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Nightblood might have Autonomy corruption, allowing the creation of an autonomous mind where no semblance of a mind existed prior (didn't even resemble something that looked like a sentient being, i.e. straw figurine) I think Ambition corruption is/has been happening on Sel, First there are way too many magic systems on Sel for only 2 shards to have created, Second the Devotion religions are way too focused on arrogance and ambition. When next you re-read (or listen if you are like me and do the graphic audio versions *HIGHLY RECOMMEND*) Elantris just keep the Ambition corruption in mind and you will see that MANY MANY references to Ambition on Sel occur. Does Devotion + Ambition + Dominion = Arrogance? As all three are now shattered, If one Entity manages to consume enough of the investiture to hit critical mass could they then blackhole and suck up the rest of the splintered investiture and become a triple shard?

Seems this is speaking of the death of Ym. The Murder he was involved in changed his life. His Surgebinding was his strength, but ultimately brings judgement/death upon him, then his experience ends.

Hi all you wonderful peoples. New here.. 20+ year fan of WoT, Finally pulled kicking and screaming away from the teat of Wheel of Time into the Cosmere by Brandon Sanderson's Mental Snake Charming. I am looking for a List (or looking to make a list if one doesn't exist) of the Various Power Factions on Roshar. i.e. The Sons of Honor, the Envisigers, the Ghostbloods, the Diagrammers, Possibly the Amians (both types together or seperate?), the Various WorldHoppers that don't fall into Rosharan Specific groups (17th sharders, Silverlight Archivists, etc...) Just so we have one place to track their activities, members, and possible motives. If there is one, please point it out (I tried searching, and found various comments on many different threads, but not a thread specifically about them with the info in one place), If there isn't one what should I be aware of or wary of before trying to make this topic thread?

I hope to learn more about willshapers in SA3... I hope we see one so we can learn more about them...I had wondered if Tien was a will shaper but not knowing enough about them made it really hard to "guess" what exactly their powers permitted to one so nascent as Tien would have been. But Shallan was transformative, both to her Father and her Brothers at a very young age. Shallan was the "Force that had ahold of her father" The conflict of her broken memory destabilized him as she blamed him for no good reason for the death of her mother, and he allowed it as he wanted to protect her. And this allowed voidspren a foothold in his mind, making him rage and become powerhungry and demand respect for the honorable action he and only he remembered him taking to protect his child from a Mother whom it seems was a "servant" of the Sky Breakers, which also lead Hallaran to seek them out later in in life without ever knowing that in so doing he would be called to kill his sister once she was discovered again, had he survived the assassination attempt of Amaram.

Ohh what if he isn't a foil or juxtaposition but rather a social statement of the light eyes being lower than the dark eyes and must become a squire under a former-darkeyes-now-lighteyes, but then have the social standing corrected to Darkeyes being superior and now he is the squire to the lowerclass people which would put him at the very bottom of the social class. Also Jasnah is clearly the better person to succeed the Late King Gavilar. she is older than Elhokar, clearly smarter and maybe this is why Jasnah is such a closet man-hater. But I really think that something bad happened between her and Amaram.

LOL I understand why you say that. But he is/was being considered. But personally I want him to be redeemed.

I really don't think those are truths that are hidden from Elhokar, or anyone else. If there are hidden truths it would be more along the line of "My wife was behind my father's death" or "My Wife and I plotted my Father's death, but the Parshendi beat us to it" Remember Jasnah was researching assassination attempts, and Elhokar's wife in particular.

other people seem to know when and where Brandon "sightings" happen... perhaps someone can ask "How did Gaz lose his eye?" If he RAFO's then we know it is pertinent... if he says lost in battle or plucked by a debt monger, then we know not directly pertinent.

Actually It might be that the Cryptics have rejected him as "Kaladin made the 'darkness' go away". Perhaps they have merely withdrawn till Kaladin is not near as Cryptics and Honor Spren do not get along. Or he has begun leaning towards being one of Kaladin's Squires. Or perhaps even something else, something darker, like he is leaning towards voidspren.

Have you listened to the full dramatizations of Graphic Audio? If you haven't here is the sample from Way of Kings. I have all of sanderson's cosmere work from Graphic Audio. It is stunningly fantastic. Fully voiceacted, soundeffects and theme's and music... just stellar. also look up Wayne from the second mistborn trilogy... Completely nailed the character, spot on delivery.

Hi All, new here, but I have been re-reading these books for quite a while trying to squeeze all I could from them awaiting SA3. As to Lightweavers, I think that there are two that we "Know" have cryptic spren, one is in denial/early-proto-stage (the King) and of course Shallan. There are two other good candidates, Kaladin's brother Tien, and of course Gaz. Gaz's eye whacky theory: We see Gaz glance away several times (once Kaladin mentally comments "what is he looking at? Did something move in the shadows?") And Once Shallan thinks he is turning to Spit (As he does seem to spit often and it might have been that), or he keeps seeing things out of the corner of his eye, which brings up the question, "How exactly did Gaz lose his eye?" was it in combat or did he remove it himself, or was it removed as part of a "repayment of debts incentive". At one point he lists other body parts he would have rather lost, but at no point does he make it seem that he felt he had a choice in the matter, and if it was self mutilation trying to rid himself of seeing the cryptic spren (perhaps always out of the corner of that eye?) it obviously wouldn't work, and thus he would lament the loss of the eye. Tien Lightweaver theory (others have touched on this but the evidence adds up: Tien has a notable memory, he remembers where he finds every rock. Tien is artistic, fabulous sculpter. Tien transforms Kal, every weeping removing his depression and most importantly, he transforms Kal into an excellent spearman as he knew that is what Kaladin wanted to be. When Kaladin first fights the the farmboy Jost, Kal gets suddenly and swiftly trampled, Tien was not there at the time, Kal gets up grabs the staff again and this time he feels that "Something changed in that moment", but after a few good strikes Kaladin cannot deliver a "face Smashing" blow to Josh and Josh counters before Kaladin can speak. So Kaladin hits the ground. Everyone leaves, except the one person Kaladin didn't know had arrived... Tien, and he says "How long have you been there?" This is Brandon's way of saying that the time Tien arrived is important. That something changed when Tien Arrived... Kaladin also thinks about how Shallan and Tien both brought light to their families. enough blathering on my part. I looked through the forums so I wouldn't be too repeaty but I probably failed.