Arraenae
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Lemonelon. If we have four skaa, one in each House, then she's the last one. It could explain the lack of a skaa kill, if the times when Randuir went to the ball matched with the lack of a kill. Lemon hasn't been very active here or in the House doc.
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Maybe it's some mix of village and elim vote manips? 3 elim vote manips seems overpowered for a team. This looks really bad for Arinian.
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@Doc12, @randuir, and @manookla the ookla, did Arinian ever roleclaim in your doc, and if he did, what did he claim?
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Bah. Arinian, your claim feels really, really off. :/ Could easily be an attempt to avoid being lynched. @other House 1 peeps, did Arinian ever claim in your doc? @randuir, did you ever scan Arinian?
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For all those people saying that I didn't change much with my Asterion vote, you know that I voted on him D1, right? I didn't just tack on a vote at the last minute as an elim ploy to distance myself. I got back from cheer practice, caught up on the thread, and saw that the lynch was either on Megasif and Asterion. (I didn't know exactly what the votes were at. I'm lazy and rely on others for my vote tallies. :P) I didn't want my Housemate to die and the other lynch was on someone that I was already a little suspicious of and the arguments for lynching him sounded good. @Arinian, why the storms did you put in a kill order if you're not a coinshot? EDIT: Arinian's name is mentioned 5 times in our doc.The two times are when Megasif said that he was going to vote on Arinian. Alv discussed he vote with him. The third time was his action on N2 was announced. Nobody really responded. The only thing that might count as a reaction is when Rebecca says that Alv is dead. The fourth time is when Lemon said she thinks the Coinshot is from House 1 and asked who we thought it was, and I said Arinian because of the action we caught. The fifth time is from the playerlist at the bottom. Not very exciting.
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The Houses got revealed this cycle and I thought there were multiple coinshots (3 attacks on Platt). There still might be more of them. Basically, it was a House secret-ish/stuff we knew but couldn't do stuff about but the Houses got revealed this cycle. Bah, it's late. Goodnight all. Hope this thing made sense. Also, autocorrect sucks. Autoerrorcatching too.
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@TheMightyLopen, we might be able to. Can't you order them to do stuff yourself though? Also, Shaneysrus isn't House 3. We had Megasif instead. Lopen, I feel like Doc and Randuir can't both be elims, because otherwise Doc gains nothing from telling you Rand's role. He'd be risking you asking the question of how Randuir isn't dead yet, which doesn't help the elims at all unless they want to buss someone when two of them are already dead. It seems most plausible as Elim Rand/village Doc with suspicions. N2, my House found that Arinian targeted Phatt with a kill order. Alv was the skaa kill that cycle, so Arinian had to be a coinshot. Based off of the way Arinian's been kind of silent, I think he's trying to slip under the radar. If Arinian has any cycles where his actions weren't accounted for and there was a kill, he's probably the elim coinshot. It doesn't look like the skaa in House 1 has been found either.
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Thank you Lopen. Here's my reads, off the top of my head: Player list: 2. Dorvan Tekiel - Randuir: He's been activeish, but not as much as he seemed to be in other games. He also voted against the Asterion lynch. Slightly elim. At the ball last night, if anyone cares.5. Selina Khrom - Lemonelon: Inactive?7. Adela - Brightness Radiant: Far more inactive than I remember her being in other games. Maybe it's a sign that she's an elim? @TheMightyLopen, how busy is BR now?11. Alizarin Kenandera - Sami: Inactive?12. Manukos: Inactive? Not very helpful.14. Darquez - ShaneysRus: Inactive? I'm going to feel very sad if the next person on this list is inactive too.17. Cassandra Bane - Rebecca: ...and she'd inactive. Oh joy.18. Rhiannon Aurette - Arraenae: Village, duh. I know I haven't been the most active...I've been too engrossed in reading Worm fanfic lately. Oops.19. Lady Noodlington - A Budgie: I remember that she voted on Asterion D1. She was at the ball last night. NAI, have to look at her more closely. The Asterion vote could have been a distancing tactic or evidence that she's not an elim.20. Faron Elverein - Arinian: He's been RPing a bit. I don't remember that much contribution from him.23. Jonas - LivingLegend: He put down the vote that tipped the lynch to Asterion. Probably a villager. It's a shame he's inactive.24. Doc: He's plenty active when it comes to RPing, but I don't remember much discussion from him. It could be an elim tactic to make him seem alive while not contributing anything meaningful to the discussion.25. Lopen: Probably a villager, considering his early Drake vote. Active too. Probably the most influential player discussion-wise this game.27. Jerol - Young Bard: Inactive. Is it possible that there were some active skaa last night, but they were sent to the ball and couldn't kill without bringing down a mountain of suspicion down on them, since there were only three people there total, and a death would put that down to two? 354 words, woo!
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Can someone post an updated player list? I'm planning on giving out my general reads on each player, but I'm not digging through the LG40 quicklinks on a phone for something that's going to be a few cycles off. Just to clear some things up: @TheMightyLopen, when I last minute voted Asterion, I'd just come back from cheer practice, which I normally have on Mondays and Wednesdays from t3-5:40 PST. I prefer not to catch up on the thread on a phone during a waterbreak when I can be socializing instead. Has this post hit 200 words yet? Oh, nope. Copying things into a wordcounter on a phone is a pain. [9 hours later...] There's only so much fluff I can put into this post, so I'm giving up and posting it now. I'll ISO Rand once I get on something with a bigger keyboard.
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Just going back until I can find the vote that tipped the lynch onto Asterion. Final vote tally: Tipping point: Unless the elims decided to bus an elim D3, Legend seems very obviously village. Unfortunately Megasif's vote, which created the tie, is kind of NAI because it was done for self preservation. If both Megasif and Asterion were elims, a random voter dying would be more favorable than an elim dying. A villager would also want to do a self preservation tie vote, because at least they know they're 100% village, where a random voter could be an elim. I'm also slightly suspicious of people who didn't take part in this lynch at all, because an elim might not have wanted to risk getting involved by either bussing a teammate or voting for a potentially village Megasif. That list of people would be, copying from the handy player list up top: 4. Lawrence Arthur - Roadwalker 5. Selina Khrom - Lemonelon 10. Darium - Cloudjumper 11. Alizarin Kenandera - Sami 14. Darquez - ShaneysRus 17. Cassandra Bane - Rebecca 19. Lady Noodlington - A Budgie 21. Stephan - Shqueeves 22. Lutha Erikell - Phattemer 27. Jerol - Young Bard Ignore the numbers, I'm just leaving them in here to hopefully pad out the wordcount. It looks like the people who didn't vote last cycle were also the quieter people. Inactivity isn't good. so can y'all reach out to these people in your House Docs and PMs and ask them to vote? As a corollary, the lack of votes today is pathetic. Seriously. We need activity and votes!
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Probably an elim coinshot. I'm going to take a look at the votes last cycle, probably around 5-6 PM PST. If I don't by then, please ping me. I've been kind of out of this game because of Civ 5 and a variety of other factors, so I'm going to try to make up for that today.
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I think probably was elim kill, because DA was obviously not an elim with his Asterion vote last cycle. There's a chance that it was a House war kill or inactivity mercy kill, but that seems less likely.
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Assuming the cycle isn't over: Asterion, since the reasons people gave for voting on him seem sound.
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Remind meto ISO Asterion later, when I have computer/tablet access. Typing on a phone is just ugh.
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I think Roadwalker is slightly elimmy. Roadwalker starts with RP and suggests that an Atium misting or a Mistborn could find skaa. It's kind of a weird comment, but mostly NAI. He also asks about hemalurgy. In a later post, he said that his idea was related to an earlier LG. Roadwalker RPs a lot. Roadwalker poke votes Bard for being inactive two and a half hours before rollover. This type of vote doesn't seem very useful. Roadwalker acknowledges that he was doing this to follow the trend of pokevoting inactives. Overall, it's a very weak vote, and slightly elimmy. In the next post, Roadwalker defends himself by saying that one can gain favor for discussing strategy and that he didn't realize they cycle was about to end. He retracts his vote. I suppose it's fair enough justification, since it feels like his questions were forced attempts to be clever with the system and pad out wordcount. (Note: @Ookla the Walker of Roads, you only get favor for strategy posts that are 200 words or over.) Very very slightly village, since it seems like a villager would care more about favor than an elim. Roadwalker defends himself rather flippantly. Roadwalker suggests that Phatt could be an elim who hoped to bus Drake. Seems rather paranoid, because elims lose a lot if a teammate dies D1. Later when BR brings that point up, he says that she is "arguing the point of the skaa". Slightly elim, now that we know Phatt was village and it could have been an attempt to sow suspicion. Not as elimmy as it could be because we also know Phatt was hit with 3 kills in the same turn, so other people were suspicious of him too. Roadwalker says that elims win through clever ploys and bussing is one tactic that they could use. Uh...I disagree (constantly coming up with clever ploys is exhausting, but this ISO isn't the place to talk about that. Roadwalker votes on Phatt for self preservation and says that he can claim if his housemates let him. I think deferring to his housemates is rather villagery, because this is a faction game. Then Road says that Alv PMed him and said to go for a House win, not nobles-over-skaa win. He suggested that Alv was a skaa because of this. Personally, I think this shows that Road is kind of inexperienced with faction games and hasn't developed a ruthless side yet, which isn't surprising considering the lack of faction games recently. Road says that Alv didn't reveal his role. I'm inclined to believe him, especially since Alv doesn't seem like the type to roleclaim early (or at all). Overall, Road seems NAI leaning elim. Elimmy enough to raise an eyebrow, but not enough to be a strong lynch candidate. With both Phatt and Alv dead, he also loses his value for information, too. Road.
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This line from @randuir's read on DA stuck out to me. If DA is an elim, why would that mean the skaa must be unevenly distributed? That's not a very logical assumption. Sure a lynch margin by at least two votes would be nice, but why do you want to vote for Megasif in particular? What makes Megasif a worthy candidate of death over anyone else?
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Remind me to ISO Roadwalker later. Contents of the letter have been changed slightly so as not to trip the no-copying-from-PMs rule. Knock, knock, knock. No response. Knock, knock, knock. No response. Knock, knock, knock. "Riri, it's me." No response. Silence. A soft sigh. Footsteps. Fading away. More silence. No response. >>--< 0 >--<< There was a letter under the door. Riri glanced at it, then away. It had to be from Gale. Let him send all the letters he wanted, she couldn't find the energy to care. She wrapped Variel's suitjacket more tightly around her and determinedly tried not to think of the letter. It didn't exist. It didn't exist. It niggled at her mind like a loose tooth that needed to be pulled. It didn't exist. It was still there. Alright, fine, so it existed. Riri got up, picked that damned letter off the ground, and sank back into her chair. It took another few minutes to work up the willpower to open it. Riri squinted at the words through puffy eyes. Riri, you refused to open the door today She had refused. She'd been unable to bring herself to open the door. so I had to send you this letter. Riri snorted. Not like he needed an excuse to write. Gale had always liked seeing the curvature of his own handwriting, especially after reading that Prince of the Bracelets series by whoever it was, Joe R. R. Tekiel, which was entirely too boring for what it claimed to be about. Gale had used words like "fortuitously", "doughty", and "sword-thain" for months. Sister, please understand. I opposed Variel and Kyrain No. No no no no no. In, out, in, out, in, out. Breathe, Riri. Those names didn't exist. Riri would pretend she had never read those names. She took out a handkerchief to dab her suddenly wet eyes, and read on. never meant In. Out. Skip. Please, Riri, open the door. The house feels so empty without you. The rest of the letter blurred behind the tears in Riri's eyes. She wiped her eyes more. I love you, Riri. Missing you, Gale It even was in that silly, ornate calligraphic scrawl, too. In. Out. In. Out. In -- Oh, screw this horsecrap, she couldn't hold the tears in any longer. Riri sobbed into her handkerchief. Variel was dead, Kyrain was dead, and a whole lot of other nobles too but she didn't know them, just Variel and Kyrain, Variel and Kyrain -- no, no, not them, don't think of them don't think of them don't think of them. In, out, in, out. Gale, who had disliked them both, was behind that door. He hadn't wanted them to die. That much Riri had picked up from skimming the letter. Oh, Gale... In, out. In, out. Bawling her eyes out, suitjacket forgotten, Riri forced herself up and walked to the doorknob. She placed her hand on it. In. Out. In. Out. Breathe. Breathe, Riri, breathe. She gathered her courage and opened the door. @Ookla the Healer
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A skaa stabbed Alv in the writeup, so I think the kill hit Alv.
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@Darkness_, why do you say that any other Atium misting in House 3 must be skaa?
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Almost like our senses of fun don't involve random people dying...
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Riri stared blankly at the wall ahead, with Variel's suitjacket draped around her shoulders. Mountains of half-filled out ledgers surrounded her, like mute old friends. They spoke in terms of yards of cloth and profit margins and labor costs and imported dyes, just words on paper, yet somehow real. Not real enough to let Riri escape the reality that Variel was dead. Kyrain too. Riri dipped her pen in ink. Plop. Ink dripped down onto the paper below. Plop. Plop. Black ink mingled and spread to form a splotchy, illegible mess. Plop. Riri would have to fix it. Later. She couldn't bring herself to care. Plop. She fumbled for a sweet in the bowl next to her and stuffed it into her mouth. It tasted of saccharine ashes in her mouth. She reached for another piece anyways. In the distance, a door creaked open then closed. Galen, off to party at the ball. He had ample reason to celebrate the death of Riri's boyfriend and ex-boyfriend. She could just imagine him laughing with Lady Adela on his arm, dancing at the ball with a smug smile on his face. Screw Galen, what right did he have to be happy now that Variel and Kyrain were dead? Riri picked up a ledger and tore it in half. Then again, and again, and again. It didn't make her feel any better. It didn't make her feel any worse, either. Riri grabbed the next piece of ledger. Rip, rip, rip. Soon the whole stack for this month lay before her in pieces. Rip, rip. There went the previous moth's stack too. Meticulous records of yards of cloth and profit margins and labor costs and imported dyes gone in a single moment. Like Variel and Kyrain. Riri laid her head down in her arms, wrapped in Variel's suitjacket, and sobbed.
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You know that a noble joint win isn't a real win con, right?
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I won't be online for most of today.
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Mine, for one.
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D1 vote analysis. Drake, as an elim, is going to be in orange. Whoever has the most votes is bolded. Tallies are in quoteboxes to make them stand out. Before the tie shenanigans, 1 hour 4 minutes before rollover: Drake, Road, and Ast are at a 3 way tie with two votes each. Not a good situation for the elims, because the lynch could easily be tipped to Drake and it's possible that in the event of a tie, all the tied lynchees die. Chances are, the elims want to tip the vote to someone else instead. I think it's possible that Phatt could be an elim who started out pokevoting a teammate and then retracted once he realized something could happen to Drake. This vote switch puts someone else to the lynch and even creates another buffer lynch of Ast instead of Drake. If Road is village, then the elims didn't really need another lynch train to tie with it, because then it would be 3 - 3 - 1 instead of 3 - 2 - 1, which still would require another two votes to lynch Road either way. Alv's vote would be village-NAI, keeping in mind that if Road was village and Alv was elim Alv would probably still gfet a kick out of seeing what happened in a tie. If Road is an elim, then Alv's vote looks less villagery, which puts it back at NAI. If Ast is an elim, then Alv's vote is also NAI. Tl;dr version: If Road is village, Alv is a little more likely to be village Phatt really wants someone to die. Also, he seems to be keeping track of the votes. Okay, now I'm curious why Alv switched to Drake instead of Road, which would have put the votes at 3 - 3. By switching to Drake, Alv made the votes into 3 - 2 - 2, which isn't a tie. If Road is an elim, then Alv's actions here also come across as a little elimy. And Phatt switches to Drake for some unknown reason. The votes are still 3 - 2 - 2. I think this makes Phatt more villagery, because he could have kept to the previous lynch without pushing Drake to the lead. And Alv retracts his vote, happy that things are now back at a 3 way tie. Meanwhile, many player's heads explode trying to comprehend it all. ...I don't even want to specuilate what Ast got from voting for himself. There were smarter ways to break the tie than to proffer himself up for the gallows. Straw jumps in with a vote on Drake. With all of the vote jumping that's going around, I think the elims would be wary of trying to make a tie, so this really pushes up Straw's villagery rating for me. Alv made things a tie again. Ugh. At least we know that he was paying attention to the votes? Phatt jumps to Ast to break the tie. Nevermind what I said earlier about Phatt's Drake vote making Phatt look more villagery now, since this action makes it NAI. Asterion's self-preservation instinct finally kicks in and he votes on Road. This puts Road up for the lynch. The vote tally as of 6:00 PM PST, or 7:00 PM MST, which is rollover. Alv makes things a tie. And Phatt gets the last laugh just as rollover hits. If Road is an elim, it seems more likely that Phatt is village. Unfortunately, the brain-breaking doesn't end there, since Ast, Phatt and even Straw keep going. I'm not going to look at those unless they counted for the final vote tally. @DroughtBringer, for clarity, which, if any, of the post-rollover votes did you accept? Overall, I think Alv is more likely to be village if Road is village, and Phatt is more likely to be village if Road is an elim, because of how the votes played out.
