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8 hours ago, Ale the Metallic Conjurer said:

The Pits of Eltania sound like the homeland of Harmony's koloss, and a metal rich area. I think they're the Pits of Hathsin. 

The Allomancer Jak story was actually made into a short story for the Mistborn Adventure Game Alloy of Law book, I know it's at least in Arcanum Unbounded. Regardless, you can actually read it, if you want. IIRC, there's not really any spoilers for Era 2 in it.

13 minutes ago, Treamayne said:

You need to spoiler tag all of those answers, so that Ale can decide if they want spoilers or not. This is their thread sharing their journey with us - it is not up to us to ruin it unless they specifically ask for answers. 

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Questioner

Do you explain how the Feruchemists came back, because at the end there were a lot of eunuchs and...

Brandon Sanderson

Yeah, well, that's one of the reasons why Feruchemy has been split because it's very diluted now. The Terris people did survive because they made it. And so, the genetic code is there.

Questioner

And so, every once in a while, hereditarily, the gene will come up.

Brandon Sanderson

Yeah. But that's why there aren't very many full-blooded Feruchemists anymore. A thousand years of the Lord Ruler trying to breed it out of the population followed by a cataclysm that destroyed most of the population of the world did them in, yeah.

 

 

 

Apologies, didn't consider that. Fixed.

6 hours ago, Ale the Metallic Conjurer said:

When a Feruchemist stores most attributes, their body returns to their original state. So how is Wax always at three quarters of his weight?

He's just always storing a quarter of his weight at all times, to make himself lighter on his feet. Iron isn't exactly a metal where dumping all of an attribute in at once will have major consequences, so he can afford to store and tap for the sake of convenience, since he doesn't really get "weaker" or "stronger" like he would if he was using Pewter or Steel instead of Iron, he just changes weight.

6 hours ago, Ale the Metallic Conjurer said:

We got a koloss blooded Pewterarm SMH. I'm surprised Harmony kept koloss around. Would the koloss blooded need spikes??? I want to know who saw a koloss and told them “I likes ya, and I wants ya. Now we can do this the easy way or the hard way. The choice is yours.” 

6 hours ago, Ale the Metallic Conjurer said:

Wax is a Skimmer. Wayne is a Bloodmaker. Must be the Feruchemist equivalent of a Misting. Has something happened to the number of Feruchemical abilities a person can use?

4 minutes ago, Ale the Metallic Conjurer said:

The poor man has PTSD 

Out of context, I'm fairly certain 99% of people here would still instantly know who this is referring to, lol.

8 minutes ago, Ale the Metallic Conjurer said:

Wax's skill would be like Breeze's skill, then. They're weaker than Mistborn, but their experience in one metal makes them better in the specific field. I'm excited to see how Era 2's gunplay and Skimming evolve.

Exactly. Mistborn and Full Feruchemists each have 16 metals to split their attention between, this enables a lot of cool combinations and things that wouldn't be possible with just one, but it leaves them unable/unwilling to specialize. Twinborn can only use one of each, but they can still use the combination of both for cool things, and they get the benefit of having less options to split their time between. Quantity versus quality.

Wax is a particularly fascinating case, because Steelpushing was already established as being really cool in Era 1. And now Coinshots have guns.

17 hours ago, Trusk'our said:

Oh yeah, there are lots of crazy ways to use all the powers if you home in on them enough. F-iron has lots of applications in particular.

Bit of a tangent, but you just reminded me of the Glider Coat from the MAG Alloy of Law supplement. I wonder if that's actually feasible, using Iron Feruchemy to fly with a wingsuit.

...now I'm imagining Batman on Scadrial.

2 hours ago, ..... said:

so I guess Im not doing a good job of explaining because you still don’t understand. I dont think that you could store the ability in a brassmind for exsample. now here is the idea a medallion has two parts a nicrosil part and a metalmind part for convenience. for now lets ignore the metalmind part or pretend this one dose not have one. I touch it tap nicrosil and have the ability I want, but wait I dont have the ability to tap nicrosil so somthing is happening in the nicrosil to give f-nicrosil and I think that you could change it so that the same mechanism gave you a different power 

The medallions themselves are sort of "alive", for reasons that are as of yet unknown to everyone but the Malwish. The process of creating a medallion is something that hasn't been explored, but the end result is...seemingly not quite like an Awakened object, somehow.

The medallion itself can tell when someone's trying to use it. It senses the Intent related to itself, and acts according to that Intent, within the constraints of what it can do.

Honestly, I think it might be similar to how fabrials work, except using feruchemy (and potentially hemalurgy). The structure of the medallion itself is important, the metals involved encoding for specific effects: specifically Feruchemical effects, because it's built using Feruchemy and the medallion itself is a metalmind.

The Bands of Mourning are specifically an anomaly even to the Malwish, nobody knows how it was created except for the creator.

Like...yes, it's theoretically something you can replicate, but you could also theoretically turn the basement of a house into a supercollider, that doesn't mean anyone could just do that.

On 10/14/2023 at 10:02 PM, Trusk'our said:

So, long question short, do Koloss retain their sense of attraction for humans after their transformation, since Hemalurgy doesn't seem to change the Cognitive Aspect in that way (at least not directly)? We see that there are Koloss-blooded born from Koloss and humans, so would that mean that there are Koloss physically attracted to humans despite their new anatomical differences?

I feel like there might be some...logistical issues in certain cases, even beyond the question of attraction, unless a lot of pewter or gold is involved. Koloss-blooded can still come from other koloss-blooded and humans, as well as from two koloss, that seems to be more likely than a human and a koloss for the aforementioned reason.

On 10/10/2023 at 4:04 PM, Alumínio said:

using a vial of purified DOR could a ferruchemist for example fill their minds with metal?

If so, what is the implication of this since there are unsealed metal minds?

Imagine if you could do this with god's metals

 

 

Judging by how feruchemy works, I don't think a ferring or full feruchemist could do something like this. Feruchemy works by taking traits from the user, converting that to investiture, and storing that converted investiture in a metalmind keyed to that trait. There's no conversion going on when you use the Dor, and nothing really stores raw investiture (Nicrosil seems to store the ability to use Investiture, judging by how it's been described, which would also explain how the medallions work to an extent, but that's not the same as storing a quantity of the Dor. A decent comparison would probably be putting a circuit board into a drawer, as opposed to physically putting the electricity a computer uses into the aforementioned drawer.).

However, I do think that a Compounder could potentially use the Dor to effectively increase the flow of investiture through metalminds charged with an attribute. We know the Dor can fuel allomancy, after all, and what compounding does is use allomancy to filter investiture through a metalmind to turn it into the trait stored within, the Dor might just add more power to the flow of investiture.

On 8/15/2023 at 10:55 AM, TheFrugalWizard said:

Firesong--I agree that a nicroburst murderer would be rare, however there's something you haven't considered. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Thus, the chances of any king of misting or ferring turning to a life of crime is higher than that of a normal person, as they can do things others can't. Similarly, more moral misting or ferrings are likely to turn to law enforcement or another very productive use of their power, such as an archivist (copper Ferring) becoming a bank attendant. That is to say, it should have been more likely that wax ran into a nicroburst of some sort, as their power would have been highly useful to other allomancers.

There's also a difference between what a mistborn/hemalurgist could do with Duralumin on the fly, and a collaborative, purposefully set-up usage of Nicrosil Allomancy to amp up one shot of something else. You don't really fight a Nicroburst, you deal with the big mess they cause and separate them from any Allomancers in the area.

So Wax may have encountered a Nicroburst buffing a Coinshot before, but that's different from one person using Duralumin for such dramatic effects with virtually no setup involved.

On 7/8/2023 at 8:40 AM, Underwater_Worldhopper said:

You store wakefulness, so not really the sleep but the beneficial effects of it, which is what I assume you meant. But yeah, that makes sense, the Bronzemind storing sleep probably wouldn't be restful at all. Another Bronzemind question, though. If you were fully rested and energetic before you started tapping, and you keep tapping for 24 hours or so, when you stop tapping, will you return to that original state, or will all the fatigue you've been keeping at bay hit you at once like a tonne of bricks to the face?

You'll return to a baseline level of wakefulness, which would be that "well-rested" state. Feruchemy doesn't really "hold back" stuff iirc. If you're well-rested and tap wakefulness to prolong that, when you stop tapping it wouldn't dip below normal levels, because that makes no sense considering what Feruchemy does.

If you're already tired and store wakefulness only to tap it later to wake yourself up, after you stop you'd probably return to being tired, because being tired is the baseline state in that situation.

Putting it in simple terms, If you're already at -5 wakefulness because you're pulling an all-nighter, storing 10 puts you at -15, tapping puts you at 5, when you run out you'd go back to -5, not 0, because feruchemy is net-neutral. You get out exactly what you put in.

On 5/23/2023 at 11:02 AM, alder24 said:

 

1. Brass (warmth) - you're cold - tap brass, you're hot - store in brass. No longer will temperature be an issue to you. No cold feet, no cold nights, no hot summers. You have control. You can't be burned by fire, you can't get frostbites from the cold. You can drink your hot beverage as soon as water boils. And you can share your ideal temperature with a simple hug! When camping you can ignite fire with a single touch, and suffer not from weather conditions. You can become an ice cream machine by just freezing the water in the cup you're holding, or heating up the air around you on winter days for others to enjoy. In combat you can heat up your body and burn your opponent with every touch, be untouchable, burn the ropes which bind you. That's one of Feruchemical abilities (if not the only one) that can be very easily shared with others, with just a simple touch or others being in close proximity to you. 
2. Bronze (wakefulness) - the only attribute you can store when sleeping. It's useful if you have to combat tiredness, spend the night working, or you just want to fall asleep as soon as you go to bed. In combat there are almost no applications, it could help you a bit to be less tired, and keep your attention when you are on guard duty.
3. Duralumin (Connection) - this is a fun one. We know something about it. You can speak in languages of people in a foreign nation you're in. Very useful tool for travelers. You can walk around town and be sure nobody will notice you if you store your connections (this includes sneaking into a secure and restricted place). You can make others notice you. You can make friends and form connections easier, or make this one irritating telemarketer forgets you in no time. You're not only connected to places and people, but also to time and fate - everything is connected, that gives you a multitude of possibilities, we barely understand now. In combat you could theoretically tap so much connection that your opponent would consider you as your friend and wouldn't want to fight you - then go have fun together and everybody would win.
4. Cadmium (breath) - useful for both mountain climbing and deep water diving. You don't have to carry any oxygen tank with you. You're immune to toxic gasses like CO. In combat you can't be suffocated or put into sleep with narcotics.

Honestly, I'm torn between all of these, to a variable extent. Cadmium can also oxygenate your blood directly, allowing for effects similar to blood-doping, enabling a person to exert themselves for long periods. Duralumin seems incredibly useful in general because you can store and tap different kinds of Connections, Brass and Bronze have a lot of utility in everyday life.

Also, I should probably mention, Bendalloy won't give you energy, it can supply nutrition and fluids but doesn't affect your stamina, iirc. It's just kind of like...eating and drinking, without needing to do that.

1 hour ago, cometaryorbit said:

Steelsight from spiked eyes is weird.

We know it's something that any Coinshot/Lurcher/Mistborn can theoretically learn, and we see Wax in TLM using steel lines for spatial awareness (though not full "sight") ... but Kelsier's epilogue in TLM shows he has steelsight but not actually Allomancy. So somehow he gets the lines without actually burning the metal.

It kind of sounds like he's getting the super powerful version that can see things other than just metal, too (though Inquisitors can see traces of metal in basically everything, so who knows).

That's really interesting. I don't know how you can steal an ability with Hemalurgy that the original person didn't have (steel lines without burning metals). Unless it has to do with the Spiritual nature of the lines, and the Spiritual nature of Hemalurgy and its wounding/opening of the soul/spiritweb... maybe it's like looking through a gap into the Spiritual?

That seems pretty likely, since the bindpoints line up and Kelsier's not really a typical user of Hemalurgy. IIRC, Kelsier's basically a cognitive shadow stapled to his own bones and what's probably a mistwraith for the fleshy bits. He didn't really take anything from anyone, cognitive shadows are investiture, he just had someone use hemalurgy to steal him and plug him into a body, which is...wild.

1 hour ago, cometaryorbit said:

I actually don't think it works this way. If cadmium stores oxygen in a breathable form, that's O2, not the oxygen atom in CO - for the same reason that you can't Steelpush on metal oxide rocks like limestone/marble.

Also, cadmium and bendalloy are "Hybrid" metals, not pure Physical... just like Gold, which stores more of a Spiritual health (correspondence between the Physical state of the body and the Spiritual ideal) than just "rate of healing wounds" or "immune system strength".

So cadmium may not store actual oxygen - it may be the state of the body having sufficient breath. More like a direct edit of the body's state than a tank of compressed air.

IIRC it can also be used for an effect similar to blood-doping, delivering a large amount of oxygen into the body to enhance your stamina. It seems like it doesn't store air, just the stuff people can breathe safely (oxygen), with the expected effects a large amount of oxygen would have when tapped. If it just stored what you're breathing in regardless, you could tap it and get smoke or other particulates in your bloodstream, which sounds horrific.

So, steelsight/ironsight can be used to substitute for lost vision, such as with the Inquisitors and Kelsier, and we see that the divide between what constitutes individual objects as valid for steelpushing/ironpulling is somewhat psychological (judging by Wax's ability to split a bullet into the projectile, casing, and primer at the back, then only push on one of those, as well as Marsh and Kelsier both being skilled enough with iron and steel to push and pull on different parts of a single object).

What I'm wondering is, is the sight granted by those metals actually connected to a person's vision, and if so, would being colorblind or blind affect that? Could a blind Coinshot/Lurcher use a similar way of sensing their surroundings to an Inquisitor to substitute for sight? If not, would steelsight manifest differently for someone who is blind, due to the fact that it typically manifests as colored lines, something that a blind person would be unable to perceive (or even lack context for entirely, depending on if they were blind from birth or lost their sight later in life)?

On 4/21/2023 at 6:01 AM, alder24 said:

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She didn't need water, she could fuel them directly with the Dor, just like Twinsoul was doing in TLM, when he created a massive roselite armor. Fueling Aethers with investiture is more efficient than water, and allows for creation of greater things. And this is very likely what she was doing. She was able to use Aon, she had access to investiture and it's very likely that she used investiture to feed Luhel Bond instead of water.

 

I didn't consider that, but I really should have, especially since I finished TLM only a few hours before asking about this. I feel a bit stupid, lol.

So, when I read how Midnight Aether works, the Luhel bond that is formed, and how that requires water from the person maintaining the bond...I admittedly didn't make the connection immediately, but after finishing TLM, getting to the Ars Arcanum, and remembering what Bendalloy does Feruchemically, I thought of something.

How The Sorceress got so much Midnight Essence on her side...that has to be something related to Bendalloy, infinite reserves of water through compounding or something similar (because Bendalloy can, according to the text, store fluids as well as nutrients from normal food), right? What I'm wondering is how she waa able to even do that, since she's an Elantrian. An unsealed bendalloymind could give her the feruchemy, but compounding needs Allomancy, and I doubt that she's spiked or a mistborn. Is there something I'm not considering here, could she hack it with Aons somehow, ???

2 hours ago, Benedictify said:

Good point. However, I wasn't talking about his accents or disguises. In The Lost Metal, 

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In the scene at Tobol Copper's apartment in Chapter 30, he puts on the guy's hat and imagines what the guy's personality is like, how he thinks, and successfully divines where to go next. He *sees* things that no one else is able to, even if it's in his imagination and not like a literal magic mirror scene.

On the WoB, I was looking at that one and others. There are some WoB's that suggest he's not entirely sure whether some of those things are savantism or resonances; I posit that Brandon himself doesn't exactly know what's going on, and he's still figuring it out. If that’s true, he should go with my idea  

Honestly, a lot of what he derived seemed like it could be obtained from some advanced logical deductions based on the information the group had access to and what Wayne could pick up from what he saw. Personally, how I saw Wayne's skill with accents and disguises was kinda like...he notices bits of people, commonalities and traits, learns about them, and files them away for later use. Every accent, everyone, is a blend of things, dashes of different places and roles and experiences all adding up together into a person, and he had enough to go on from Tobol from the information given that he was able to form a pretty good picture of what he could have done.

And I like it that way, tbh. Not everything is magical, people can just be really good at things sometimes, and for Wayne that was people. Explains why he got on so well with some of the kandra, and adds something special to his character.

On 11/25/2018 at 1:36 PM, Ookla the NotVoidus said:

Granted. The copperminds contain only this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

I wish for a pie that never runs out.

Granted. It takes it's extra mass from the people who eat it, transmuting that into pie to regenerate.

I wish for the world's most glorious moustache and goatee.

On 11/10/2018 at 9:39 AM, Kidpen said:

Granted. All peanut butter you eat is smooth instead of crunchy. As your bane, it all tastes like strawberry jelly instead.

I wish for a mildly frozen pb and j sandwich. 

Granted. All sandwiches you make from the point where you recieve the sandwich onwards...will be mildly frozen.

I wish for a phone that never loses reception and always maintains a full battery.

12 hours ago, Lord High Executioner said:

Welcome to Era 2 Scadrial! You are a homeless beggar until one of Trell's Faceless Immortals takes over your body.

I wish for Jasnah to do my homework for me.

Granted. However, she writes the answers in the form of glyphs, which your teachers are unable to read.

I wish for Pewter allomancy and Gold feruchemy.

48 minutes ago, QueenOfInk said:

Granted, but you must have a special curse for each boon, that multiplies in intensity every time another boon is added.

I wish to be transported to the Cosmere universe 

Granted. You materialize inside of a wall on Scadrial.

I wish to be able to safely travel to each and every cosmerically-relevant world.

1 hour ago, Inklingspren said:

Page 200!!!

Granted. It's also posessed by a demon.

 

I wish to havr all 10 surges without Yelg-nar.

Granted. Each time you want to access one, you must swallow one of the ten gemstones that can hold Stormlight, one for each specific Surge, and there's initially no way to tell which type of gem gives which Surge, as the colors do not match up (Sapphire isn't Gravitation, etc.) to the orders/surges associated with them.

I wish for a copy of TLM.

4 hours ago, Inklingspren said:

Granted. The bane is that in the real world, some terrorists also finds out how to use Voidbinding.

 

I wish to be able to break the second law of thermodynamics

Granted. Ruin is now after your head for breaking one of the things that fall under his sphere of influence.

I wish for a Vin plushie, with glass knives included.

On 12/30/2014 at 0:05 PM, Patrick Star said:

 

I can already see Eshonai (if she becomes a willshaper) marching up to Voidbringer HQ and saying "That's a nice outpost you got there.  It would be a shame if something were to... happen to it."

...Eshonai probably won't do something like that, as, last I checked, she was suffering from a rather debilitating ailment. Namely, being dead from drowning in stormwater.

16 hours ago, Ishar said:

Granted, but your become unable to read.

 

I wish Brandon could write books 5 times faster than he currently can without losing any quality.

Granted. He can write faster, but the books aren't released faster than they normally would.

I wish we all knew what Voidbinding could do.