ProfessorMLyon

I have a personal pet theory that Adolin is heading down this route. I feel his developing relationships with Maya, Notum, and Blended are pointing that way. No evidence other than I think it would be a very Adolin thing to do. 

Looking for a book for a friend. The way he described it to me, the man character covered is covered in magic runes. Main female character paints runes for people in the town to hang for protection. Later in the books the characters remake town roads and borders so the town itself is a giant rune. (Sounds like Elantris, but that wasn't it.)

It didn't sound familiar to me so I thought I would check the collective knowledge of this group.

Thorns have a symbolic meaning of adversity, dificulty, sorrow and sacrifice. They protect the plants they are attached to from those creatures that would eat it. We are four books into the Stormlight Archive and we still know very little about him. He has only had just a few point of view and nothing really about his history. I'm holding out that title really describes Renarin as who he is and not just Dalinar's son. 

Any thoughts, ideas, or wild conjectures what announcements are coming Wednesday and Thursday?

Did he accidentally write another book?

Will he admit that he has been tapping into some sort of Investiture to write the way he does?

Will he confirm he is Hoid and has been trolling us this entire time?

Thoughts?

Start at the 46:23 mark.

11 hours ago, Jofwu said:

In any case, at the end of Words of Radiance Shallan speaks her 2nd truth to Pattern putting them at "level 3". 

 

I am confused what truths Shallan has spoken now. What truths did she speak to get Patternblade? 

And does this mean the Blade Kaladin used in the chasms was Testament? Did he not hear Testament screaming because of the oddity of the situation or because of what was going on with him? Or was it Pattern afterall?

So many questions I have now because of this revelation.  

Just a thought: Don't dead Shardblades follow their bearer in Shadesmar? Is so, where was Testament in Oathbringer? Shouldn't she have been near Shallan as Maya was with Adolin?

Random speculation here with no proof of anything. Just an interesting idea: Perhaps what is going on with Shallan could progress Adolin along the Edgedancer path. There is a Formless personality within Shallan that seems to want to make an appearance. A personality that has been forgotten and ignored. Husband and Potentially Proto-Radiant Adolin (there's a title for you) could be the best person to remember and listen to this personality of his wife. No idea how that situation could arise, but who knows? Stranger things have happened. 

Sorry. Posted in wrong topic. That's what I get for using my phone. Carry on.

4 minutes ago, Subvisual Haze said:

I wonder why Taravangian chose to meet Dalinar on a day where his intelligence is below average?  You'd think he find an excuse to stall for a day when his morning IQ tests came back poorly.

I definitely don't think he's faking it either.  His adviser is repeatedly poking him to tell him to stop talking, and he clearly feels regret for many of the actions that he has committed (his intelligence and empathy are inversely related in his condition).

Maybe he wanted to meet Dalinar on a "high empathy" day to reconsider some of the actions that he has taken?

To me, Taravangian meeting Dalinar on a dumb day is a smart move. It's a great cover. The dumb, empathetic Mr. T is more likely to get more out of Dalinar than a keen and intelligent Mr. T. Adrotagia is there to keep him out of trouble, but is also there to listen/observe Dalinar's unguarded answers and actions. And all the while, no one suspecting Mr. T of any sort of heinous activity or future betrayal. 

I personally subscribe to the theory that she is still alive and is the one writing the words at the beginning of the chapters. People say that she is dead. Maybe a body was found, but in a world of soulcasters who is to say for sure. I have no proof. I just want it to be real to throw some sort of wrench in well laid plans. 

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“Adolin, dear,” she said, finally pulling the blanket back down to her shoulders, “I could literally survive being stabbed with a sword through the chest. I think I’ll be fine with some ruffians in the market.”

With this thought, I wonder when Shallan will start to think that Jasnah isn't as dead as she might believe.

31 minutes ago, Hafrigado said:

You have to admit, Renarin's visions are rather......dark.

Yes, yes they are. But the truth is, the future is dark. We are talking about the Last Desolation here. It isn't going to be pretty. 

17 minutes ago, Zalocx said:

My feelings are that if it is Cultivation, then why is Renarin acting so strange?

We don't know much about Truthwatchers. We know they see...something. Renarin just may not know how to say what he knows. Remember, he has other issues. And again, future sight has been labeled as bad, heresy, and evil in Alethi culture. That's a lot to overcome.

31 minutes ago, Zalocx said:

My hypothesis is that Odium is better than both of them,  perhaps one of the best out of ALL of them.

I agree. Rayse has an edge and this may be it.

As I said, we just know so little about Truthwatchers to really say one way or the other. Thanks for the discussion!

Interesting idea, but it doesn't quite feel right to me. I don't think that because you can see into the future necessarily means you've got Odium on your contact list. In Way of Kings, Honor says that Cultivation is better at seeing the future than he is.  I think that future sight comes from her. This ability has just received a bum rap because it has been associated with the Voidbringers. How do we know that is true and not some propaganda spread around by the Vorinism? 

How do we know that Shshshsh is dead? We only have the word of several characters, and if I am reading this topic right, perhaps only from Dalinar himself! If there is one thing I have learned from reading Brandon Sanderson is that you do not count anybody dead until you see the body fall down at your feet, impaled by several shardblades, with the head removed. And not even then!

Perhaps Shshshsh wasn't kidnapped at all, but either led the rebellion in the city or at least sympathized with it. Feeling betrayed, Dalinar reacts as the Blackthorn would and there is a bloodbath, scores of people dead. At the end, Dalinar believes that he has killed his wife, but she is only mostly dead and survives. Maybe she has now sworn vengeance upon the Kholinars and is working with Odium to destroy the world. 

Of course, no evidence to support such a theory, and I have no idea what she would have been doing for the last ten years. I just like speculating. 

11 minutes ago, OrangeJedi said:

I don't think anyone has mentioned the new Oathbringer preface quotes yet. 

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I did not die.

I experienced something worse.

That right there make me rethink my assumption that it was Jasnah. Who is the author of Oathbringer. Some thoughts I have now are that it might be a Herald or maybe even Honor? Or is it a main character that we have seen and nothing has changed. Who has suffered something worst that death?

My own personal theory is that the author is Shhshhh, and that she is going to bring all sorts of confusion and discord to Kholinar family when she comes out and says "Surpise! I'm not dead." Think of how awkward it would be for Navani. 

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Renarin who stood up, setting aside his blanket and cup, then walked over to put his hand on his father’s shoulder. The youth looked even more spindly than normal when standing beside Dalinar, and though his hair wasn’t as blond as Adolin’s, it was still patched with yellow. He seemed such a strange contrast to Dalinar, cut from almost entirely different cloth.

Could it be that Dalinar is not Renarin's father at all? If true, could it be a factor in Shhshhh's death? Pretty long stretch I know, and definitely without any evidence. But since we know almost next to nothing about her, it is fun to speculate. 

My library posted these questions, so I thought that I would post them here.

Who is your favorite literary love-to-hate-'em villain? 

Who is your favorite literary hate-to-love'em villain?

Pardon the thread necromancy, but for some reason I just now found this thread. Have to admit that I am surprised that no one has mentioned Robin Hobb and the books in her world of the Elderlings. FitzChivalry Farseer is by far one of my most favorite narrators. The stories are magical, humorous, and exciting. And ships that are alive...awesome!

Stay away from the Soldier Son trilogy, though. That was bad.

Kaladin flying for the first time (of course it is not so much "flying" as it is "falling with style). Totally had a Wax and Kelsier feel. Brandon really likes his characters to fly.

Wit/Kaladin/Adolin/Shallan combo "You! Me!" was hilarious. Would like to have Seen more between Wit and Shall an.

The stormfight at the end. Kaladin dropping from the sky like a blue comet with rain and thunder and mass chaos, ready to kick butt and take names. Priceless.

Oh and everything else as well.

With all that we have read from the chapter/interlude releases, it seems like spren and future Radiants are coming out the wahzoo!

So my question is, based on the Divine Attributes that Knight Radiants exhibit and the idea that there is usually some sort of struggle with one or both of the attributes, who do you think has the right stuff to be one of the lustrous heroes? Or, who do you want to be one?

I figure Moash would make a good Dustbringer since he is very Brave but I would say he definitely has to work on being Obedient. 

We know Renarin has a spren somewhere, so he might be a Just person who really needs to work on his Confidence. I foresee a future Skybreaker in the works.

I would love to see Lopen become a Radiant. Just think of all the things that would come out of his mouth! I think he has the potential for a Lightweaver. Sure he is not Creative in the same way as Shallan, but the things he says hint for me a creative mind in his words. And maybe he hasn't been quite honest with how he lost his arm or why he was sent to the bridge crews.

So who would you choose?

I apologize if this has been done before.

I was reading another topic and it was mentioned Kaladin reciting the Third Ideal during his battle with Szeth. So the thought is do you think that WoR will have the Third Ideal recited? And with no information on what the Third Ideal actually is, what situation would you like to see Kaladin in where is brought to do so?

I think it would be cool to see the Third Ideal have something to do with Kaladin's relationship with Amaram. Like "I will protect those who are idiot jerks and deserve to tarred and feathered and then driven out of town" or something similar.There is a lot of potential for him to grow into his Radianhood with this. 

I think that Shen is slaveform who will learn to be something more than he is. The one doubt I have about Shen being is a spy is that I have a hard believing the Listeners would want to have a spy among the bridge crews? It makes more sense to have spies with the Alethi highprinces and other leaders where they can go unnoticed, picking up information. A parshman among the crews stands out, and would have a hard time learning anything. Of course, not that there is much a spy could learn about Alethi strategy in the crews. Though, a spy would be in a good position to do some sabotage....

Of course, do we know why Shen was placed with the bridge crews? Maybe he got caught doing something he shouldn't have...

Hmmm.....

I am not sure if I just talked myself into changing my mind or not.

“Sure,” Lopen said from behind them. “Just go ahead and leave the Herdazian stuck to the wall. The view here is wonderful. Oh, and is that slime running down my cheek? A fresh new look for the Lopen, who cannot brush it away, because—have I mentioned?—his hand is stuck to the wall.”

Kaladin smiled, walking over. “You were the one who asked me to stick you to a wall in the first place, Lopen.”

“My other hand?” Lopen said. “The one that was cut off long ago, eaten by a fearsome beast? It is making a rude gesture toward you right now. I thought you would wish to know, so that you can prepare to be insulted.”

Lopen is awesome. He and Lift would have a great time, I believe.

Another note, when Lift mentioned her "awesomeness" I immediately thought of Wayne. Maybe she is the long-lost daughter of the Worldhopper Wayne I hope to see.