Ghost of Tien

The line is: "Er hatte beides Elhokar überlassen, denn das hatte er als äußerst sinnvoll für Alethkar und den Krieg betrachtet." (Der Weg der Könige, page 449)

Thanks Peter! And that's what I call a bad translation... there was nothing in about a warrior... - disappointing... - so if my vocabulary wasn't that bad i'd really think about reading english books in the original language... it would be much cheaper and well, more satisfying... Anyway Hope for an answer on Odium's_Shard's question .

Well, I really had to leave, but when there was the thing about the quote, I could'nd stay from finding it: It in the chapter called "Highprince of war" (or something sounding similar, it's my translation from german to english) and it's in part two of the book ("the luminous storms" or something like this). The quote appears short before Dalinar tells Renarin that he would give a Shardblade and Shardarmor to him. It's (translation^^): "Dalinar had hard-earned a Shardblade and a Parshendi armor while the first year. He had given both to Elhokar, because he had thought it was very useful for Alethkar and the war." Edit: Well, you could say, Elhokar could have given them to one of his bodyguards or warriors, but we know that both are Kholin men - which means that they are Dalinar's men, as Elhokar has no own land and no own army, and his guard is made of Dalinar's men - so it would be more obvious, that Dalinar gave both to one of his on men (guards), to protect the king, if it wasn't for the king himself. (Well, maybe contraditing my thoughts could be the fact, that Dalinar later told Renarin, that he could give him the Shardblade and the Shardarmor, while no other Highprince gave them to the king - this thought is ambigious to my previous thought/quote, I have to admit).

I can't give you the exactly quote (as I read the book as german translation), but it is in one of the earlier Dalinar chapters after the hunt. I think it was when Dalinar told Renarin, that he would give him a Shardblade and a Shardarmor if he would win them (in opposite to the oppionion that they should be given to the most skillfull warriors), because all other Highprinces kept the ones they won, while he gave an armor and a blade, he won, to Elhokar (because he thought it would be most usefull to keep the king secure) - so no one could blame him for giving others to Renarin.

Thanks very much. Was looking on the first "most baseless parshendi theory" while you posted this. Looks both interinsting. Have to leave now, but be'll back on the morrow. I really love discussing such theories, especially in the beginning of such a series with so few information (I didn't read something else of Brandon's Cosmere works until now).

Thanks for the answer - as I said I did not find something about it with a quick search - and I'll look for this theory here (sounds interesting, nothing I would've ever guessed so far) and maybe answer later if I can contribute something. I thought that the Parshendi Shardbearer who recognized Dalinar was one of the first expediton Dalinar met, or one of the "leaders" who made the contract with Gavilar (if they were different persons).

Hi everyone, I'm new to the board and I hope I do not start an unnecessary topic but I could not find something about this with a quick search and I didn't find a thread for such small questions. So here we go: What happened after Gavilar's death to his Shardblade and his Shardarmor. From the first book it seems obvious, that Dalinar was a famous Shardbearer before Gavilar's death (while they fought for unifying Alethkar etc), so he had his own blade and armor, and Elhokar got his blade and armor from Dalinar, who won it while fighting the Parshendi - and Adolin got his from the family of his mother. I think it would have been obvious that Elhokar would have gotten the Shardblade and Shardarmor of his father, and if not him then Dalinar as the most notable general and warrior (or his brother), but this seems not to be the case. And we also know that Szeth did not take them - and it seems unlikely, that the Parshendi took them (or even had the oppurtunity to take them) - I guess they where already leaving while Gavilar died. So what happend to his Shardblade and his Shardarmor. Because this question is just a small one (maybe there's something more behind it, maybe not), I also wanted to ask if here is a thread for such small questions like on other boards, or if you maybe could open such a thread, so that not every question needs a new thread - there are a few questions floating through my mind, but this one was the most precise one.