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In this case, Gavilar makes more sense and is my fave pic atm for Odiums Champion

4 hours ago, Oltux72 said:

The Spren now know how to make awakened blades. That will change the balance of power in Shadesmar and has increased the importance of Nalthis by a lot. And I am sure the Spren are now starting a research project on how to awaken with Stormlight.

Do they know how to? Can you source that?

On 01/07/2021 at 2:42 PM, Frustration said:

Every order has squires, and aparently it was common practice for Radiants to lend plate

It was common practice for *some* orders to do so

Tension + adheision

Tension from what we understand makes things stronger. So not only do they make bonds they can strengthen them. I think in this regard Tension is an amplifier for what they do with Adheison on a spiritual level.

Also, Windrunners can lend powers to those they fight with and protect. Giving the ability to use basic WR powers, lend plate etc. I think this is the spiritual component of their powers.

Also, when looking at the virtues of each, Windrunners are leaders while Bondsmiths are a kind of religious mentor, guiding with piety. Their realm concerns Gods, how to live well, honorably etc.

Also, Dalinar is a special case among all Bondsmiths. Before his death, Tanavast changed the Stormfather, imbuing and merging him with Tanavasts own CS.

Dalinar is the first to properly bond the Stormfather after that point. This makes Dalinar unique among all other Bondsmiths, likely contributing to his OP-ness.

On 17/06/2021 at 9:06 AM, MGershone said:

 

Is it possible that the broken oath isn't a sudden thing? What if the oath was some sort of complex deal or treaty? Honor begins to "break" it, little by little, and that causes him to begin unraveling. Eventually, the Recreance - the proverbial straw on the camel's back - pushes him over the edge and he is weakened enough to be killed. This is similar to what happened with Preservation, whose efforts to preserve Scadrial drove him insane and eventually killed him.

I think it's more to do with Honour technically abiding an agreement with the Singers according to their deal but not in the *spirit* of the agreement.

This also relates to the quote about caring more about oaths then the meanings behind them.

This probably would have gone against his shardic intent, much in the same way we see with Rayse at the end of RoW.

The BAM event may have been the final nail in the coffin, leading to his death at the hands of the Fused with Rayse assisting.

In the end though this did nothing for Rayse, Honour never realeased him from Roshar. This may have been calculated? If not by Honour then maybe by Cultivation. With Honour dead he could not release Rayse, trapping him permanently.

Until Dalinar came along, which as we seen was also a large part of Cultivation's plans.

On 15/05/2021 at 11:29 AM, Szeth_Pancakes said:

Possibly. I personally don't think he's going to show up again, but if he does, I think it may be in the Back 5. Same with Gavinor.

Likewise for Oroden (I think thats how its spelt).

Theres a lot of young people set up in the first five:

Gavinor, Oroden, Lift, Rysn, now Adin.

It's going to be interesting watching these characters grow and interact with each other in the back five.

Plus any wee lads and lasses that prop up in book 5.

1 hour ago, Frustration said:

Thaidakar is overconfident, 17th shard has them outclassed, the IRE has had centuries of a head start, etc.

There is no feasable wya they are the most powerful in only three-hundred years.

This is Kelsier we are talking about. Look at what he did with a few years with his mistborn powers.

Lin never displayed any features of a soulcasting savant. I think it's worth noting how much he may have soulcast if enticed by debt collectors and the restoration of his house.

Shallan displays difficulty soulcasting as evidenced in RoW. I think it relates to a mental block with her final truth, perhaps partially because of Testament's bond as well.

Something else of note is how protective Lin was of Shallan, maybe just not because she was his only daughter, and a shardbearer. I think it was also because she was the literal salvation of his house.

The obvious hole in the theory is the Ghostbloods and the broken soulcaster. Owing to shallans unreliable narration a d tge nature of her story, it wouldnt surprise me if the Ghostbloods were involved with her family much earlier. Maybe they new of Shallan in her childhood and were pressuring Lin to eventually give her to them. (That's a wildcard theory).

This could tie in with the Shallan's Mother is Chanarach theory as well.

Lemme know what you think

2 hours ago, twenty second of the sun said:

it doesn’t need to be life or death its a problem that doesn’t need to exist

All I was trying to say is that throwing your hands up in defeat before trying to change things isnt in the spirit of the first ideal. Was honestly a throwaway statement

On 22/03/2021 at 1:26 PM, Bejardin1250 said:

His order is never stated.

Kaladin has fought 7 brands of fused and I’m pretty sure he’s never fought “those ones of masks” so he could be that 9th brand which we don’t know what surge that is.

He could be progression I’m not sure if we’ve scene any of those yet although he could be a soulcasting brand.

And a few others we haven’t seen but Kaladins fought

It would likely be Division right? That's a scary thought

5 hours ago, Honorless said:

Someday, maybe. I don't exactly live in the parts of the world that are accepting of homosexuality, y'know, so... that's going to be very difficult and even attempting to do that will affect my life hard.

Fair enough I get that. But you do know what I mean right? I'm not saying that your cause isn't right, but getting mad at others for not doing what you even aren't?

Doesn't seem very life before death to me.

On 17/02/2020 at 3:07 AM, Honorless said:

The gay male protagonist. Bane of mainstream literature. But things are better now™. *sigh* LGBT literature is still very much- actually hold that thought. The existence of that term alone shows the problem: that LGBT literature is a separate thing from straight literature. We rarely have fantasy, mystery or sci-fi whose main character happens to be gay, we have gay fiction which happens to have a fantasy, mystery or sci-fi setting, rarely. Mostly it's just romance. Written by women. *sigh* It's mostly erotica, basically not even aimed at the same gender. 

There are gay authors: Adam Silvera, TJ Klune, Will Walton, Benjamin Alire Sáenz,... well-known LGBT authors. Special thanks to Richard Morgan who finally wrote a non-romance with a gay male character as the main protagonist. Also Robin Hobb.

Gay characters are almost never the main protagonist in the mainstream literature. Gay literature is still a niche genre and generally not taken to be a part of mainstream literature.

When gay characters do appear in the mainstream and they're not badly written, they're usually secondary characters or at most, the deuteragonist. These authors are then treated like the bastion of LGBT literature and everyone else would remember their example for the next ten years as completion of the required dosage of gayness they can handle on their reading list. They will then cite these books everytime some poor sod mentions we need more representation, "wasn't that one book from 5 years ago with that one gay character (who probably dies later on)  enough?" And these authors too, even after all this time, are in the minority compared to those who simply ignore that gay people exist. These are the books most likely to have a lot of romantic subplots. Love triangles, ahoy! "But we need romance in our books!"

"Why do we need to have a gay character?" "what does it add to the character?"

Female gay characters are, of course, fine. I mean there's also less gay female characters because it's not as daring and "female lead" is still something that can be used to sort books but at least people aren't directly opposed to them. Gay male characters on the other hand are an insult and a threat to masculinity everywhere *long exhale*

So we have Ranette and Drehy filling the quota of gay characters in the Cosmere and they're tertiary characters. So far, we have maybe-promises from the author regarding gay characters in the future.

On a completely unrelated note, how many love triangles have we had in the Cosmere so far again?

 

This post is my anger and this post is my logic:

Also check out this comment by @The Awakened Salad which addresses the question of why a character would "need" to be gay:

 

So write the book you want to see out there?

On 10/05/2021 at 7:50 AM, Bejardin1250 said:

Dalinar did not put in the work for Redemption

Going to the Nightwatcher does not make you worthy l. Being a Drunk does not make you worthy

Sacrifice makes you worthy, and I felt that Dalinar did not make any of those until after Cultivation had changed him

Cultivation pruned him and he grew back stronger but it was still Cultivation that made it at all possible 

I think what you mean to say is that Cultivation gave Dalinar an opportunity. Dont forget that Renarin saw Dalinar fall. In that one moment he made the choice that mattered, his choice.

Saying that Dalinar would be nothing without cultivation is true, but the same could be said of Kaladin and Syl. Kale would long be dead at the bottom of a chasm if Syl hadnt given him that poison leaf.

In the end it was that they both made the right choice when given the opportunity to that defined them.

What if Dalinar/Knights capture Khabranth? 

They would first have to discover Todiums identity though, but It might give KR the leverage they need to pin him down to a better contract.

This could also be what that death rattle is about - Dalinar and Todium both weighing the lives of Khabranth against victory.

On 04/05/2021 at 6:36 AM, Aspiring Writer said:

 

Yeah, when Raboniel refers to Stormlight's rhythm, she refers to it as Honor's Tone, and Voidlight has Odium's Tone. Warlight was named after the Rhythm of War, which is its tone, which would imply that was what they would become of they combined. However, We know that the combination of Ruin and Preservation could have been Discord rather than Harmony, so there is a chance that if the two combined they would be something else than War, like Conflict.

Personal theory is on Conquest or Inquisition

On 01/04/2021 at 9:57 AM, Harrycrapper said:

I mean that depends on how you define winning, I'd say it's more that they survived each desolation. And at some point they started losing more than they were able to rebuild before the next one. The question here isn't if the humans were losing, it's how they were losing with what appear to be better circumstances than the current Radiants. 

Winning battles but losing the war tbh

What if this referred to Hoid? 

Or even Todium. That seems like something he would wrestle with.

It could be the site of Tanavasts potentially violent shattering

Son of Tanavast - If Tanavast had a child with anyone it would be Cultivation, literal child I mean. But what if, similar to how memories were left to the Stormfather to pass to a worthy Bondsmith, what if he left something to Cultivation to pass to a worthy heir?

On 2/1/2021 at 3:13 PM, Grytorm said:

I think RoW provides strong evidence that Odium's intent is a little more complicated than hate and anger all the time. Those are the dominant emotions but Odium has some connection to other emotions.

Personally I think that Odium is fundamentally tied into breaking Connections and this manifests as hatred towards all that would restrain the shard. Other "Passionate" emotions are fundamentally emotions loosed from all restraint.

Also Taravangian's intelligent days make me think of Moash and his general lack of emotions. Both sides of his capacity can be aligned wiyh Odium.

I think at its core its something of Superego and Id.

"The superego is the ethical component of the personality and provides the moral standards by which the ego operates. The superego's criticisms, prohibitions, and inhibitions form a person's conscience, and its positive aspirations and ideals represent one's idealized self-image, or 'ego ideal'."

"The Id is the instinctual component of personality that is present at birth, and is the source of bodily needs and wants, emotional impulses and desires, especially aggression and the libido (sex drive).

Odium is Id and Honour Superego. Odium is about seizing the needs and wants, the drives and passions that fill us from time to time. Honour is bout observing what is "right" and abiding that rather then acting off impulse

This is a small part of the whole picture but I think there is some truth in it

Brandon has been foreshadowing just how adept the heralds, particularly Taln are in combat. We see this with Szeth vs. Nale and the Windrunners + Sezth vs. Ishar. Ash even confirms him as the most dangerous of the heralds.

I think this is being done to set him up as a major challenge, at this point there are few that could challenge Kaladin in 1v1 "fair" combat (despite what he said to Dalinar).

I think in the end it will be Dalinar or Kaladin in the ring against Taln.

1 minute ago, mathiau said:

With the El thing I was just meaning that there is a pattern of sacrifice to Odium for Status (The Nine) Power (Moash) and Redress/Punishment (El).

 

On 1/23/2021 at 7:31 AM, Rushu42 said:

I think that either one has a chance. Fullborn are powerful, yes, but the Radiant has plate, which protects them from most forms of Investiture. Plus, the Fullborn isn't even armored. Yes, they'd have gold compounding, but the Radiant also has powerful healing (especially if access to all 10 surges includes the enhanced healing abilities of the Truthwatchers). A Radiant, if they're fast enough, can soulcast the air around a Fullborn's head into metal, or sink into the ground and come up at unexpected moments. What would really be the decider, as has been said earlier, is if the Fullborn could flare chromium and wipe out the Radiant's stormlight. Without that advantage, though, I think they could be fairly evenly matched.

I don't think you understand it fully. A full born has TLR or Elend's strength of Allomancy They could throw up a Bendalloy bubble and use F Zinc to enhance their thinking speed. In less then a blink a Fullborn could use F Steel and Iron to turn themselves into and incredibly fast and heavy projectile. As they approach the Radiant they could tap compounded Pewter and punch the Radiant, obliterating their head. As they do so, flared (even duralumin enhanced chromium) to deplete the Radiant's stormlight.

Its not a question of tactics or abilities. Mass and speed is the only real calculation that comes into play. This also doesn't get into other abilities like Fortune, Electrum or even Ettmetal. Honestly its criminal how badly TLR lost to Vin, she wouldn't have had any shot if TLR hadn't been so cavalier.

On 1/23/2021 at 3:32 PM, Ciridae said:

Minor Mistborn and Secret history spoilers.

So in short I believe that Ulim is part Ruin and part Odium. Here's why:

 

Ulim's red color means that it is likely he is made up of more than one type of investiture. We know that's not necessarily the norm for voidspren because of Yixli's yellow coloring.

 

We know that investiture assosciated with each of the shards can be found anywhere. We also know that Ruin's investiture has manifested sapience (with some help) and a spren-like form at least one more time in the form of Nightblood.

 

We also know that Rayse does not like expending his own power and would prefer not to invest much. We see this presumably with the Unmade and indirectly through Sja-Anat. Where he can, Odium corrupts instead of creating wholecloth. So I think it's plausible that Rayse or even Sja-Anat corrupted some lose Ruin-investiture that was available in the rosharan system and gave it sapience.

 

Now, here are some textual hints:

Ulim bears some physical resemblances with Ruin, or at least Ruin's manifestation that we get to see. The following is Ulims description when he finds out that Axindweth has left the planet and their plans have changed.

 

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This closely matches Ruin's description when Kelsier sees him similarly agitated:

"[...] Kelsier could see spines beneath the surface of his skin. Pricking spider legs, thousands of them, pushing against the skin and causing it to pucker outward in erratic motions."

 

I found this parallel pretty striking.

Then, a few pages later, when Ulim is discovered by Nale, he says:

Which is an interesting choice of words.

 

He's also a pretty destructive little fella. He's cavalier with the lives of others. Even with Venli's, who Ulim is pretty dependant on for a large part of their relationship. And when Navani is captured his very first response is to ask if she should be killed.

 

Ulim was also working closely with Axindweth. I think it's safe to assume based on her name and her rings that she is probably Terris and likely a Feruchemist or ferring. Now, I dont think she was working with him because he was part Ruin, I'm sure she had her own reasons for starting a Return. We don't really know much about her, but I thought I'd point out the Scadrian connection anyway.

 

Finally, and I'm sure this is just a coincidence, but from what I've been able to tell the only translation of the world Ulim is "reduce" from albanian, so there you go

Big ups, this looks like a solid theory to me and is absolutely fascinating. I wonder if he would be willing to bond Kelsier? (isn't that a terrifying thought)

I think it might also be a case of how the person holds a shard. Also perhaps because Kelsier wasn't all that tied to Preservation's power, he might not have imprinted very well