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I really like Wayne. He offers a different perspective on things and says some really funny things. He is quite certainly rash - ruining the wedding is proof of that. For me, that's not enough to dislike him. If nothing else, I'd say he knew better than Wax did that Wax wasn't ready for marrying Steris right then. And, to be fair, Wayne was right.

Haha. I guess this just speaks to how dynamic Martin's characters are, but I would completely disagree that Tyrion Lannister is a horrible human being. In fact, I'd say he's one of the best human beings in Westeroes. He's intelligent and questioning, he's one of the few that understands both privilege and resentment, he doesn't go around raping and murdering for the fun of it, he honestly cares about the people around him, and he'll even go out of his way to help Bran ride a horse even though his mother and brother are being total #$^&s to him for no other reason than his last name being Lannister. [/tangent]

I kind of assume that a Seeker has a range based on A) how innately powerful the allomancer is whether they are burning Bronze or flaring Bronze C) whether they are being enhanced by anything - Duralumin, a Hemalurgic spike, drawing upon the mists, etc. So, for instance, I would assume that an average Seeker burning Bronze has an AOE of X, an average Seeker flaring Bronze has an AOE of Y, and Vin with her earring in and burning Duralumin has and AOE of Z, where Z >>>> Y > X. I have nothing to base this off of, it's just an assumption. It's hard to think that any ability has a hard radius of effect attached to it regardless of how hard that ability is being pushed.

The Final Empire. From beginning to end, that book captivated me. The notion of an actual immortal* ruler, being introduced to Allomancy and Steel Inquisitors... all the way up to the epic conclusion. It was the first Sanderson book I read, and his version of fantasy was instantly astonishing to me. Man, I really need to give that one a re-read soon.

Sorry, threw an edit in there before you got your response off. My conclusion wasn't worded well at all. I agree with you.

Alright, I decided to just reread a few chapters and figure this out. Wax et. al. approach the compound and assess their situation: They then decide to move to another side of the compound to get a better view. On the way, Wax tells Steris he's going to leave her behind and she surprises him by agreeing. During this conversation: So at the first location, Wayne made it seem like any metal burning would set off the Seekers. At this location, Wax thinks Steris is pretty safe. The rest of the group then grabs the equipment they need for infiltration, leaves Steris and the horses behind, and make their way up some switchback stairs on the East side of the compound that lead to a darkened ridge above the waterfall. They then discuss infiltration options and decide on Spoiled Tomato - which requires a Steel flare. When Wayne lands, guards come to investigate the noise of the body landing, not the flaring of a metal. --------------- So, Wayne's comment was directed specifically at the notion of Wax flying in - which would require Wax to use Steel inside the compound to land. The perimeter was set up in such a way that they were safe at a distance, but then the Seekers would catch them when they got too close. That's why Spoiled Tomato worked without alerting any Seekers. When I read this the first time, I just had Wayne's "murderin'" line stuck in my brain and thought that applied to Spoiled Tomato as well.

Yeah, after I wrote that I got to thinking about all the threads Brandon had to pull from... Telsin, the Set, bizarro Kandras, Trell, Sovereign, etc. It's not going to be boring, that's for sure.

I guess when I read it, there had been some mention of slipping past guards, so I thought they were already in a place were they couldn't use allomancy when Spoiled Tomato happened.

Ooooooh. I totally missed that part. I think I get way too excited when I read these books, because I tend to overlook details like this ALL THE TIME. I really need to start a re-read.

While they are approaching the compound, they make it very clear that the Set has Seekers and they can't burn any metals. But then they use Spoiled Tomato to get Wayne to the compound, which requires Wax to flare steel. After Wayne creates the distraction and everyone else joins him, they again bring up Seekers and don't use any metals. So... how exactly did Spoiled Tomato go unnoticed?

Oh yeah, and the Sovereign from Bands of Mourning... has to be Spook, right? Kelsier taught him immortality through Hemulurgy, he reigned for 100 years, then went down to check out the masked people of the south and taught them a bunch of tricks? So, is Spook still alive? EDIT: Doh. I didn't read that last chapter very carefully, did I? Sovereign is probably Kelsier.

Oh yeah, forgot about Steris. I really liked her character growth in this one.

Just finished this one a few days ago. My biggest intrigue in this one was the stuff about Connection, Investiture, and Identity. Meeting the southern masked people was interesting, and the Spearhead of Mourning was interesting. I saw the twist with Wax's sister coming from a mile away, but that's fine. I was sure after reading the first three chapters on tor.com that the wait between Bands of Mourning and The Lost Metal was going to be insufferable, but... I dunno. With the relic found and Suit dead, the final book feels like it's just going to be about hunting down and finishing Telsin. I'm sure Brandon will surprise me, but I'm back to wanting another Stormlight way more than Wax and Wayne #4.

One tidbit I thought was particularly interesting: The souls of people used to create Koloss don't pass through the Cognitive Realm until the Koloss their souls created dies. I guess I kind of assumed that the person would pass through the CR when they they are killed to create the Koloss. But this makes sense, what with the Hemalurgic soul ripping and whatnot.

Wow. Ever since I read the original Mistborn trilogy, I've wanted to know this story. Sanderson has dropped vague little bread crumbs in interviews, like it wasn't Ruin speaking to Vin when she got the sense that she shouldn't meet with Hoid, and I've always thought, "Okay, what am I missing? Where is this information coming from? Is there a book I missed somewhere?" The fact that this novella was kept so (relatively) hush hush and I all but stumbled upon it makes it that much better. Holy crap. This is amazing. A long look into the Cognative realm, an interaction with Khriss and Nazh, Elantrians trying to capture a shard and referencing the shades of Threnody, the scene where Hoid takes his Lerasium... and those are just the juicy parts OUTSIDE of Kelsier's interactions with Scadrial after his death. This was just an absolute treat. Such a fun read, and I'm running out of words to describe it. Incredible.

I don't think it would be possible for me to read them all in 3-4 days. I get way too distracted and just can't finish a 1000 page book in a day. All three books would probably take me at least several weeks.

Yeah, I'd say that sounds pretty likely.

How ridiculous it would be if George RR Martin's The Winds of Winter, Patrick Rothfuss' Kingkiller #3, and Sanderson's Stormlight #3 were all released on the exact same day (which would realistically be sometime Q1 2017, not that this is extremely likely in the first place)? I assume most people here would probably put Stormlight #3 as priority, but I'm also assuming there has to be some amount of correlation between Sanderson fans and Martin/Rothfuss fans, and Martin/Rothfuss fans have had to wait far longer for their next installments. As a big fan of all three, I would probably go insane. 3000+ (3500+?) new pages to read all hitting me in one day would be crazy. I'd probably have to read Winds of Winter first, since I got into that series first and it's still, in some ways, my favorite. Then it'd be Stormlight, followed by Kingkiller. (Probably) Mostly, I'd just be trying to avoid spoilers and reading as much as I could every day.

I did a complete re-read before I realized the part I really wanted was past the epilogue, past the Arcs Arcanum, and past the redacted Mad King chapters. Oh well, still a great book, had me turning the page just as much as the first time, and the stuff at the end was pretty juicy.

I awarded myself a half-point along the way, so 25.5. I just got done with the re-read, though, so that's kind of like cheating. Haha.

That's pretty much what I'm expecting. Have you ever known a trilogy in the history of ever where there isn't a cliffhanger at the end of book two?

Late to the party... Oh geez, that last line. Combined with this: That's just pure unadulterated evil.

That's a really good point. So by that logic it would almost have to be based on the guilt the person feels.

The way I interpret this, a Kii prison would be a lot like Azkaban - it doesn't matter what you have or haven't done, it's going to suck. Cuz' I mean, guilty can be interpreted so many ways. I'm guilty of leaving the toilet seat up on occasion. I'm guilty of speeding. I'm guilty of laziness and procrastination. How much pain does that make me feel? Is it simply based on how much guilt I feel? Because then someone could murder someone, justify it in their mind, feel no guilt, and feel no pain.

I started to ask a question on here, but in the process I figured out the answer and got as far as I could without RAFO-ing myself. It was a bit of research, so I figured I'd still hit submit rather than deleting it all. Without further ado: According to Elantris: 1) Aons are based on the geography of Arelon and change if the geography of Arelon significantly changes 2) Elantris is in the shape of a very large Aon Rao 3) Elantrians' physiology is directly tied to the completeness of the Aon Rao incorporated into Elantris' design So we know what happens when the Shaod takes a person when Elantris isn't complete, and we know what happens when the Shaod takes a person when Elantris is complete, but what happens if the Shaod takes a person and Elantris isn't even there (i.e. what happened when the Shaod took a person before Elantris was built)? The only real conclusion is that it would cause the person to die or disappear. Which makes me think the Shaod didn't exist before Elantris, which makes me think that Elantris causes the Shaod. Has Brandon been asked this one? Going to WoB: Well alrighty then. From that we can infer an interesting fact: Elantrians did not build Elantris. So, follow up question: who did? Again going to WoB: So, according to in-story lore, Elantris existed before Arelon was settled by the civilization we know from the book. So either Elantris was built by a pre-Arelon civilization (who had an incredible knowledge of Aons and their power), or Elantris was built by a relatively powerful force (probably Aona/Devotion?). And all that assumes the in-story lore is correct. So, I RAFO'd myself.