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Everything posted by Fuchsia Ostrich
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I personally don’t see that as FUD, or at the very least no more than Zebra is doing to my slot, but to each their own ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I’m not advocating we vote them any time soon, and if v!Zebra, we’re more likely going to win before we need to consider it. But I personally don’t agree that an e!Coinshot is impossible until we have flips rather than claims. And imo arguments like “an e!Coinshot should have done this instead” don’t really work on me, since all elims have the goal of appearing as Village as possible, the most optimal play is always the one that nets the most V cred / lures the village into complacency. Had Zebra shot someone that was going to get filtered, imo, that would be suspect as all heck. IIRC one of the arguments that was used to get Heron killed was the fact they brought up a WGG in the first place, and as we all now know, Vulture was an e!Thug. I am also pretty sure the last e!Coinshot (two Beagles ago? Three?) did not use their kill until C2 for the reason Zebra is using (Hello Elan!)
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I had not known Flamingo's role and sorry Zebra but I still don't trust you BUT WHY, AMAN, SOME MIGHT ASK - Tyrian Falls has dealt with an e!CS before - Bad voting record - WGGs are a thing and they probably wouldn't have double tapped Vulture if not for Scorp - Bad PoE (seriously the shoot orders they've posted look very rand!e, from my PoV) - Demanding village consensus on Heron when I was doing everything I could to get us to finish Vulture off (inconsistent with wanting Vulture dead) - Gave an excuse for why they won't be killed going forward in spite of being a very powerful role ("elims need Zebra alive to shoot villagers") - Vibes - Apparently knew Flam was a Tineye and is trying to pin their death on me for only Leras knows why (e!me shoots Lion last night, full stop) - "Accidently" Spiked - Always anticipate the monkey wrench None of this is to say this line of thought is my first world view, or second, or probably even third, but I'm not foolish enough to write Zebra off too quickly, especially when they repeatedly keep shading me. As always, I feel I'm obviously village, but do recognize other people don't see my alignment as clearly as I do
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FTR Lion claimed Soother to me almost immediately after Heron flipped, and that caused me to start doubting e!Vulture and e!Iguana. I was planning on not sharing that w/ the class to see if any elims would jump on either wagon today, but as soon as Vulture and Tuatara flipped red, I'm no longer sure what to believe. My points on e!Iguana still stand from the previous night. Does look like blatant teammate saving even without the Soother also being elim. So sorry Iguana if you really are the unluckiest villager in the world, but imo your D3 vote record is hard to ignore. Penguin is still fine to me. I don't think D1 is as damning as Cham finds it. Especially since a villager (me) is the only reason Dragonfly died instead of Penguin. Very much feel like someone else would have intervened in some capacity. Plus, as Scorp pointed out, Penguin has done more analysis than I remember e!Penguin doing in past games. Tbh I go back and forth on Alb a lot. Tonally / gut wise, I want to say they are village, but it's not a strong read that I'm unwilling to exe them, hence my current vote. I'm also not too concerned about us MLing at this point. IMO there are 2 elims left (6 feels too much to me w/ a Spiked Thug on the team). So with enough flips this feels very winnable
