Elkanah
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Nope. The HI is only made known to the elims once all the village hemalurgists die. Previously, the Hemalurgic Intelligence was village until all the village hemalurgists died. Then they changed sides and became an elim. Now it's a little more clear because they are always an eliminator, but the eliminators do not know who they are and they do not know the elims until the village hemalurgists die. I love the addition of the doc and I am interested in the interaction that hemalurgists can have other roles. I seem to remember that the old HI couldn't vote... or something like that. It doesn't look like that's the case here. They are still a nerfed seer, but they don't have to pretend to be village this time. I shouldn't make recommendations yet, because I don't know what team I'm on, but if I was an HI, I would actively search for the identities of hemalurgists so I could get to the endgame. (I may be hoping to be an elim again and maybe do a better job than I did last time.) EDIT Just needed the part of the quote that I was answering.
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*starts reading the rules. realizes it's the LG15 rerun* I can't miss this. Sign me up!
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I'll take first pinch hitter position for now. I may upgrade to player depending on if you need me to.
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Well played everyone! Games with a lot of newer players are a bit tougher for the village. I definitely played suboptimally. I'm just glad my teammates could cover during my mess of a life. Great job @CadCom @Ashbringer @eltruT. It was great being on a team with you and I hope I have that chance again! Good job @Illwei and @Gears figuring out who we were. I almost threw the game when I let Illwei survive, and Gears had us dead to rights, but second guessed himself at the last minute. Great job to both of you. Sorry for physically holding you under the bus @Matrim's Dice. I had figured I was going down and I needed to give as few clues as I could. Then I thought I might actually survive, but I am no Kelsier despite the propaganda on other planets. Thank you for running the game @Experience! I remember seeing this one in the AOGC thread and hoping I would be around when it was run. I'm really sorry that I happened to be busier than normal for the few cycles I was alive. Death came all too swiftly. I'm glad we got some trust for Cadcom over my lynch at least.
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Ha, I was pretty excited about Mist's lynch. I was very pleased that I had finally done anything for the elims who I considered my real team... Right up until they wouldn't stop targeting me. As soon as you wouldn't give me a turn to breathe, I became the shield of the village and started spilling all my secrets. I only wrote two of the verses in the song, but I'm glad you enjoyed it! I'm also very glad that someone with a better mind for music helped patch it up. I can't believe I knew exactly what was going to happen and I couldn't do anything to stop it. Well played @Matrim's Dice @Ashbringer @Ventyl @Kings_way. You deserved the win. I needed to have lined up an adjudicator, but to my knowledge, I was the only one. I'll check the spreadsheet in a minute to see if that was true. And because I can't make a post for this game without insane multiquotes, I'll spoil it so I don't take up my own page. Thank you all! this was an amazing game, and I think this is my favorite role I've played in literally hundreds of games of mafia. I absolutely love the duality of wanting the elims to win without being allowed to team up with them. The extra life and deo mechanic allowed the role to play to it's utmost and I can't think of a better ending (even if I had to die to get there). Ninja'd by Kynedath, but I'll read that after I post THANK YOU @Kynedath and @Zillah
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interesting... wait stop
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It's because if you all are right that I am the monk, a last minute hammer lynch on me has the chance of killing me. Then the elims can kill someone during the night and win the game. If we trust Xino and Vapor to be village, they would not hammer me, because it causes the elims to win. If you don't trust one or both of them, they still may switch with the hammer to end the game. Now that King's Way has four votes, two of you voting for him would have to switch to me. Unfortunately for the spy, I also think Kings Way is an elim so the game will now continue as planned. Thank you all for participating in this lynch! Also I wish you the best of luck on homework
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I've realized what is actually happening here. There were no posts because there are at least two active elms. All they have to do is have two votes in the last minute and they have won the game. GG if that works. for the village to even have a chance at this point, we need to have two village votes on someone who is not me and then it's only a fifty-fifty chance at best. Three votes on anyone who isn't me will give the village another cycle. Double Ninja'd Thank you! If anyone doesn't trust either Vapor or Xino, please also vote for King's way (or anyone you think is bad, but you'll need to be pretty convincing), because either or both of them can still switch in the last minute.
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Once again... Villagers have no reason here not to lynch. The elims CANNOT afford to lynch a villager. So all villager please vote! If you are voting for a villager, the lynch will do what they can to alter it to either me or an elim. Then you can lynch the elim. Please Vote! Double posting for effect and because is has been almost three hours.
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... So it sounds like we are lynching Kingsway or Vapor? With 5 hours left neither is defending themself. The other option is to wait and do this all again next cycle (and maybe the next). I think we should have a vote. If we ignore the spy, we are at a normal lylo and we have enough information to make an informed lynch. Also, without the exec sec, putting it off a cycle will not give us any new information. We just have another 72 hours of witty banter. Which I'm all for by the way, but it doesn't help us solve the game. The only people benefited by not voting are the elims because it may get to a point where I run out of protection. (Emphasis on may). I think we decide the game now. That way to stay alive, the elims have to lynch one of their own.
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Haha Yeah, You had some of the better reasons for trust among all the reads... but maybe that's what you want me to think
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I honestly believe that venture lynching an elim unprovoked is a reason to read him village. Xino claiming Iadon is a reason to read him village until there is a counterclaim. I grant reading you as an elim was a joke in that post because I thought it was obvious that I read you as village there.
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Another try at my reads list: Xinoehp - Is just active enough to follow along in the elim doc and probably the one submitting kills. Laying low to escape detection and doing a pretty decent job. Elim Ashbringer - Is claiming to be the monk to escape being lynched. Fades pretty well into the background by joking with me. Hasn't really tied himself to any lynch. Elim Matrim's Dice - lynched Silberfarben and Illwei and claims not to have been on to save Ventyl, but if he had, maybe he could have changed that lynch. Elim Elkanah - Chaotically unhelpful to the village. Clearly trying to undermine valid lynch efforts by spreading information and misinformation in equal parts. Lynch on sight. Elim Kings Way - Was suspicious while he was here and that hasn't really changed since he left. Elim Lotus - Claimed adjuntator day one. Seemingly can't be killed. Every person who ever went after Lotus was summarily lynched. Is she being protected by someone? Elim Vapor - staying pretty quiet. Was added to the trusted group before it was possible for her to be scanned. Could be a mole? Elim Butt Ad Venture - Bussed a teammate for village cred. Hasn't really been here, but that might change if we were to actually accuse another of his teammates. Elim Like what? I thought all of those were reasons to trust them? EDIT Gah I did it again! Ashbringer should do this. They would be 1000% better at it than I am
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Ooh, interesting point. but that means I can't just trust people who don't want to kill Ashbringer or me. Now I have to think harder about this. Sure Xinoehp - claimed Iadon to Mist. I believe he has been lying low to escape detection. I'm afraid it didn't work. I'd feel bad about outing you except you are safe because the elims seem to have decided they will exclusively target me until the last syllable of recorded time. Mechanically village Ashbringer - Is the only one who could have protected me the first night I died. Therefore the only logical candidate for the Monk. He has protected me since and I am happy to be the scapegoat of infinite protection. Village aligned Matrim's Dice - The only villager left who I believe is actually trying to solve the game. The elims seem content just to wait until I run out of Deo (jokes on them), but Matrim feels genuine in trying to figure out the game. Village Elkanah - Village Kingpin. need I say more? My dealings may be illicit, but this city wouldn't run half as smoothly without me in it. I have ascended from mere assistant and strategist in LG69 to King of the underworld in LG 70! Village but scary Kings Way - Has not been on enough to submit kills reliably. It could be that there is only one active elim left, but I don't want to count on it. I honestly thought Silberfarben was an elim and he wasn't. Plus, I think people tend to stay more engaged when they are elims because they have a team supporting and depending on them. Village inactive Lotus - Was tunneled on by the only known elim. Made a claim day one that an elim is unlikely to make. was in a trusted group with the seer... Elim Vapor - Claimed (and kinda proved) Socialite. We've already had one village socialite lynched, but that in no way means we couldn't have had two socialites on the same team. Was trusted by the seer. Village Butt Ad Venture - Should vote more. Voted and lynched the only elim we've found so far. It wasn't necessary to bus a teammate, and they weren't at lylo. Village We couldn't have lynched Silberfarben without you. And Illwei. That's a couple. Exactly! You would want to lynch who you thought the spy was if you were an elim. I think you are not an elim because you don't want to lynch who you think is the spy. Of course, as you pointed out, elims could bus other elims at this point so, not everyone who doesn't go after Ash or me is cleared, but those who do are not cleared. EDIT Shoot, my reads list is unhelpful. Here let me try again...
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Fair enough. He has led a lynch on at least two villagers. Here's where the rubber meets the road for me. He thinks I'm the spy, and he's not trying to lynch me for it. Clearly the elims want nothing more than my death, and yet he hasn't called for it once. Although, they have probably realized that I know who the adjudicator is and have rightly imagined that I have asked them to prevent me from being lynched, so that line of evidence isn't quite as reliable. I understand that he is your biggest suspicion (and I have disagreed), but if you are convinced why haven't you voted? @Vapor @Kings_way @xinoehp512 @Butt Ad Venture Who do you think are the elims? do you have any reasons?
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I am really interested to know why you suspect Matrim. Is there something he's done recently (or not recently), or is it just gut. I guess he voted for Mist, but there was no way he could have known she was the exec sec. What do you think of Kings Way now that Matrim is no longer voting for him? What about my other suggestion of Venture? I'm almost willing to suggest we kill a villager. Ashbringer has been very kind and deserves a win. Speaking of @Ashbringer, would you be willing to give us some reads that we can think way too hard about trying to guess if they are village or not.
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I object that I can't vote. But at least Ashbringer can vote, so the spy is still at large. Also, thank you for the protection. It looks like I needed it after all. I would definitely not vote for kingsway even if I could. Likewise I recommend not voting for Vapor or Xino. That leaves Lotus Matrim and venture. Matrim is the guy who votes to lynch people, so we should leave him. My opinion (not vote) is Lotus
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so would you say I should night kill him if given the chance? Or do you have another target in mind?
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Ha no, I have enough to protect myself twice in these three cycles. If I don't protect myself tonight I have a little less than 130 deo wcih works for the other two nights
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I agree. I am very disappointed that we lynched a villager. What a wasted cycle. Although we have decided not to discuss lynch stuff during the nights, maybe the elims don't have an adjudicator? Or maybe they do and they are very bad at guessing. I am just short of having enough deo for a murder contract, but lets pretend I did have enough. Who does everyone think I should take a murder contract out on? Since Ashbringer unlocked his roleblock/bodyguard ability, I might be free to get a kill in really fast. @xinoehp512 @Ashbringer @Matrim's Dice @Kings_way @Lotus @Vapor @Butt Ad Venture Lotus and Vapor and Xino would probably all agree I shouldn't kill any of the three of them. Maybe I kill king's way really fast so we don't have to worry about whether he's coming back (please come back King's way). Xino's looking pretty suspicious with the way he pops in and goes like a ghost in the night. Thoughts? And as always, don't bother attacking me elims. You have bigger fish to fry.
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Hello? Edit Where's the last five minute votes?
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Yes, but she wants to kill who she thinks is the spy is how i meant to say it
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matrim Guys, it's lotus She thinks shes killing the spy edit i mean wants to kill
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Hilariously, yes! Vapor has started a PM with someone every turn. So PM reasons are why she's not submitting kills XD That's the spirit! Now they'll never know it's you XD EDIT to speak to Matrim's frustrations Here is the basic ebb and flow of the PM M: hello L: hello E:hello I'm an arrogant smartypants because I know things M: you know things? Also, don't kill Xino. E: i know things like you are Iadon or exec sec and Lotus made this Pm L: i did not make this PM V: I made this PM. E: oh yeah I knew that. I was testing you. M: don't kill xino M: kill Kingsway L: okay E: maybe Now you are caught up There's another PM with Xino that I'm not in.
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I agree. Nobody vote for Matrim. Also, Kings way isn't submitting the kills... So we lynch Vapor? Wait, Vapor also isn't submitting kills. Hmm ashbringer is the spy... So we lynch Lotus?
