Amethyst Scorpion

I still don’t think it’s strong enough to guarantee a 5p team but w/e

Sure, but I don’t think it’s that good. An e!Thug would make a 5p team. What PM are you referencing? Pretty sure I don’t have one with you and Zebra both.

…Why? To both. Rolescanner is nowhere near powerful enough to swing the distro on its own and there’s no evidence the vulture kill wasn’t a MB, which makes sense especially with a lack of extra C1 kill.

Cham that post you quoted from me wasn’t even directed at you lol. I said at EoD that I’d wagon Kanga for their EoD votes, and Lion disagreed, but then earlier this turn they said that they didn’t like Kanga’s EoD. Hence that post. I e!read you a lot more before I IDd you :p. I’m sorry if that doesn’t matter to you but I don’t think you expect me to… not use the information I have? Like you imply that player IDs can’t be justifications for votes which I don’t particularly agree with. This game wasn’t designed with the idea that everyone remains anonymous the entire time, that’s just never how these things go. And yeah that Beagle read of Alb is exactly what you asked for and not an ID read. My e!lean of them is not based on ID. In fact none of my e!reads are based on ID.

Like PM you the top 3 or put it in thread Nvm I get it That should be applicable to everyone, if you don’t have three village reads by now what are you even doing lol @Fuchsia Ostrich Probably Beagle Lion Meerkat Though that third spot could be switched out with multiple other people, I’m just really feeling the Meerkat purity clear rn

Well yeah it wasn’t my argument, just was restating Ostrich’s. I do think there’s a good argument to be made that your obviously different play from last game makes you obviously a different alignment. Was in agreement with Mouse on that one. I wouldn’t call it a clear but it’s a read for sure

He means that Mouse argued the same point about your different play this game, but he still finds it weird that you mentioned next to nothing about Vulture the whole last turn despite your playstyle and the fact that they survived an attack. What about the fifteen times you called yourself obvtown and meta cleared

Bruh you can’t just c/p the exact argument I used two seconds ago to argue why I’m village to use as yours smh xD I mean, the divergence is plenty there imo. The question becomes whether you think that’s reliable.

Not sure how you think you can gauge my reaction to your test when I knew it was a test but okay lol So you changed your mind about disagreeing with my re: Kanga’s EoD votes? That would be quite ironic considering Dingo’s inactivity death lol but yeah possible. Most of my Iguana v read is based on my ID read. They’re playing very differently from their recent e game. But I’ll concede they haven’t played villagery exactly and I think they’re a good enough player to shift that if they wanted to. Agreed here.

Looking forward to if you get to that. I’ve played badly but I am objectively a bad villager so that’s just normal ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ The biggest point I have in my own favor is that I was Mouse’s strongest village read which I have never managed as elim for more than half a turn but I get how that doesn’t matter coming from me.

This is literally it: Which admittedly could strengthen Ostrich’s e!Ig read depending on how you see it

Nah nah that’s actually clutch I’m ignoring the three village deaths for now because I don’t want to talk about it but Dingo bailed us out and this reflects quite badly on Vulture I want to sus Ostrich for overstating their anti Heron push but I feel like that’s just a remnant of the player behind the anon. Ostrich, can you explain why you e read Ig? I’ve found their slot to be quite towny throughout the game

Yeah sorry I lost all will to try this turn will reset for the night :p.

Amber Vulture Sigh

Also yeah I’d be fine with a flash Kanga wagon after their eod votes but I’m not moving first cause I’m a coward youd trust the word of someone to decide an exe this close rn? Why this sequence? @Opal Lion

Because I don’t really read Vulture as evil and I don’t know enough about the distro to say whether an e!Thug makes sense At this point it’d be because you keep asking this ngl

Tie is fine except for I'm 99% elims have manip because yeah seems about right

I consider myself to be like the originator of the suspicion on you, if not today's train. You being inactive with the train on you I don't think is a reason there are elims on it. It just means you weren't able to change anyone's mind because you were afk. Penguin I think is v. Though the argument that we should flip them as the last D1 train exists. Penguin beat me to saying it but I can vote you again if you want :P. Essentially they're in my pile of nulls who have disappeared recently and haven't done anything that makes me think they're village. Zebra is personally one of my more solid village reads atm. And this is false as Cham has claimed Thug in various PMs since D1. I'm pretty sure performative effort is why people were voting you lol I don't necessarily agree with that And that's because you don't have Cham's ID

Please kill Vulture today, I just don't want to vote them myself please have that make sense

That's funny to me because I was agreeing with you when I said that :P. I feel like there's been ample resistance the last few pages but granted it's all been from people I feel okay about. Not quoting Cham's response to me cause they're titled but basically: There were multiple ways for them to abort the gambit without also outing their role I never said that claiming Thug was evil (and frankly the fact they're saying I did is bonkers as I've known their role since literal C1), what I said was that I don't think 2 v!Thugs is out of the question but 3 would be weird. At this point I'm too over you self voting and all of that all the time to bother with the IM /shrug maybe a poor choice but whatever Cham is strictly impossible for me to read because the erraticness is NAI. And I really don't want to waste two exes on them if they're village! So here we are. Points for e!them: They supported Falcon's PM gambit C1 in the Mouse/Falcon/Cham/me PM, right up until it happened where they manifested a bunch of reasons why it *could* fail. Yet, they were extremely trigger-happy with this (worse) gambit. None of their suspicions seem to have any predetermined thought or backstory, they all look like they're spur-of-the-moment-see-what-sticks Points for v!them: Both above points could just be NAI (bad reason) Their emotion feels real (which doesn't necessarily mean village) However I think the tilting is more villagery I think I'd like to ignore them entirely until we've killed all but one elim tbh This is the main problem with this game. And with SE. And why I like extremely strict filters. I'd vote Alb tbh. Over Kanga at least. But if they died I'd be fine as well. They claim they turned their cloud off. But whether we believe them is a different argument. They've been so in their own world read-wise I don't know what to think. I would case you but at this point it would be halfhearted because I'm pretty sure I'm going to change my vote again. Idk why e!you writes that much about Cham. Like you're kinda just PoE at this point, I have some thoughts about your reads lists being weird with some of them looking like they're going against thread consensus for credit and then suddenly 180ing to being in line with consensus but I really don't care anymore ninjad by everything on page 11 Heron Albatross I'm so done with this day >>

I knew it was a gambit the whole time because Cham claimed Thug to me (+Mouse and Falcon) N1. So I stand by it entirely. My issue with Cham is that they are undeniably playing anti-village, but for them that’s entirely NAI.

4. If the objective was to get the elims to hit you, why did you just ruin that objective by outing yourself? 6. I would like reasons on all of these. 8. My answer is because either you want to draw out the real MB (presumably the one who shot Vulture) or just as cover for yourself but tbh this whole convoluted thing is probably my main reason I would v read you. Why in your mind is the only way you’re evil if you’re not a Thug and did indeed get scanned that makes no sense??? Like, yes I vouch that you had this plan, but that doesn’t mean I trust you. I don’t necessarily agree that two village thugs doesn’t make sense though. If there’s a third I’d be far more suspect. Like. On one hand I think you claiming thug openly is clearly elimmy because no optimal villager would do that but on the other I get the feeling that you aren’t playing optimally regardless of anything ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ as evidenced by your freaking self vote can you stop doing that like actually >> also @Pearl Chameleon Beagle was asking why you shot down Falcon’s PM scheme idea D1 but were so quick to do this. Like I have no clue who I end up on today but I can’t shake the feeling Cham will will just flip v and vulture would flip v and idk what to do I might just flip a coin WHY does meerkat tow the twtbaw line so perfectly mouse come baaaaaaaaaack Heron

Okay back to Cham They were just so sure that Meerkat was “lock elim” going to the point of referring to that read as “outing them” and now they don’t even care anymore Definitely reeks of desperation. They’re voting randomly and seeing what sticks

I guess. But it wasn’t like I brought up Hyena out of nowhere. I’d clearly established my feelings of them from early on in the game. Cham Ugh who to even vote Vulture

Still going to go over stuff today but Cham for wagonomics