Sir Jerric

I get a chuckle from the "Nebrask" references. Anyone recall that Brandon's from Lincoln, NE?

Do you know how tough it is to try creating wiki articles when you know that you are missing 80% of the reference materials? No? Maybe I'm just obsessive then. Here is the raw data from Chapter One. And here is the sorted version again. I think there should be a named character index page, mostly to give me a place to put information about people like Ulef. But would the index be a massive one for all of Brandon's Cosmere stories, or would there be one for each world, or each series, or each book?

Edit: You could have avoided that by waiting three more minutes. =) Thanks for the compliments. Original: As per your request, the Tresting article is no longer a "red link". Funny that you picked that item, since that was one of two items that I made pseudo-articles for already. Just for practice's sake, mind you. I figured that adding information to existing articles would be generally simpler than recreating the wheel for every page of the wiki. Feel free to look it over and offer some structural improvement items. I'm not sure that I like the "Events" heading; "Plot Summary" is probably the better choice, thinking back on Wikipedia articles on fictional things. I do plan on making a Tresting plantation at some point, though House Tresting is unlikely to go anywhere. (The current Lord inheirted land from his father. That's about all.) Someone may want to link to Tresting from the Book One Summary page. I have no plans on poking at that edit box anytime soon. Particularly since it's time to sleep.

In the interest of improving my knowledge of the Mistborn setting for use in the Mistborn Adventure Game, and ... In the pursuit of improving my writing ability by studying the work of a professional author, and ... In a desire to contribute to the 17th Shard fan community ... I am attempting to drive myself bonkers! More seriously, I have started yet another re-read of Mistborn: the Final Empire. Only this time, I am taking notes. And more notes. And a few more notes to go with them. I have only gone through the prologue at present, and I am just wondering how many references do you want me to dump into the Coppermind? Because it looks like there are many missing references and extra facts that I could start loading in there, and I'm not into chapter one yet. Also, do you want trivia bits like the first time a power is used in viewpoint and such? How about sections/pages for items like Foodstuffs of Scadrial and Life as a plantation skaa? If you want to see the data mine, take a peek in the spoiler box. Here's a sorted version. I have this broken down further, and anything I post to the Coppermind will be phrased in objective narrative voice with 'ref' tags. Thoughts or suggestions? Encouragement? Edit: Data from chapter one

Which then begs the question: how old can the thread be before it is considered necroing? Three pages deep or more? One year or more since last post? I am an amateur at wiki editing, so I will likely end up with numerous questions on that process once I start on that. =)

I suppose if I'm going to be posting in the various 17th Shard boards, I should probably make an introduction thread too. I've been an avid reader of Fantasy since the days when my dad would read us the Lord of the Rings as a bedtime story. One chapter per day. Can't wait to find out what comes next? You could always learn to read for yourself. My dad is always hunting for new books. When he recommended Elantris as one of the best books he'd found recently, I wasn't about to pass it up. After Elantris and Mistborn: the Final Empire, I was hooked, so I looked for Brandon's other projects. This was about the time that Harriet announced Brandon as the pick for finishing the Wheel of Time, which was a thrill, too. I eventually got hooked into reading annotations, listening to Writing Excuses, and browsing (lurking) on the 17th Shard. I made my account a while back (25+ hours of Time Online already? Yikes!). The Screen Name is one I use in numerous places (with or without a space), and the avatar is a little photo-manipulation I did (the robe is rather bulky to pack for a fight to Alaska). I have a Bachelor's in Computer Science from UNOmaha, but not a real job in the field yet. I might try writing novels at some point, but I'm still trying to find a solid enough conflict to support one. ----------------------------------------- Random questions of local forum etiquette: If I want to talk about the mechanics of Hemalurgy, should I start a new thread for that, or see if a thread already exists? If I want to collect the collective knowledge of the fans about the Scadrialan Era before the Lord Ruler, do I start a thread, edit or make a Coppermind wiki page, or both? Lest people think I'm only interested in Mistborn, is anyone looking into comparitive currency valuations in Roshar?

Also noted that spinning flares the cloak, so it needs to be a decently weighty cloth. No hood was referenced in the chapter. In chapter 8, Kelsier observes Vin huddling in her mistcloak, puling it close to shroud herself, yet there is still no mention of a hood. Mist cloaks appear to be hoodless.

I am in agreement with you on the phrasing "ability to recall/recollect the event". You might notice that I left out "the event" in my analysis. Your phrasing on the Ruin issue is far better than I was coming up with on short notice, so I avoided it. And thank you for the page number; that got me back to the scene far faster. I had been thinking more about the portion where Sazed is actively storing as he enters the Conventical. The ability to recall a visualization degrades very quickly, so he mentions having to store it very directly; he uses this technique on a pillar. Most of his storage during the scene is combined visual and vocal descriptions of the environment. He does vocalize a few other cues, like how the steel floor is cold underfoot. He casually discards the idea of a photo-style memorization of the writing in the basement, noting that "no man could stare at a wall of so much text, then remember the words." [pg 133, PB] It is hard to say if a Feruchemist can strip a person out of a scene, though storing the audio of a meeting should be easy enough. But would you end up storing just the audio, or would associated body language and other closely tied factors be stored as well? It is hard to define the unit size of a memory. However, would a Copper Compounder be able to burn a visual memory of the plate back into his head in such a way that he could read the words? Would this make the memory so tightly associated in his head that he couldn't forget it (without storing it again, at least), or does compounding simply increase your ability to recall the item to a level far beyond normal that will take far longer to decay? And does this distinction have any real meaning? Most likely, a compounded visual memory will be readily recalled for several years after the burn-in, while faces and conversations could last many decades after burn-in. A dramatic, emotional event would become unforgettable (it may already have been, after all). Specific burn-in durations would depend on the strength of recall at time of storage, how fast your normal decay rate for that type of memory is, and how much you use the memory afterward. For example, I naturally forget names told to me within approximately two hours, so compounding would possibly get me a few months of solid recall. As long as I am around the person at least few more times during those months (or I compound the memory again *hint*), I should not have trouble recalling the name for about a decade. On the other end of the spectrum, I recall anything I read very accurately for months or even years in some cases, so compounding fresh memories of a book's text would probably allow me to recite the book at will; I'd die of old age before it would noticeably decay.

Atium is a incredibly rare and valuable commodity, and too much so to make a good currency. Other than the god metals, the rest of the metals have the standard Earth-like rarity, distribution, and processing requirements. Iron and steel suffer significantly from oxidation and are far easier to gather for counterfeiting purposes. And just why would you want to encourage your citizens to destroy and Allomanticly burn your currency anyway?

. . . Lurker approaching . . . This is an interesting angle. If copperminds store your ability to recall, then shouldn't there be a broad application mode (like storing half your speed) wherein you store half your ability to recall, and later tap the coppermind to enhance your ability to recall everything? This has a significant problem in Ruin's ability to modify a stored memory to something you never actually memorized, while memories that remain in your head are inviolate. If you are storing only the ability to recall, then the memory is still in your head, and Ruin shouldn't be able to edit that. I would also like to point out how tinminds exhibit a different behavior than most metalminds. You cannot store your sensory abilities as a whole; just one sense per tinmind. Copperminds store any memories that you put in them, but the memory is stored as a whole unit. Now this part seems much more possible. I think Sazed's scene in WoA at the inquisitors' lair would be the closest canon reference, though I do not have it on hand at the moment.