Krios

@Fourth Of The Night I think soulcasting a person is something like a battle of wills. So Jasnah, a very mind over matter woman, could easliy soulcast someone like the enraged Sadeas soldiers or the robbers in Karbranth. But someone like Kelsier or Marsch? Honestly I think those two would e one of the worst choices to try to soulcast in the entire cosmere. No my two cents on Kelsier vs Kaladin. First of resurrected Kelsier will destroy Kaladin with zero effort. Fullborn or something close to it are just to powerful. Steel-compounding and gold-compounding and pewter-compounding, give you so much of an edge, that you wouldnt even need atium. Lets set the stage for the fight. Location: A neutral city with some metal and some stormlight, but not something like Kredikshaw or a highstorm. Kaladin: A lot of stormlight, but nowhere near as much as in the battle of Thaylen City. Syl as a weapon, but no armour. Kaladins skill level will be the same as at the end of Oathbringer. Kelsier: 3 vials with all 16 basic metals + Atium in the quantity he had fighting the Inquisitor Bendal. Lets say 15 minutes maximum, but more like ten. A purse of coins and two glass daggers. Kaladin has superior healing, superior maneuverability and of course Syl, who can turn into anything from spears to shields. Kelsier has Atium and a wider variety of moves with all the different options metals give. Kel also is a total scumbag, while Kaladin would have to fight honourable. I dont think Kelsier would be above using a member of nobility as a human shield to protect himself from Kaladins attacks, which could endanger Kaladins Nahel bond. Also neither Kel nor Kal are stupid, so no wasting Stormlight or atium. Plus even if Atium runs out Kelsier could still use Electrum, which is the poor mans Atium. Conclusion: I think Kelsier would win, but not easily, more like his fight against Bendal. He just has too many tricks up his sleeve with Nicrosil, Chromium, Duralumin and Zinc and Brass. I really think people underestimate, what rioting and soothing could do to someone with a fragile psyche like Kaladin. Isnt there a word of Brandon, that you could use bronze to sense other magic systems? If Kel can read when Kaladin is going to lash what, he has another advantage. Also it would make it impossible for Kaladin to hide from Kelsier, while he could easily attack the Radiant from the shadows. Also Kal will constantly glow like a lightbulb, which cant be usefull in a fight. TL;DR: Kelsier wins, but barely.

Meiner Meinung nach ist das einfach eine Frechheit das Buch in 2 Teilen rauszubringen. Gut Oathbringer ist ein ganz schöner Schinken, aber bei Harry Potter ging es doch auch. Aber der wirkliche Schlag ins Gesicht sind die versetzten Veröffentlichungstermine. 6 Monate? Im Ernst? Über 50 € statt 25 wollen wir gar nicht reden. Im Grunde bleibt dir nichts anderes übrig als Englisch zu lernen, wenn du die Bücher schnell und günstiger haben möchtest.

Went with Shradspear, because there is no Shardhalberd.

I would like it, if adolin would reawaken Maya, but then turn into something completley new, because he is basically bonded to a zombie. Like something along the lines of being able to absorp investiture like a larkin or being able to absorb spren with his blade. So he could become a miniscule part of the solution for the fused.

Long live the Emperor. I'm mainly into the lore and not the tabeltop, because it is to expensive and noone around me plays it.

@Aerlion Thanks. @Yata I just assumed that spikes inside the dead inquisitor flesh wouldnt decay just like they dont decay in also dead blood. I went along the lines of retrieving the spikes from the corpses of Ruins inquisitors from the ruins of Kredikshaw.

@Aerlion I dont think, that there is a duplicate questions post already, but thats a good idea. So did you already receive your books and the answers? If not please post them, when you get them or give them to the arcanum. @Yata Well, if Kelsier cept his mistborn status, when being revived, he would only need the feruchemical powers. And the Inquisitors seemed to have the most important ones, like feruchemical gold or steel. I mean you could go without the ability to store breath, but with out healing or speed, you wouldnt want to miss out on this.

Thanks very much, I think I will go either with question 3 or 4. Did check the end of Mistborn: Secret History again and it seems they used Inquisitor spikes, so thats probably cool with Harmony.

Okay, first of thank you very much for your answers, but I think I need to clarify some of my questions. You answered 1 and 2 very well. My question 3 (the one with the contraption) referred to using a iron maiden contraption. Like you build a machine that would put all the different metal spikes through the right bindpoint at the exact same time. Like pulling a lever and then they all pierce through your victim. It should be possible to have the intent to do that, right? I mean the intent to creat one spike is: "I want to create a hemalurgic spike." So why not "I want to create 16 hemalurgic spikes." My question 4 should have come with this picture. Like this could be to different spikes, if the coils are made from to different metals. One pewter, one steel for example. Assuming you would push this through the right point with the right intent, would you create 2 spikes or just be able to steal one attribute. Question 5 is basically, if you weld to spikes together would they count as one spike or several spikes. Honestly I am trying to figure out how Kelsier became a fullborn through hemalurgy. My start point is that they used Spooks mistborn powers and harvested them at the end of his life as I dont think Harmony would just allow him to harvest random metalborns. So Im trying to figure out how they did that. Granted Kelsier could have 32 spikes, but I dont think he would expose himself to being controlled by a shard.

So Im thinking about buying a leather bound copy of mistborn and you can ask a question, with that. I am mainly interested in heamlurgy, because it seems to be the most versatile metallic art. I want to make sure, that I dont ask somethig that has already been answered. So I got some questions for the more knowledgable of you. 1. What would happen, if you use a spike made from yourself on yourself. When you have been harvested you are similiar to a drap, but worse. And a part of your power is always lost due to the law of heamlurgic decay. 2. Can you steal all or multiple allomantic or feruchemical powers using an atium spike? Since atium steals all abilities. 3. Could you steal multiple attributes with multiple spikes from the same mistborn / feruchemist at the same time? Possibly using some kind of torture contraption. 4. Could you steal several attributes through the same bindpoint? Like making some kind of coiled spike, that is infact several different spikes. Kind of like the bonfire swords in Dark Souls just from different metals. 5. I read a WoB, that reforging a hemalurgic spike would severly decrease its power. So could you weld several spikes together submerged in blood ( You can weld underwater ), that you premade to fit together? Kind of to get around the 2-spikes-and-Harmony-can-control-you-thing. Hopefully this isnt to annoying and please help me. Which one do you think I should ask? Thanks Krios

That scene is in the Hero of Ages. In the Well of Ascension the Inquisitors go to Terris and kill all the feruchemists of the synode, who had revealed themselves to govern their people. They used Hemalurgy on them to steal their powers.

Well Im still hoping for Kaladin-Shallan-Adolin threesome scene told trough Syl, Pattern and a reawakend Maya.

Just discovered this thread and wrote my own scene. Firstly I know that this is not a possible scene, but I just love the idea behind it and Kelsier is my favorite character. So I just had to include him and I played a bit with this fate.

I mainly based my theory on the letter and the coppermind. And there it says that Ambition was killed and splintered after fleeing the Threnodite system.

damnation it. I mean know that I know, I can see it. But I still get more of a Ambition than Autonomy wibe. Well Brandon is wrtitung this, which is definitley for the better.

My theory is that Ambition is the most dangerous shard and will eventually reform. But lets first examine what we know about Ambition and Shards in general. Shard come from the shattering of Adonalsium, which seems to have been a last ditch effort. The people who did it seemed really scared and that is why they did such an extreme thing as breaking a god. We know that a vessel is slowly taken over by the intent of its shard. What we know about Ambition: She was killed by Odium shortly after the Shattering of Adonalsium and atleast some shards think, that it is for the better. Now she is splintered. Ambition is defined as "an earnest desire for some type of achievement or distinction, as power, honor, fame, or wealth, and the willingness to strive for its attainment" (dictionary). So where can you go when you are already a shard of a god and extremely powerful. The only logical thing is that Ambition would at some point have tried to accumulate all the shards power and to recreate the power of Adonalsium. ( And then perhaps try to take on his opposing force, which could have catastrophic consequences. ) Which the vessels are strictly opposed too. Not only did the shatter Adonalsium in the first place, they even made a pact to settle different planets. I know that merging shards powers would result in a changed intent, but that should take an equally long time as the take over of the original intent. What makes her more dangerous than Odium is, that Rayse doesnt want to accumulate the other shards powers, he just wants to destroy them. But Ambition is splintered. And here the second letter from Oathbringer comes into play. Im just going to quote it here for ease. Cephandrius, bearer of the First Gem, You must know better than to approach us by relying upon presumption of past relationship. You have spoken to one who cannot respond. We, instead, will take your communication to us – though we know not how you located us upon this world. We are indeed intrigued, for we thought it well hidden. Insignificant among our many realms. As the waves of the sea must continue to surge, so must our will continue resolute. Alone. Did you expect anything else from us? We need not suffer the interference of another. Rayse is contained, and we care not for his prison. Indeed, we admire his initiative. Perhaps if you had approached the correct one of us with your plea, it would have found favorable audience. But we stand in the sea, pleased with our domains. Leave us alone. We also instruct that you should not return to Obrodai. We have claimed that world, and a new avatar of our being is beginning to manifest there. She is young yet, and--as a precaution--she has been instilled with an intense and overpowering dislike of you. This is all we will say at this time. If you wish more, seek these waters in person and overcome the tests we have created. Only in this will you earn our respect. So it is written by somethingwith multiple pieces ( one who cannot responed, we will take your communication to us ). The begings admire Rayses initiative, which sounds very similar to Ambition and they say, that Hoid can earn their respect through overcoming tests, which also sounds like something ambitious to undertake. Obvoiusly I believe that the splinters of Ambition are the authors of this letter. But the most interesting parts are: "A new avatar of our being is beginning to manifest" "As the waves of the seas must continue to surge, so must our will continue resolute. Alone." I think the splinters of Ambition are trying to reform the shard of Ambition with this new avatar on Obrodai and then become the only being (will) in existence. The last part is a bit out there, but I thought i would mention it. So how could Ambition reform from her splinters ( The both the original vessel of Ambition and the new avatar are female. )? I think it will probably be a mini version of Odiums fight against the over shards with one splinter of Ambition fighting the other, merging with it, until only one remains, which will merge with the avatar and become the new Shard of Ambition. I would go so far as predicting, that Ambition 2.0 will not need to overcome the vessels psyche as they specifically created her for that purpose and seem to be able to influence her. ( dislike of Hoid ) TL,DR Ambition will reform on Obrodai and cause major trouble in the cosmere. What do you think about this theory? Am I onto something or is this complete garbage?

If cryptics real feed upon lies, the one travelling / bonded with Hoid will need to work out a lot or go supersize. I think that Hoids truths will be used to reveal more about his backstory, because it will take a while until we get our hands on the books where it is told. Just so Brandon can throw us some bones.

@Fulminato If not for the WOB I would say that was for show, but how did she then soulcast like a boss during the climax of Oathbringer? I know she had unlimited stormlight, but where did she get the gems? There were a ton of spheres lying around, but I thought you would need a bigger gem for a bigger feat of soulcasting and not just the rather small moneyspheres.

I think the soul casting nerf of needing special gemstone for it applies only to people using an actual soulcaster and not Knights Radiant, who can soulcast. Neither Shallan nor Jasnah use any gem, when they soulcast. Jasnah did in WoK, but that seemed to be for show and not an actual requirement, since Shallan could soulcast the ship in WoR and Jasnah does as she pleases in Oathbringer. Personally I find the Honorblade plus Radiant power combination the most interesting, because Sezth wants to get revenge on his Shin masters and not taking the honorblades would be stupid. They could pass one around like a hot potato. @Ookla the Hatter I wasnt even thinking about Shards, because they are kind of out of everyones league.

Just finished reading Oathbringer and it really stands out how much powercreep (= always increasing strength of characters) there is. Lets have a look: 1. Kaladin can somehow windbend? I mean he did that weird thing at the end of part 1, but it is still a very minor power increase for him compared to others. 2. Shallan could be pretty useful given that, with enough stormlight, she can imitate entire armies and soulcast. 3. Jasnah is a machine. Seriously here Soulcasting seems incredibly overpowered. I mean she soulcasts some random dudes into smoke. And what about the transportation surge. It should be able to do something else than just get you to shadesmar and then not being able to get you back. Just imagine Jasnah in shardplate with her Ivorybalde teleporting and soulcasting all over the place. 4. Szeth. Okay he lost adhesion, but got divison, which seems to be way better in combat. Normally he would be bound and limited by law, but he swore to Dalinar. So Dalinar could just tell him: "Yeah. I think it is cool, when you kill this political opponent of mine" 5. Dalinar. So he is now some weird Knight Radiant, Stormfather and Honor hybrid, who can merge realms, supercharge you with stormlight and controls the frigging assassin in white. If not for Dalinars battery ability, Stormlight would be a limiting factor, but now it is not. And then there is Nale, who bonded Honorblade and is a Knight Radiant. So you could have acces to 4 surges, if you are a Knights Radiant and get your hands on an Honorblade. And does Hoid really need surgebinding powers? I mean he is probably already a full feruchemist and mistborn. Be now you could just give him the fatman from fallout. Until now I thought feruchemy was the most powerful magic in the cosmere, but now I would give it to elsecallers order. The most powerful, but not the most useful, that is still feruchemy. To be clear I dont hate it, but I am concerned that it could become a problem down the line. What do you think?

Mistborn: The Final Empire

These chapters had quite the lovecraftian or cthulhuesc feel to it with all the smoke, darkness and approximation of animals and humans. My theory on why Shallan and Renarin can sense the weirdness, but not Dalinar is the powerlevel of the spren. Both Shallan and Renarin bonded pretty normal run-of-the-mill spren. Where as Dalinar bonded the spren of the Almight, a being far more powerfull than most others. So maybe the ability to feel the unmade is similar to a beetle in a spidernet, a feeling of "I should not be here", where as Dalinar would be the human, who just sweeps away the net without noticing it.

Take it from someone with glasses, who didnt realize he needed them for about a year, if you only store a small amount of sight (I'm assuming you would become shortsighted.) you wouldnt notice. Same with health if you just store the proverbial drop in the ocean, but do this everyday for hours it will add up without too much inconvenience. Also your mention of sight gave me an idea. Imagine you eat something really delicious and you could just draw from your stored up sense of smell and taste. How much more pleasurable would that be. There are probably more applications of this .... - especially with touch and smell.

Feruchemy is my pick of choice. It is just the most versatile power. You can store breath, health, food, water, warmth for adventuring. The mental powers are awesome for most scholar activities. And with the combat abilities you can probably one-shot a full shardbearer. Use speed to get behind him and then a huge amount of strenght to flatten him. Remember Sazed killed a koloss with a single hit. Or just pull a Kaladin and stab him through the eyeslit using super speed. And the saving up stuff could be easily done during normal life. Just think about how much you can store up while bingewatching your favourite show.

I'm on board with the herald part, but I think it's Jezrien. Quote from my Oatbringer Chaper 1-3 post: Does anyone else think, that Odiums Champion could be one of the heralds, who bonded Odiums personal spren? Like Odiums version of the stormfather. It would also explain why the champion casts nine shadows as the unmade are splinters of Odium. I could imagine, that one of the heralds tried to bind Odiums spren in order to weak him, but was overpowered by Odium and is know his puppet. That, in combination with Dalinars apparent earlier addiction to the thrill, could also explain why he looks so familiar to Dalinar. I just assume that most representations (statues, paintings, ...) of the heralds are relativly accurate since Shalash is going around destroying them. My most likely candidate for this is Jezrien. For once he is the leader of the heralds and it would send quite the message, if Odium could corrupt him. Secondly he is associated with protecting and leading, which inversed would be something like destroying and dividing or betray and splinter. Then there are these two quotes: His description seems to fit the description of the champion pretty well and he appears to be ashamed, that he betrayed the world. Combined with his believe, that "better that one man should suffer than ten" he could have tried to bind Odium or atleast a part of Odium ( Isn't Odium refered to as the "broken one"? ) to save the world, but ultimately became his pawn. So what do you think?