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A few points from reading:
- I think we have little to no idea who wrote the Epigraphs, as most of the candidates would 'know' about their mission (unless they meant their true mission with the Wind)
- It's interesting that the Oathgate spren specifically mentioned freedom from Honor and Odium and NOT Cultivation
- On that - Taravangian knows Sja-Anat was seeking freedom from Odium, so I don't know if she factors into things a different way than before. Then again the change in Vessel likely caused Wind to be more active so maybe he's stepped back from things on Roshar a bit - I'm sure we'll find out soon
- Did I read right that Shallan used 'dead' Testament to open an Oathgate? I wonder what implications this has for her rebonding Testament or for Maya on that matter
- Intrigued to see where Sigzil's story goes - WoB is that most of what happens to turn him into Nomad will be this book, so within 9 more days he will have to break with the Windrunners, become a Skybreaker AND claim a Dawnshard which seems like a big ask.
- I can see Kaladin's story going pretty much any way (death, ascension, something new) EXCEPT him just settling down to be a therapist.
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Following Tress, we have established terminology for two types of bond in the Cosmere:
- Nahel Bond: Where there is an exchange in the Cognitive Realm
- Luhel Bond: Where there is an exchange in the Physical Realm
Following Realmatic Theory, it would be likely that there is a third bond formed across the Spiritual Realm, though we have yet to get the terminology for that or see what that looks like...or have we?
I suspect the Aviar bond is a type of Spiritual Bond as:
- There is no Physical exchange between the Aviar and their partner
- The Aviar and partner both exist in the Physical Realm entirely (although one could argue that the bond increases the intelligence of the Aviar)
Hence we know there is some kind of bond between the Aviar and their partner, yet not one that seems to fit within the structure we have seen so far. I suspect it may be an example of a Spiritual Connection causing the yet unseen third type of bond, but I am willing to hear any arguments against this theory!
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On 25/01/2021 at 2:06 AM, AquaRegia said:
Brandon has confirmed in the 17th Shard Interview January 23, 2021: El's title was "He Who Quiets", and it was given to Moash.
Yep, he confirmed it here
https://wob.coppermind.net/events/460/#e14625
QuoteBrandon Sanderson
All these weird fused who've been around way too long. The guy [El] that they gave his name [Vyre] to Moash.
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On 12/01/2021 at 9:23 PM, Master Silver said:
He is in the mountains somewhere. What if he is found by the Horneaters and brought to Rock.
Agreed with all your points about how capable Moash is as an assassin. But near the end it was mentioned that some Heavenly Ones found Moash and took him away, presumably safely back into Odium's territory.
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19 hours ago, AquaRegia said:
I don't think the title implies an assassin, despite Moash's bloody initiation. How many people has Moash killed? 4? Jasnah's killed more than that. And more to the point, Moash's new MO seems to be psychological - getting in your opponent's head, pushing them to give up WITHOUT a fight. That's got more of a "He Who Quiets" vibe to me for sure. Not that murder is frowned upon or anything.
Just want to weigh in on this. Being an assassin isn't about quantity, but quality of the kill. Moash has been shown to be entrusted towards important targets:
- Elhokar
- Jezrien
- Navani (With a Kaladin side-mission)
Sure, Jasnah has killed more random mooks, but Moash is the one that Rayse sent to do these high priority missions.
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I think the Unmade are related to why the Spren betrayed the Singers.
Given also that we know Ba-Ado-Mishram was heavily Connected to all of Roshar and her sealing was a big issue for spren and singers alike, my pet theory is she was the spren of Roshar (the continent or the planet). Given that Bondsmith Spren seem to represent big features of the world, I initially thought the Sibling would end up being the Roshar-spren, but if BAM is that deeply Connected, it makes sense why her sealing had so much influence on things.
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I think one thing that's likely to progress is finding out how Cognitive Shadows get offworld. Thaidakar and Kalak are both after that secret and Odium plans on armies of the fused travelling the stars and since we have Zahel present on Roshar who is proof that this is possible, that could be a way to uncover this.
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He felt clunky and slow after being the winds moments ago. But he reveled in what he’d heard and felt. What he’d said. These Words are accepted.
I'm pretty sure the words were said by Dalinar given the quote above.
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So WoB has mentioned that Microkinesis (the movement of small objects) was a form of magic present on Yolen. Khriss refers to it in the same Ars Arcanum:
QuoteWhat I initially dismissed as an inferior form of microkinesis is, indeed, much more focused and—in some ways—more remarkable.
She said this regarding Stoneshaping, so I assume she means that this is more dangerous than Stoneshaping, which I can see for obvious reasons.
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One thing to mention against the case of 'He Who Quiets'
QuoteHesitant, Moash took the sphere that Khen offered. “What was that she said? Vyre?” She had said it in a way that rhymed with “fire.” “It’s one of their names,” Khen said. “I’ve been told it means He Who Quiets.”
This quote from Oathbringer indicates that Vyre MEANS 'He Who Quiets' and it does not behave as a title. So I doubt this is the correct option for El.
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On 21/11/2020 at 11:19 PM, Lightspine said:
Because of the clinking, I think it was probably something metallic or glass. Straight-up money (coins, spheres) doesn't really seem sufficient, obviously. I also don't know if Raboniel's voice being devoid of the rhythms is relevant to some property of the payment or is just a result of her emotions.
Could it be this from the Part 3 Epigraphs from Raboniel?
QuoteThe sand originated offworld. It is only one of such amazing wonders that come from other lands—I have recently obtained a chain from the lands of the dead, said to be able to anchor a person through Cognitive anomalies. I fail to see what use it could be to me, as I am unable to leave the Rosharan system. But it is a priceless object nonetheless.
EDIT: Oops wait I just saw it's been mentioned above, never mind.
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44 minutes ago, robardin said:
... I missed this, where is that?
Right at the start of Part 4 you can find a piece of art with three glyphs. One translates to 'Tanavast', one to 'Rayse' and one to 'Koravellium Avast'
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FUN THEORY 3: Cultivation's Vessel is named Fyiad. AYYO BRANDON, MAKE IT HAPPEN.
Regarding this, one of the pieces of art in RoW heavily implied that her name is actually Koravellium Avast
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I'm pretty sure it was the Wit Epilogue
QuoteI've got a really cool thing set up for Wit's epilogue that I've been planning to do for a long time. So the Wit soliloquy at the end is going to be a little extra special.
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If we compare to Scadrial, where there were 2 shards causing 3 separate magic systems, I think realistically there will be 3 different sets of magic ; Honor + Cultivation = Surgebinding, Honor + Odium = Voidbinding and Cultivation + Odium = Something.
We haven't seen any individual magic systems yet so I assume that each Shard lacks an inidividual magic system, although I think a magic system comprised of all 3 is possible.
In addition, I think the Old Magic is something very different and is done by work of the Nightwatcher only (this may relate to Ashyn) and not a standardised magic system.
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I do think Taravangian says that because he doesn't want to tell Wit. We're not sure about the rules of being a Shard but I think Taravangian considering himself Odium is far more likely for him to do than deny that he was Rayse or something.
Personally though, I do think Odium's intent has changed somewhat to get closer to Passion but we'll have to wait till Book 5 for any confirmation on that.
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1 hour ago, broccoli said:
"But he couldn't see them. No matter how much Stormlight he was given, his eyes didn't recover. He was blind"
I think they specified it was to do with Navani and her Light.
QuoteThe suffocating light surrounded him, burned him as he burst out the front gates of the tower.
Sanderson, Brandon. Rhythm of War (STORMLIGHT ARCHIVE) . Orion. Kindle Edition.
QuoteHe couldn’t blink. He didn’t seem to have eyelids anymore. He couldn’t see either—his vision had been burned away.
I'm pretty sure this is why Vyre was blinded.
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I had an interesting thought. When Odium was negotiating with Taravangian at the end of Oathbringer he says
Quote“Our word is the contract. I am not some spren of Honor, who seeks to obey only the strictest letter of a promise. If you have an agreement from me, I will keep it in spirit, not merely in word.”
However the first thing Taravangian thinks about is finding loopholes in the contract with Dalinar. Maybe this was a quirk of Rayse's own character as opposed to the nature of Shardic contracts or the Shard's Intent.
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I think it's far more likely that the title was Voice of Lights. It's a gender neutral title and Raboniel thinks El would be interested in some of Navani's work.
In addition it is made clear he is a scholar, rather than an assassin like the title 'He who Quiets' implies.
Quote—Ketek written by El, Fused scholar of human art forms,
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I don't think the curse applies simply because he appeared incredibly stupid and Passionate on the day he Ascended, but immediately after Ascension he seemed competent if not even smart. I think as a Shard he overrides any previous changes and perhaps this TaravOdium has the true intelligence and Passion of the original, and Cultivation's curse just amplified his Passion enough that he could gain connection to the Shard only.
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We have a tonne of Death Rattles from the Epigraphs of Way of Kings, and a lot of them have come to pass already. Some of them however, have not, and I suspect most of them will occur in Book 5, while maybe one or two are saved for Book 10.
QuoteI hold the suckling child in my hands, a knife at his throat, and know that all who live wish me to let the blade slip. Spill its blood upon the ground, over my hands, and with it gain us further breath to draw.
QuoteSo the night will reign, for the choice of honor is life...
I think these two relate to the contest of champions proposed. My theory is that Taravangian forces a child to 'willingly' be his champion and forces a forfeit or draw from Dalinar, as it is not honourable to murder a child no matter the circumstance. I think this is the loophole that Taravangian has seen.
I think this Death Rattle links to that as well.
QuoteLight grows so distant. The storm never stops. I am broken, and all around me have died. I weep for the end of all things. He has won. Oh, he has beaten us.
We also have a few Death Rattles we still haven't seen yet.
QuoteThe day was ours, but they took it. Stormfather! You cannot have it. The day is ours. They come, rasping, and the lights fail. Oh, Stormfather!
QuoteA man stood on a cliffside and watched his homeland fall into dust. The waters surged beneath, so far beneath. And he heard a child crying. They were his own tears.
The second one here I had assumed before to be Taravangian watching Kharbranth fall, but now it's unlikely, or alternatively it could still be him depending on how Book 5 goes. It could also be someone else but I have no idea whom, I personally feel this could be one reserved for the second half of the series.
There are a few Death Rattles related to the Unmade which we haven't seen yet.
QuoteHe watches! The Black piper in the night. He holds us in his palm... playing a tune that no man can hear!
QuoteLet me no longer hurt! Let me no longer weep! Dai-gonarthis! The Black Fisher holds my sorrow and consumes it!
QuoteRe-Shephir, the Midnight Mother, giving birth to abominations with her essence so dark, so terrible, so consuming. She is here! She watches me die!
I don't know what part these play, but I do think at least one of the Unmade has some influence on Ishar's madness, as it seems very different from Nale, Jezrien, Kalak, Shallash and Taln and how their madness has been expressed so far.
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Just now, Kingsdaughter613 said:
The Heralds actually generate new bodies out of Investiture, which is what I suspect Kell did once he had a tie to the physical realm. He’s like a Spren, and they all seem to be able to that once the tie is strong enough.
I disagree with Kelsier only because of Hemalurgy. He has a spike through one eye and I think by the nature of Hemalurgy it needs something to be spiked to.
I doubt it would be anything to do with Investiture because that would suggest some link with Harmony, which is unlikely since Harmony doesn't seem to have much idea what he's up to now.
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From what we’ve seen the Heralds are the closest CSs to Kell. Threnodite Shades are nearly mindless and Returned don’t seem to work by the exact rules as everyone else.
I think he's actually different.
The Heralds and Returned are Cognitive Shadows attached back to their original bodies, much like Szeth but I guess they need more Investiture.
Unlike them, we know Kelsier can't be in his original body, he might be in a mistwraith/kandra or someone else's body but he can't be attached back to his original body since that's no longer in tact.
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I don't think it's remotely Kaladin, as Harmony explicitly told Wax that he needed him to be his agent since he couldn't do much himself, as per BoM, which matches the Epigraphs. I can't see why Kaladin would go to Scadrial and serve Harmony.
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The loss of mythology
in Cosmere Discussion
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One thing I haven't heard about discussed is how the loss of mythology and major cultural differences as we veer into Shardic/Cosmere focus can affect the feeling of 'realness' in Roshar. Of the top of my head things like:
Things like that added to the mystery and feeling of Roshar as a world feeling more lived in in tWoK and WoR. As we get some of the answers, it does demystify past events, but I feel these anachronisms are discussed fewer and fewer. I think a lot of these could be mentioned more and highlight cultural differences in order to give characters/places a feeling of their own, whereas it seemed a lot of characters spoke with the same/similar voice.
As an aside, it felt like a lot of characters who reveal ways of the past, like the Heralds and Fused seem to have no mythology or cultural traditions of their own - it felt very much like "this is how it was, this is what we did" and I'd expect the Singers and Ashynites to have cultural norms and discrepancies of their own.
Sorry it might have been rambling, but I do think losing out on a lot of this in favour of reveals/big changes might be one reason Roshar feels more modern and characters feel less distinct than they did once upon a time.