Doc12

EoD = End of Day, typically the last 1-2 hours before the cycle ends W/e= whatever Uhh. I have also reread this multiple times and come out confused. You start off with the assumption that that me and CD are evildoers. You then give two scenarios predicated on whether Hoid Slayer is an evildoer. Your first scenario invalidates your original assumption that CD is evil and substitutes Aeternum as evil. You also assume that I was trying to save CD in both scenarios. But I put CD in the tie. You're saying I 'protected' CD by putting him on the table and taking him away? Lastly, you conclude that even though you begin by assuming me and CD are evil, you're still going to vote for Hoid Slayer instead of either of us. If you are sure of your original assumption why didn't you cut out the middleman and just vote for me? This is also a lot, I don't think my analysis skills are as advanced but I'll give my best shot. You posit two scenarios, one of which all of the final 3/4 vote tie members were village, and one where at least one of the members was evil. For reference, the parties involved in the tie are Pizzaguy, Penguin, CD, Aeternum, with Worldhopper being a sudden last minute switch. One hour before rollover, the vote seemed steady, with Pizzaguy (Hoid Slayer, Penguin) and Penguin (Booknewt, Ksauce) having 2 votes each. I didn't care for either of these options. Pizzaguy, if not village, has at least been poking everyone, challenging assumptions, and giving their reads, which I appreciate enough to want to keep around, and while I stated that Penguin's switch to Pizza was suspicious, it wasn't enough to condemn him. So I consciously made it a 3 way tie by voting for CD, who many have expressed suspicion of but not voted for. In hindsight, perhaps overly harsh on a new player, but I don't really take stock in sentiments like "I think this person is acting suspicious but I'm going to take pity on them for a cycle". As stated before, I decided I was completely fine with either Penguin or CD dying because both have acted suspiciously. Both would give me some information. That's when things got really interesting. 1) Hoid Slayer pinged me asking me to show mercy to CD. 2) Aeternum expressed suspicion of CD, but given that he was a new player decided not to tie break but add another player to the tie - Worldhopper. This, to me, was interesting because Worldhopper had not really garnered any suspicion other than Unknown Order voting on Worldhopper for their random votes. And if Aeternum had wanted to spare CD, he could just as easily have voted for Pizza or Penguin. Adding a fourth player to the tie just made it seem like Aeternum was voting for the sake of being seen voting, so I switched my vote to Aeternum. 3) Hoid Slayer asks Aeternum to convince him of Worldhopper's guilt, asks me to make a vote that actually matters. Aeternum speculates that if Worldhopper is Evil, i would also be because of my vote on them. 4) An exchange I personally found very funny And that's the cycle. Going back to Pizza's first scenario, where all the candidates (Pizza, Penguin, CD, possibly Aeternum) are village, I suppose there's nothing more to read from this than villagers panicking. Aeternum didn't suspect one of Pizza, Penguin, or CD enough to vote on them directly, or supposed he might as well add Worldhopper to the mix and leave it up to chance to see who dies. Hoid Slayer just trusted his read of Penguin enough that he decided to abandon his suspicion of Pizza to at least get someone else killed. It's just interesting that the priority for Hoid Slayer wasn't as much getting someone he suspected killed as much as to save one specific player he trusted. It's also interesting that this trust isn't returned as they've been arguing this cycle. In the second scenario, where at least one of the candidates (Pizza, Penguin, CD) were evil, the sudden additional 2 votes on another candidate makes sense. Worldhopper already had one vote from before. Aeternum (who still might be village - him saying that if Worldhopper flips Elim then I would be Elim feels genuine to me) puts Worldhopper on the table, and even though Hoid Slayer explicitly says he doesn't like Aeternum's reasoning decides to vote for Worldhopper anyway purely to save Penguin. In this scenario, Hoid Slayer and Penguin are evil together. Alternatively, there's a scenario where Penguin is innocent and Hoid Slayer evil, but Hoid Slayer wanted to save someone else in the pool, knew it would be suspicious, and named a villager as the person he was trying to save in a gambit. Who knows? Greeblas, how's my reasoning?

I for one appreciate this I'm usually a PM heavy player where I'd try to post 3-4 times per cycle but ping everyone in PMs every couple hours. I also do really like your RP and will try to engage with you more this cycle. Also it's still a game where people have to accuse each other to win, I wouldn't take anything anyone says personally

Given this, who are you planning to vote for this cycle?

The Unknown One was the first vote on Worldhopper, and he's dead now. He actually voted pretty early, 6 hours before cycle end. the suspicious part is that, given a 3 way tie between CD, Penguin, and Pizza, 1) Aeternum decided to create a 4 way tie and 2)Hoid Slayer decided that he needed to save Penguin. I think the thing with ties is that while it is very possible that the elims saw 3 innocents up for death and decided to do nothing, villagers who have no information are much more likely to go 'might as well see which one dies and go from there' while elims would be much more motivated to save one person from the vote. What I noticed in that last hour is that Pizza seemed ambivalent to whether or not they died, and that Hoidslayer was very motivated to try and save Penguin, not liking when I voted for CD or Aeternum. Hoid Slayer, you have explained your reasoning of why you trust Penguin. I guess I am still confused because you said you were suspicious of Pizza still, despite them giving you clear thoughts which was what you asked for in the beginning. I am also confused why no one cared to vote for CD. I understand again that this is their first game and people want to show mercy, but to me it was weird how up to 3 people said that they were weird but refused to act on that suspicion.

Well. I think we can all agree that the Worldhopper vote came out of nowhere. The UnknownOrder poked Worldhopper early in the cycle, and then in the very last hour of the cycle Aeternum and then Hoidslayer pile onto the vote to edge out the tie. This is even though Hoid Slayer asked Aeternum to give them a reason and said they didn't like Aeternum's reason. They voted for Worldhopper anyway. Purely because they didn't want ONE player to die out of the 3. I'm actually more inclined to forgive Aeternum because TOW was a village and this seemed like they genuinely did not know, but Hoid Slayer changing their vote at the very last minute to protect a player that really had no reason to be more or less innocent than anyone else is suspicious as hell.

If you wanted a vote that actually mattered you might try voting with your stated suspicions. I understand being nice to a first time player, but does that matter? I'm voting based on behavior I find weird. You're voting pizzaguy because they weren't clear enough in their posts, even after they've given you a clarified version of their suspect list.

Amazing, a four way tie! Just for that, CoderDrag0n8 Aeternum I had hoped to stir up more discussion but I evidently left it too late in the cycle. I respect Hoidslayer and Pizzaguy's staying firm on their positions. Aeternum's vote is the most suspicious thing that could happen in light of the tie, a vote for the sake of contributing, so I'm changing my vote (Sorry Aeoryi) For the record, Pizzaguy, I've come to respect you and hope you survive this cycle.

Alright friends shall we spice things up a little? Lot of people saying they think CD is suspicious but letting it slide a little because they're new, but if I'm going to vote for an exe I'm going to vote for what is weird. CoderDrag0n8 Three way tie, ladies and gentlemen. What happens now? AskthePizzaGuy: (2) Hoid Slayer, IcedOutPenguin IcedoutPenguin: (2) Booknewt, KaladinsSenseofHumorSpren CoderDrag0n8: (2) Twinstorm, Doc12 Aeternum: (1) KelsierApologist Twinstorm: (1) CoderDrag0n8 KaladinsSenseofHumorSpren: (1) ThatOneWorldhopper ThatOneWorldhopper (1): TheUnknownOrder

Javert hated this place. Everyone was so much taller. And stranger. His weight felt off. And these things - spren - like twisting black crosses and the occasional long grey streamer kept following him around. As an individual who prided himself on his emotional control. this was unacceptable. Mon dieu he missed Paris, even Paris in the midst of a failing revolution. He missed the solid weight of his pistol. And most of all, he missed his snuff. And now, this test. Justice had promised him something Javert prized above all else. Certainty. The promise that the Law was sacred, immutable, that there was a set of codes that they could trust to govern their decisions. For so it must be, for so it is written on the doorway to Paradise/ That those who falter and those who fall must pay the price. But now they were in a situation where he didn't know who to trust, what to do. Find the Guilty. Attract a Highspren. Become Radiant. Those who follow the path of the righteous shall have their reward "Life before death," He whispers, as he did every night. La vie avant la mort. Had he already failed that, by throwing himself into the Seine? Certainty. He needed certainty. He must not falter. Put aside Paris. The life that he knew. It was gone far beyond reach. In this world... he might touch the stars. "Life before death." ------------------- Thanks TheUnknownOrder Don't quite care for how a pile is forming on IcedoutPenguin. Booknewt's poke has solid reasoning, but Ksauce just jumped on. I stand by my assertion that Penguin switching their vote when Hoidslayer and Twinstorm were complaining about Pizzaguy's RP seems a little suspicious, but not enough to condemn him yet. I do want an execution, so I'll put in another vote before the cycle ends.

Current votes AskthePizzaGuy: (2) Hoid Slayer, IcedOutPenguin Aeternum: (1) KelsierApologist Twinstorm: (1) CoderDrag0n8 TUO: (1) Doc12 KaladinsSenseofHumorSpren: (1) ThatOneWorldhopper CD (1): Twinstorm ThatOneWorldhopper (1): TheUnknownOrder Current Reads, positive to negative. @Hoid Slayer/Wishikk Makar: Positive just because of how hard they're pushing for information. What are your thoughts now that Pizzaguy has shown they're paying attention and given their thoughts? Pizzaguy/Greebas - Positive. Honestly can see why people are frustrated. It's a lot of RP, but they have posted their reads list and seem to be paying a lot of attention to thread and note taking. The refusal to vote is not helpful, but we do know where they stand and what they think, so I'm inclined to give them a pass for now. Twinstorm: mildly positive. throwing out poke votes, trying to get people to post reads. KelsierApologist / Mehlarin / Polly: Mildly positive, has been poking and trying to get people like Aeternum to talk. @The Unknown Order - Hello old friend! You seem pretty awake now that you're posting more and voting. Vote's staying on you for now until you tell me why you voted Worldhopper. ThatOneWorldhopper: Nothing right now. They vote on a dice, I've seen it before. Doesn't tell us anything. Claimed distrust of CD and Penguin. @CoderDrag0n8: Is being a little suspicious from jumping on the Striker vote, then voting on Twinstorm. As others have pointed out, seem to be voting for the sake of voting. Which is not inherently suspicious, but still mildly negative leaning. Did you get the reaction you were looking for from Twinstorm? @IcedOutPenguin: Came out strong voting for CD, then switched to Pizzaguy. Feeling a little suspicious, feels like following the crowd and switching to acceptable target. Did Pizzaguy's post satisfy you enough to change your vote? Have posted but nothing concrete: @KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren (1 RP post), @Aeternum(2 posts, mostly rule clarifications) Have not posted: @Booknewt, @StrikerEZ

“One of the lessons that you will need to learn as a Skybreaker is one of consequence. If you fail to find all of the evildoers, all of the lawbreakers within your group, they will be let free." No. Not again. Javert would make good the mistakes of his past life. There would be no escaped evildoers. Looking around at the group, Wishikk and Kaladfin seemed to be the most vocal in encouraging discussion while the others did their own thing. Men of enterprise and moment. He respected that. He also respected Richard for claiming a gut instinct on CD, even though there was essentially no foundation for it. Anyone who knows me knows two things. 1) I feel very sad about not having PMs to talk everyone's ear off 2) I hate D1 votes. No one has any information, and most of the votes are poke votes that are retracted the moment the poked says something. A bandwagon might appear, and then there's even less information on voting motives. There's also no voting manipulation, so there's no information coming from there either. Still. I acknowledge the sense in needing something to happen to actually have stuff to discuss, and if the cycle looks to be ending without much of a consensus am willing to jump votes to kill someone. I enjoy making big analysis posts, but I find it hard to find things to talk about on D1. I like Hoidslayer, Twinstorm, and Penguin a little more for trying to stir up discussion and poke votes. Pizzaguy and Polly have been posting a lot of RP, which isn't inherently suspicious, but also not particularly helpful. I don't begrudge them that, yet. so as of now we have... Striker (2): Hoidslayer, CoderDragon8 CD (1): Icedoutpenguin KelsierApologist (1): Twinstorm Ksauce (1): Thatoneworldhopper As I said, bunch of poke votes with little substance. The only thing that really jumps out to me is CD jumping on the Striker vote without a reason other than Hoidslayer's vote, but again, D1. Striker and Booknewt have not posted. Aeternum and TheUnknownOrder have popped up a bunch of times in thread but haven't contributed much either beyond a couple of rule clarifications. For now, I'm going to poke @The Unknown Order You've got no PMs to convince me of your alignment this time so you gotta speak in thread, buddy

I wrote this as a joke eight years ago but this is finally paying off

I Co-GM'd LG35

I'll join as Inspector Javert

Hands down the funniest part was that Araris was going to try the 'I'm a seeker' thing on ME And then I had to pretend I knew nothing about Araris' plan to your face. Like I said in the dead doc, it hurt that I died n2. I could have prevented the TJ lynch d3 and probably got him to protect me for the next couple of nights. prolonging the game, but alas! Apologies to Striker for sending so many PMs (my highest count was Araris with 66 messages and lowest was Sart and Walin with 8 messages which given context...), but they were my favorite part of the game

oh well Guess I was too engaged that you guys accurately pinned me as the Seeker I confess to some frustration that the Elims were pretty quiet and unengaged in the thread and that led the village to basically keep shooting themselves, but that's how the game goes. Thanks to Araris and TUO for chatting and bantering back and forth in PMs! Strategizing with you guys was my favorite part of the game!

I don't know what to say. There's really nothing to say, I suppose. There really isn't much to go on now. Ksauce started the train, but we really were all agreed that Worldhopper seemed the most suspicious.

Exhaustion. Exhaustion made sense. The world was ending, after all. They were all holed up in some caves, and there were murderers among them. And two more people had died. A child by the hands of a mob, one's throat slit in the night. A child, whose name she had never even learned. It had been such a mess. Aeo announced publicly she had found one of the killers. Mara had been suspicious, but willing to believe Aeo if the other woman would be frank about her suspicion. Aeo delighted in riddles, telling her to look for someone who 'moved without contribution' (Actual message something like "hides behind endless rp, and agenda'd person" whatever that means). Finally, Aeo had publicly accused Worldly, the strange bartender. Her boldness empowered Mara to support her, and the child, who was also up for execution, had joined them. They had a majority. But then in the press and the chaos of the soldiers arriving, one of them must have said something unintended, they were back to a tie, and the next thing she knew the child was gone and dead. And the day after, Aeo was dead. It didn't take an educated noble to figure out Mara was probably next on the list. Father. Mother. Garrick. Rin... Jessa. The child. Aeoryi. The dozen of them were still confined to the chamber, each in different corners. Mara picked herself up. Forced herself to try and make sense of the days events. Poked at The Unknown Order who still refused to share his name, but was at least willing to converse, enough that her initial suspicion was allayed. She walked around the cave, speaking to whoever would speak to her. Finally, a consensus emerged. They would try to execute The One Worldhopper again. The fact that he had weaseled out of an execution with the help of mistings made him - if not a killer himself - someone that the killers had tried to preserve. No one seemed willing to speak on their behalf. Worldly himself had not stirred. Mara didn't like this. If he was innocent, she would have to add him to her list of names. Still. They needed to know. She needed to know. EDIT TO AVOID DOUBLE POSTING Gonna be honest I feel weirded out that Worldhopper hasn't emerged and no one is defending them. Feels like a very weird cycle to have almost no discussion and just a consensus. Not disagreeing with the current result, just feel weird about it.

Uh. I'm not sure what you want me to say here mate. I revealed Aeo's suspicion after their murder? Here's Aeoryi saying they have a solid suspicion early day 1, but being cagey about it. Here's me saying that Aeoryi has strongly hinted at me who they suspect, and me saying I'd back them if they were actually going to act on their suspicion Aeoryi changes their vote I change my vote. I don't know why you think I withheld information about who Aeoryi actually suspected when Aeoryi was the first to act on their suspicion? What actually happened was just that Aeoryi claimed something, was extremely cagey about it, so I challenged her in PM and thread to actually act on said suspicion to see what she'd do.

Alright friends. Here's what I got. So things I guess I want to discuss. Recap The big thing that happened first half of Day 1 was the TJ vote. Aeoryi started the TJ vote, with the stated intent to poke an inactive. Araris jumped on it, I jumped on it, Walin and Kidpen jumped on it. Votes on TJ: 5 A lot of us were just voting to see if they'll show up or say anything. Tj showed up and put a retaliatory vote on Araris. Since he showed up, I was the first to jump off, voting on a different inactive (Biplet) Araris was the second, voting on Twinstorm because they expressed wanting to spread out the votes. Votes on TJ: 3. Then Aeoryi jumped to Worldhopper. She'd said earlier in the chat that she had a solid suspicion on Worldhopper. She expressed to me in PMs that she didn't want to vote for their suspicion because she thought they were a first time player. She changed her mind in the last 5 hours of the cycle and voted on Worldhopper. I had previously told her in PMs and thread that if she had a solid lead and pursued it, I would support that, so I changed my vote too. Votes on TJ: 2, Votes on Worldhopper: 2 Then Sart brought up Kidpen as suspicious, and TJ jumped on that vote. At this point, Kidpen switches his vote to Twinstorm, creating the tie. TJ: 2, Worldhopper: 2, Kidpen: 2, Twinstorm: 2. Walin retracts their vote and declines to vote again. Kidpen switches his vote to Worldhopper. TJ: 3, Worldhopper: 2, Kidpen: 2, Twinstorm: 1 Biplet votes Twinstorm. TJ: 3, Worldhopper: 2, Kidpen: 2, Twinstorm: 2 Conjectures. So last night, we were all focusing on Worldhopper because the soothed vote saved his life, obviously. I and some others did point out it wasn't a guaranteed save as it was still a 3-way tie. Still, I pointed out Sart and TJ as being suspicious due to starting the Kidpen vote very soon after Aeoryi and I started the Worldhopper vote. Araris and Kidpen starting the Twinstorm vote can also be construed as suspicious in this light, but Kidpen was a villager trying to save his skin, and Araris wasn't the first to put in the alternative vote. After last night, though, especially with Aeoryi's death (Side note, given that Aeoryi probably didn't soothe her own vote, and the unlikelihood of there being two village soothers, the remaining soother is almost certainly elim) I'm beginning to agree that the tie might have been all villagers and the elims were happy to keep the focus on Worldhopper with the soothe and killing Aeoryi, who started that vote. On this note, I'm looking at those who weren't necessarily involved in the tie voting, or those who made it more of a tie - Biplet, for example, bumped Twinstorm from 1 vote to 2, keeping it a tie. TJ voted for Kidpen after Sart, which I personally think is more suspicious than starting said vote, as it feels like a safe elim play to jump on an accusation made by another villager (yes, I realize this implicates me too for supporting Aeoryi, I'm just being fair.) KaladinsSenseofHumorSpren didn't vote during the day, but tried to put in a vote for Worldhopper during the night, after when it would have mattered, which would have been a way to maintain credibility. TheUnknownOrder did not vote at all, so there's nothing to go on from them. Walin actually went from a vote to no vote, which was strange in a potential tie when every vote would have mattered. Conclusions. Twinstorm: Gut says positive. Nothing to really support this aside from them not contributing to the tie. Unknown Order: Declined to vote, a real complete unknown. So slight negative. KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren: slight negative. Declined to vote day 1, and tried to vote too late during night cycle. Araris: slight positive. Has remained consistent in voting patterns. TJ: I felt a little weird about how you defended Worldhopper multiple times in PMs and thread. Also jumped on the Kidpen vote after Sart. Negative read. ThatOneWorldhopper: Voted for Sart, did not change vote near the end. Gut says villager because of potential red herrings but nothing to really prove that. Biplet: Slight negative for reasons stated above. Doc: Obviously the only completely trustworthy person in the entire game. Very chatty. Tell him all your secrets please. Sart: Slight positive, but that's based on gut. Walin: Slight distrust due to withdrawing vote. So to get the day started, I'm going to poke The Unknown Order just to get his take on things. Hi!

Well. Rest in peace, Kidpen. Obviously, the Worldhopper vote was soothed. That makes them a person of interest now. My best reconstruction of how the cycle went. Please correct if any discrepancies. The day starts with some scattered votes. Sart votes biplet. Araris votes twinstorm. The TJ bandwagon begins when Aeoryi votes TJ. Araris changes vote to TJ. I join the vote on TJ. Walin joins the vote on TJ. Aeoryi claims that she has a sudden, solid suspicion, but does not change vote. In a subsequent vote, Aeoryi expresses regret, but does not change vote. Tj shows up. I change my vote to Biplet. Twinstorm puts a vote on Walin to avoid bandwagons, which Araris thinks is suspicious. Kidpen talks about a push away from TJ and votes for TJ again, which Sart thinks is suspicious. The TJ bandwagon dissolves. Aeoryi starts the Worldhopper vote, finally acting on their stated suspicion. I join that vote. Sart starts the Kidpen vote. TJ jumps to the Kidpen vote. Araris starts a Twinstorm vote. Kidpen jumps on said vote. Walin retracts their vote entirely, declines to put in another vote. There's a three way tie that is broken when Kidpen jumps on the Worldhopper vote. Biplet votes on Twinstorm after the tie was broken. Cycle ends, a vote on Worldhopper is soothed, leaving a 3 way tie again, and Kidpen dies. Conjecture time. Sart started the Kidpen vote, and TJ jumped on it. TJ has also expressed to me a few times that they trust Worldhopper and don't want them dead. At the point of Sart's post, there were still a 2 way tie between Worldhopper and TJ. TJ could have jumped on Worldhopper to save themselves, but chose instead to vote Kidpen. So these 2 are who I'm most suspicious of currently. I also noticed an effort to get a Twinstorm vote. Araris started it, asked whoever to join. Kidpen stayed on Twinstorm for a bit before jumping to Worldhopper to break the tie. I note that Biplet jumped on Twinstorm after they were out of danger. Perhaps if Twinstorm turns out to be an eliminator, Biplet could have claimed she did vote for them? Walin retracted their vote, telling us nothing. Kaladinsenseofhumorspren and theunknownorder chose not to vote, which also tells us nothing. Lastly, the soothing is weird because soothing Worldhopper vote didn't guarantee their safety, it changed it back into a 3 way tie. A last-ditch save from a guaranteed death to a 1 in 3 chance? Perhaps proof that all 3 were villagers and the eliminators didn't care?

Fine, Aeoryi. I said I'd support you if you actually changed your vote, and you did. Let's see how this plays out. Biplet Thatoneworldhopper Biplet: (1) Sart Sart: (1) Thatoneworldhopper |TJ|: (2) Walin, Kidpen Araris: (1) TJ Walin: (1) Twinstorm Thatoneworldhopper: (2) Aeoryi, Doc Twinstorm: (1) Araris

Votes as they stand, five hours before rollover: Biplet: (2) Sart, Doc Sart: (1) Thatoneworldhopper |TJ|: (3) Aeoryi, Araris, Walin Araris: (1) TJ Walin: (1) Twinstorm Current running analysis. The TJ bandwagon: - Aeoryi started the TJ vote. As I said, I'm still confused that Aeoryi seems to have a solid suspicion but has not changed their vote. Aeoryi also claims to feel bad about the bandwagon. Again, if you have a solid suspicion and feel bad for the current vote leader of a train you started, why not change your vote then? - Araris started by voting for Twinstorm, then changed it to TJ when Aeoryi pointed TJ out. Nothing too suspicious here, Araris seems consistent on wanting to vote someone out by a significant margin to stop vote manipulation. - I (Doc) hopped on the TJ vote as I too wanted to prod them into speaking and wanted to kill a non-contributer, if possible, but now that they showed up I have changed my vote accordingly. - Walin hopped on the TJ vote. Stated reason bandwagon. I think the only thing the TJ bandwagon has shown me is just to be confused about Aeoryi. Other votes: - Thatoneworldhopper, Twinstorm, and Sart threw out votes on Sart, Walin, and Biplet respectively, with the seeming intent to get them to talk more. Twinstorm specifically states this in their last post, and worldhopper claims to be on the edge of changing their vote if Sart doesn't show up. Sart says that everyone needs to be accounted for. - TJ voted for Araris on the basis that they wanted to vote for their latter voters and wanted to see me and Walin play more. - Kaladin'ssenseofhumorspren, theunknownorder have both shown up in the thread and chatted a little, but chose not to cast a vote. - Kidpen and Biplet have not posted in the chat or replied to any PMs. I am still of the opinion that if we are to vote someone out Day 1, I would vote for an inactive, thus my vote change to Biplet. I am also of the opinion that spreading out votes doesn't do anything, and I do want to see more of a majority emerge. I hope that kaladinssenseofhumorspren and theunknownorder can make more of their opinions known in the form of a vote, and for the last two people who haven't posted to at least make an appearance.

Unsavory as it is, I do agree that there is a reason to bandwagon. We want there to be a clear margin to see how the votes get manipulated and why. It's also helpful to build a majority to pressure people to speak, which worked in the case of TJ. Can I ask why you picked Walin? My strategy right now is simply trying to get people who haven't spoken to speak up. I'd like to know yours?

A poke vote's a poke vote. I was more interested in getting people to talk than attacking a random person. TJ Biplet I am interested in what Aeoryi said about having a solid suspicion already, but not voting on them yet. They've told me who they suspect, but haven't changed their vote. If they're willing to put their vote where their suspicion is, I'll back that, but since they haven't, I'm a little wary.