Apologies for the timing but I was out all day, and have only gotten the evening to sit down and think and read. Not in any particular order within each tier: Trustworthy (aka strong Village): Mostly Harmless (aka weak Village): Keep in mind that anyone in this tier can be revised, as with all the tiers. This is more a reflection of my current state of beliefs. More Bland Than Rice Noodles (aka null reads): In general; say more. Some of them appear to be crouching which could be good or bad, hard to say. Rhino and Flamingo are special cases because I have difficulty deciding, but the clock is my enemy. Is This Evil? (aka weak evil reads): This tier contains weak evil reads, and some people who should probably be a null read but that I go back and forth over. I think I will leave my vote where it is. Taupe is clearly in the lead, and I dislike last minute vote shenanigans unless I am screamingly dissatisfied with who is currently up for the mobbing - which I am not. No super strong evil reads yet, which might be a symptom of me being rushed, or not having much headspace to process today.]

[OOC:... And this is what I get for scrolling down too fast. Sorry, Oxblood Beagle did reply and I will look at everything once I get cleaned up and have had food. Akan datang.]

[OOC: Sorry for the late — actually nah. A wizard is never early or late. He arrives precisely when he means to I can confirm Opal Lion is NuPru. This is because they used their investee powers to open a PM with me. They are not on Shadesmar, spanreeds do not work this way, the PM does not have Seon authentication, and it lasts for two cycles. There is no other explanation than it being a PM that utilises Prudence's Investment Ability. It is slightly possible Opal Lion is merely the beneficiary of that PM. To which I would remark that actual NuPru seems to be surprisingly okay with this as she has remained silent thus far. I note that this doesn't confirm Opal Lion's allegiances, only that Opal Lion is Prudence. I further note that any kill on an already-shattered Shard, as per the rules, will kill the Shard, removing it from the game. In other words, if we want Prudence to stick around, best get cracking. I just got home so I'll be back to post more thoughts especially about the state of the mobbing and Oxblood Beagle's non-response and leave my final vote later.]

[OOC: Odium can't splinter them, but the GMs won't let them, either. Rules say that Shards cannot invest in other Shards, shattered or otherwise, so Preservation's investiture action wouldn't work. There are other ways to handle the situation but in general if whoever's got Pru isn't in the Rosharan system to begin with, then they're probably fine with the biggest worry being Odites having access to a non-Odite kill, e.g. redirecting Ruin's invest kill or kill items. Items maintain persistence in this game unless destroyed, and can be recharged on Roshar if a highstorm rolls through so yeah.]

Silverlight. Tenth of the Dusk never struggled with the concept of a city in the Cognitive Realm. How could he? First of the Sun had been a world testament to how men hungered to tame the wild interior, to conquer it, to subjugate it. Each year, fewer in the homeisles picked the traditional names. Fewer in the homeisles thought of the Pantheon as but territory to be mapped, to be charted, to be used. They became, bit by bit, like the Mainlanders. How could anyone have expected that humans would not seek to make their mark on the Cognitive Realm as well? Kaikoa squawked, flying overhead. Through her eyes, Tenth caught a glimpse of- There. Buildings, people. Silverlight was a crossroads, where people met. You could find many wonders in Silverlight, but the university there was Khriss's project and pride, and Tenth strongly suspected Kaddar would never have passed up a chance to pay a visit. Meanwhile, the debate raged on among the Children of Adonalsium. Tenth sighed as his spanreed teemed with messages. Voices accusing Aurora [OOC: Taupe Gecko] - Tenth was not certain as his brief interactions with Aurora had not given him reason to suspect malicious intent, and yet he would have been hesitant to say he trusted her. [OOC: The Pearl Chameleon thing is a good point, and slightly odd. At the same time, the only explanation for it that actively makes Gecko evil requires Gecko to be trying to seed the name of a teammate there, or I suppose, to bait the Village. The latter is a bit more understandable, the former seems to require we postulate Gecko is sloppy at being an Elim. This isn't impossible, but in the lack of corroboratory evidence, I would hesitate to keep at it. At the same time, my Pru PM with Gecko was short but nothing especially jumped out at me. I'd say null for Gecko, given that Gecko was still implicated in the D1 late vote train] The same came of his fellow sojourner on Sel, the worldhopper known largely by the codename Turquoise Gorilla. Tenth continued, frustratingly, to suspect the worldhopper, but his answers had cooled the raging suspicion to a nagging ember of doubt. [OOC: My gut still isn't comfortable with Turquoise Gorilla, but my head is a bit more fine with what Gorilla has been saying in thread. I'd say - wary but not on the top of my suspicions list.] Then came the suggestions of what could be done, as the Shard Prudence had not been destroyed but shattered, with the Shard passing to another among them. Was the new holder of Prudence benevolent or odious? Tenth did not know. He supposed that did not matter, for the reasons he had outlined earlier: that the real danger was disruption of critical communications infrastructure, and undue trust placed on the holder simply for being the holder of the remnants of Prudence. [OOC: I think my analysis stands. There is no especial danger associated with NuPru being Evil apart from losing critical communications infrastructure at the enemy's will, should Cultivation restore Prudence - it's just that we need to remember that being NuPru doesn't make anyone Village - that analysis has to be run independent of their Shardic status. And we need to remember that comms is dependent on NuPru, and act accordingly.] There were traps here, but most of them were not new. Quicksand here and there, but Tenth was wise to the dangers and how to navigate them. He did not see much to object to Solemnheart's missive, necessarily. It was true that Odium, for the moment, could only bring his powers to bear on those in the Rosharan system. Tenth wondered if that, too, was quicksand: what happened when the necessary inference was that those who gave a wide berth to the Rosharan system were Shard-holders? Perhaps the current attraction of Shadesmar [OOC: There are eight players alone in Shadesmar. Just what, guys, I didn't know you liked your PMs this much ] was not in fact a bad thing: it provided camouflage for the Shards among them. At the same time, Odium's power invested in his champions allowed them to freely kill those ordinary ones among them, rather than Shards. The way Tenth saw it, Solemnheart was essentially correct: barring weapons, or the use of those who could kill freely, or even deception of Ruin's investee, there was little those of Odium could do against a restored Prudence - for the moment. Once Odium broke free of the Rosharan system, however, all bets were off. [OOC: I have gone over the rules again as they confuse me more and more each time and tie my brain into pretzel knots, but I agree with Plum Rhino's analysis. Barring kill items, kill roles, or some way to use Ruin's investee (pocketing?) - I think, this one I am not sure of and am waiting for clarification!, there is little Odium can do against Prudence for the moment.] Yet, had those of Odium had access to another kill - where was it? A Shard was shattered, and someone was saved from a kill last night. It could have been anything from an actual protection, or an investee of Odium wasting a faction kill on a Shard. If it was that last option, the Shard was in danger this night. No: Tenth thought that if those of Odium had other ways of killing, those were clearly limited, and they appeared to be saving them. Or more simply: they had nothing. [OOC: Fighting words, I know - the tldr; if there was another kill, where was it? Why didn't we see it? Inference is that the kill is limited and they might be conserving it for more pesky targets, e.g. Honour camping outside of Roshar, since otherwise they have no means of killing Honour, or they have no such kill and must needs acquire one. I think I am more inclined to place higher credence on the thought they do not have one and are likely to prioritise acquiring one: we're expecting them to make a play for Honour but must expect they intend to Bear Grylls this and among other things, possibly recharge on Roshar.] Yet Tenth also did not believe that Prudence would of necessity be the chief of Odium's hatred. No, he thought: Odium's wrath was more likely to fall on those such as Honour, and Valor, but also, where it could. Odium's binding must chafe. He did not doubt it. Wild creatures always strained at their bonds. [OOC: I also do not necessarily think that Prudence will be on top of their kill list. PM powers, in my view, tend to be undervalued, including and especially (infamously?) by myself, but it's not lethal - as we can see from this Turn, people are already finding workarounds to the comm limitations. Honour, Valor, et al are more likely to be juicy/high-priority targets, assuming Odium can reach them. Ruin for pass-the-Shard potato.] Enough of that. There was a lot of chatter about a notorious gossip by the codename of Oxblood Beagle who was attempting to solicit Autonomy, and general strategising concerning Autonomy. Tenth was not against the idea of Ruin helping out, as Konion [OOC: Fuchsia Ostrich] had suggested. If the Shard assented - it was an interesting and audacious plan - though it was known Ruin needed to visit a world twice in order to destroy it, which meant that Ruin would have to brave Odium's wrath three times. Everything changed, however, when the Odium Nation attacked. However, things would change if Odium were unleashed to send his hatred against the rest of the Shardworlds. Either way, it was an issue for later on: an audacious plan, perhaps, but moot for the current moment. Their focus was better spent on the mobbing and the identification of the enemy, rather than one who had his own tasks to fulfil. [OOC: I'm generally not for focusing too much on the neutrals at this juncture - they have their own wincons, and short of seeing an active alliance with the Elims, I'm happy to let them do their own thing while we do ours. If we're in contact with them and ally, sure, that's great, and we can plan to help each other out, but until then, I think we're better off looking for the Odites and being chill.] Beagle, though. It troubled Tenth a little, though he admitted Beagle had not been vocal on the first day either. Beagle had mentioned they were busy with other tasks, which Tenth supposed was fair. He could not hold having a life against those among them. At the same time, what Beagle was doing rubbed Tenth the wrong way a little. Part of it was that he wanted to hear Beagle's side of the story, for it disturbed him that Beagle was not responding to Konion. On the other hand, he could not see how one so keen to make contact with Autonomy, attempting to publicly narrow down on Autonomy's identity, and intent on preventing Autonomy from working with the "wrong side" - if Ostrich was reporting reliably - could be of Adonalsium. Why would one of Adonalsium focus so intently on Autonomy, much less approach Autonomy in such a manner? [OOC: I admit it's kind of gut on this one, and I've gotten into a screaming match with a Village-aligned Orlok over this during the Fires of Elantris. So with that caveat - I don't really see why a Villager would employ this particular method of approach. I feel as though Elims are more likely to see Autonomy as a potential stumbling block, given roleblocks could lay down a world of hurt, and privately trying to corner/out Autonomy but also trying to forestall an Autonomy with an alliance with another faction just doesn't read right to me. The framing also seems off, because I'd think a Villager would be more win-con focused and Autonomy is orthogonal to that.]

[OOC: I was hoping to RP, but as I have to hop off shortly to something, I'm going to have to make do with some brief notes. @Violet Axolotl: Some of what you say still doesn't check out, and I'm still wary of the game you're playing, but as a fellow paranoid, you can probably see why I'm paranoid too. Saying you're paranoid the Odites and Odium will kill you suggests you think there is something about you that makes you an especially tempting target. At the same time, I lean slightly Village on you so there's no point in having this fight out here right now. Violet Axolotl. @Turquoise Gorilla: Yes - I mentioned in thread earlier it was a stab vote, but in the context of your question, that's a potayto-potahto difference. Essentially I just wanted Iguana to say something more than just RP. I could easily have picked someone else in that context, e.g. Pearl Chameleon, Cream Tuatara, but RNGesus selected Iguana so I went with Iguana. Disagree with @Magenta Albatross's idea for reasons already mentioned by others and will not belabour the point - I just want to add that the large assumption (which I believe to be correct) is that Ruin is unlikely to be Elim controlled, but should they ever get their hands on Ruin, concentration in numbers is going to be painful for us. Since the cycle is youngish and I have to leave in around five minutes, I'll hit up Cream Tuatara. Thoughts on what's going on, friend?]

[OOC: Prudence was shattered, I'm afraid. No more PMs, and I've burned mine with Sapphire Elephant.]

[OOC: I don't know. I think if Odium did mean to hit Prudence, then either Prudence had poor opsec (which I doubt, given our PM), or - which is more likely - some kind of leak and whatever Violet Axolotl was referring to, went down on Roshar. Odium probably wants to hit Honour asap or get Roshar nuked, but failing which, a definite Shard and a way to take down Village communications is a good move. No reason not to go for it. But assume that Odium did not. Assume Odium hit more or less randomly. Then Odium had a 1/8 chance - since 9 in Rosharan system, minus 1 because Mauve Crocodile is dead. Minus another 1 if Odium didn't want to try messing with Violet Axolotl, assuming VA is good - which I lean a little towards but I am a paranoid chullson and much does not make sense and I am not willing to rely on one cycle's worth of judgements, so. Minus yet another 1 if VA is correct about SK also being in the Rosharan system - 1/6 odds of randomly hitting Pru. I'm not willing to assume unless more info. I think it's good to keep in mind both possibilities. 1/6 isn't awful odds. It's a dice roll. Yes, but my point is that it's also often sometimes the prelude to Elims trying the big Village trust route. Getting V proteccs on Elim can be pretty nasty for V, especially if one-shots are burned, though El has just informed me oneshots won't burn that way, so I am relieved. I don't have enough info on which scenario this is, so I am paranoid, and it usually tends to trip my paranoia flags all the same when it happens unremarked and there is no corroborating information on it at all.]

[OOC: 50-50; I'm always a little suspicious of protection requests that seem to come out of nowhere, especially since someone else on Roshar was killed, and Mint Heron suggested they had no idea about whatever was going down on Roshar. I'm waiting for clarification from the GMs on the issue as well, as my current sense is that the move could coax one-shot protection item people into burning items unnecessarily, or drawing protection away. (Since they're not Edgedancers.) Could be trust issues - I've gotten yelled at by Wilson for paranoia more times than you can shake a stick at - but it's something that bothers me anyway. Something about the scenario you were setting up also made little sense to me: you mentioned fearing Odium as well as Odites, and expected an Odium attack as well as an investee attack. But you can't protect from an Odium attack, or well, you can, but the Shard is shattered, and passes on, so it's not a complete wash, but even then. Minor roles also have no reason to fear Odium, since it just is written up as an attack-protection thing, so that reads to me like a tacit claim. (I didn't really want to say it this explicitly but soddit, because Evil is definitely going to be very familiar with their own abilities.) But Mint Heron also said nothing of that sort went down on Roshar. No one made any claims. Now, it's possible Mint Heron distrusted me, but apart from that, I'm not going to assume other reasons for lying, as Mint Heron is CoA. Mint Heron also did say they felt you were setting up some kind of chaotic bait play, and my other running theory was an alerter type ploy. Essentially, yes. I want to make sense of the situation because nothing about it makes sense, but while I don't find you outright mobbably suspicious, I don't exactly trust you either. And I like to sometimes back questions I'm serious about with mobbing votes just to make it clear I'm mildly suspicious and would really like an answer, and to see how others feel about the issue. We have 48 hours - if anything, it would be laughably sad for me to have decided who I want to get mobbed today when the sun is barely in the sky.]

[OOC: Oof. I was posting a reply last Turn but I d/ced and then when I got back on, Wilson closed the cycle, so whoops. I am increasingly interested in what went down on Roshar, especially given Violet Axolotl's shenanigans, someone getting attacked, and Prudence getting hit by Odium's Shardic ability. Either there was a leak on Roshar, or Odium decided to take his chances with the running list of people in the Rosharan system. Assuming a distribution of 3 per Shardworld (3x9 = 27), Odium had a 1/8 chance of hitting Prudence. And Violet Axolotl seemed to think Mint Heron's (whom we now know was Prudence) alignment reflected on Taupe Gecko's alignment and vice versa. I'd like to know why as in our conversation together, Mint Heron professed to be unclear of why there was a connection. Violet Axolotl, care to share with the class? With regard to the issue: @Sapphire Elephant that's the short of it, yes. I don't disagree with your reasoning but I find one particular inference to be just strange, coupled with your voting behaviour. That's what has me side-eying you. Understood about the vote tracking - apologies then On your Prudence point - mentioned it briefly in Sel D1 but I just didn't see the point in saying too much about it. Okay, so suppose Pru is evil. So what? Suppose Pru sets you up with a PM with an Odite. Uh, isn't that the usual risk in a SE game anyway? Your reads can be wrong, and you can accidentally request a PM with an Evil player. I don't really see this being a significant issue except to realise that you shouldn't blindly trust people you PM anyway which is...nothing really new in SE. Pru can't eavesdrop on PMs either. The real issue with Pru being potentially Evil was overreliance on Pru's PMs as Pru was capable of shutting off that - so like a critical infrastructure attack, which could've been pretty scary. (And yes, I recognise the irony of having typed that and then d/cing and coming back to realise Pru is dead...) The real issue was not automatically assuming the alignment of any Shard that isn't delineated in the rules, and logic says that Ruin probably isn't starting Evil, but apart from that... Anyway, I'll open a PM with you. (I'm currently with six others on Shadesmar.) I still think saying it publicly in-thread is bad for the Village and so I won't, but I don't think it really matters to say it in a PM, on the off-chance you're Village. And if you're Evil, telling you isn't exactly harmful either. And if you do publicise it in thread in a harmful way, then I'll have a clearer idea of your allegiances and intentions. Doesn't seem a bad deal to me.]

[OOC: 1. Basically, your reasoning has one logical conclusion that I consider more likely. (I'm happy to talk about it more in a PM - I'm more hesitant about revealing it in thread immediately as I worry it might have certain negative implications for the Village.) Your veering off it reads almost as though you were eager to find a reason to focus one anyone not Crocodile. This might be consistent with being a Villager not wanting to narrow down discussion - I've mentioned in a PM with another player that neither of us were really thrilled by how much discussion had narrowed. But combined with veering off Crocodile, I'm a bit more suspicious it reeks of an Eliminator trying to find a reason to get off the train. The shift I'm talking about is the pivot away from Conclusion A to zoom in on Conclusion B. That I am more concerned by. This is the sum of why I'm suspicious of you: a combination of what your voting actually was, and where your reasoning, in my view, really should lead to. I could've given my opinion publicly for sure, so I agree with that - I've certainly been clearer about my view of the two trains in PMs. It's not been a good workweek for me so I haven't had the energy for in-depth analysis. (I'm not a fan of compulsory blue text but am happy to do it on demand. I've been sleeping at 4AM getting workdrek done alas ) I think I've implied strongly but could probably have said it more forcefully that I felt it was an overreaction to something Kangaroo said, so there was a certain element of "Kay, if you guys really want to dig that rut...don't let me stop you?" I couldn't decide if it was Village-on-Village action or a Villager-Eliminator train, but I've always been mildly supportive of D1 lynches. Not removing my vote from Iguana and why I voted on Iguana is a different matter I would agree looking at disengaged players is still good because an Elim team will display a variety of profiles and an overall team profile, so Beagle, Tuatara, and Octopus do come to mind as people I'd like to hear more from. I think the dismissiveness to me was basically 'kay Mouse voted twice, why the hell would you need to do that.' Me: 'Okay, so maybe because...my vote keeps getting ignored all game? GMs, why have you abandoned me ' It's not like I did it uselessly, and I do definitely feel a bit salty about getting told it's weird after I've been missed in every single freaking public vote count. Edited to add: I also did want to make it clear since I figured it was best to forestall people going ??? why is there a vote on Iguana???? on rollover.]

Tenth of the Dusk frowned. His thoughts about the events on the first day did not sharply differ with what had been said. It was always revealing, the struggle for life and against death. [OOC: Or, y'know...two highly competitive vote trains, one of which contained an Eliminator.] The fact that Siena Ashao had been of Odium, in a way, made matters simpler than if it had been two worldhoppers pitted against each other. Still, he wondered about the possibility of silent interactions. All of Patji was a never-ending struggle for life: you did not always see where the nightmaws hunted, much less heard their cried. Could there have been attempts to tamper with the integrity of the voting that had been obscured from them? The thunderous voices - this one a voice of power and starlight - had claimed that none would be told about changes to the votes they had cast. [OOC: Will not be informed if our votes were meddled with - logically, still possible we had some brief interactions that cancelled out. Wouldn't be so quick to assume. At C3 if we still see nothing, yeah, sure, the odds drop.] Tenth continued to be wary of the one they called the Gorilla. He had stated his reservations several times, though he admitted some of it was likely an insistent nagging feeling that simply could not go away. Too, he was less interested in adding his voice to what was more or less a firm consensus on the events of the first day, with voting activity later on being more subject to suspicion and scrutiny than those who had condemned the ones named Crocodile or Kangaroo early on. Survival complicated matters - it was known that the Shard was required to take part in a mobbing, and failure to do so cost the Shard dearly. Tenth did not think a Shard could go so far against its nature, any more than a deepwalker could. You did not ask the deepwalker why it devoured, after all. Privately, Tenth supposed it was none of his business, what Survival did. He was not interested in angering a Shard, not when he was already hunting a quarry more dangerous than any on Patji. [OOC: I think some of the vote analysis might be complicated by Survival's presence - if Survival had failed to vote, Survival would have lost a life and we would have been informed of it in the write-up. The lack of any of that tells me that Survival did vote, and I have further thoughts on the matter but they're not really relevant here and now.] Of those implicated in the voting, Tenth found his current attention shifting towards Elephant, Gecko, and Vulture. Minimally, all three codenamed worldhoppers had been implicated in late activity. This made them worthy of scrutiny. But further reasons? He did not know. True, Mendra [OOC: Vulture] had spoken late, but it had been in favour of executing Siena Ashao [OOC: Crocodile.] The real question was whether it had been an attempt to earn some positive reputation in the eyes of others. Part of it likely hinged on how those of Odium had decided to make a play: Tenth could see Siena urging her erstwhile collaborators to distance themselves from her, even as she sought in one last roll of the dice to save herself. Meanwhile, Gecko had pushed against the one codenamed Kangaroo, but the question that Tenth thought no one was asking was what Gecko had said he agreed with. The drunkard, known as Elephant had pulled off from Siena. Elephant had also claimed that doing so was not what one of Odium would do as he could have gained more credit from others for doing so. Tenth was not so certain of that: it came down again to how those of Odium calculated, but without an adequate profile of the team and without sufficient data, it was difficult to say what the playbook was. [OOC: I do not find myself overly convinced by 'an Odiant wouldn't play this way' per se - if I knew who the player was, I might be more or less convinced by 'this is not what I could have done when X would've been better' type arguments, barring a clear case where one route is obviously better than the other. Ultimately I think it hinges on having an effective Eliminator profile, which there just isn't enough data for right now. So conditionally - not convinced.] Edited for formatting to make OOCs stand out more for those who cry with terror at the thought of - Honour forfend! - having to read RP

[OOC: So, uh, do you want us to completely ignore it, or only start doing it after the Night ]

[OOC: I've always said you can't just up and conscript people from a completely different department into your department, Kevin! It's not the job they signed up for! That's not how it works! I applaud this decision on the part of the wise and beneficient GMs - I'd be miffed to get saddled with a job that doesn't fit the job description of the one I signed up for. No, I'm not still as bitter as crushed ibuprofen about it, and saltier than soy sauce, why do you ask? >> ]