DiscoDubber

Hey... Isn't Stormform described with having strange ridges under tight skin? Anyway, here's my take. •Sand is likely from White Sand (which hasn't been mentioned, but its now canon, as its being produced as a graphic novel). •Flower is likely a Tear (it may not be "powerful" in its own right, but it is used in Investiture, much as metal on Scadrial). •I agree the dagger is from Forests of Hell. •I think the "hairpins" are hemolurgic spikes, possibly Kandra blessings. •I'm unsure about the hair. It could be Iriali, or it could be Royal Locks (Vasher is on Roshar... Where's Vivenna?). •I don't think the branch is a Dakhor bone. •I definitely don't think the crystal is an Atium Geode. Considering that we only just found out in Bands of Mourning about the Hunters that Iyatil appears to be a part of, so its not a stretch to say we may not have seen the crystal yet, canonically speaking. Also, I do NOT buy Hoid=Mraize. True, they both seem to be collecting artifacts that pertain to Investiture, but that means little. Hoid, although mysterious and mischievous at times, seems to be a white hat character (if you don't understand what I mean, in old Westerns, the good guys almost always wore white hats, the bad guys almost always wore black hats. Light side, dark side...). Although we don't know his intentions, he seems to be, especially in Stormlight, trying to encourage the heroes. If we get to the end of all this and it turns out that Hoid is actually a villain, I'll be heartbroken. Mraize does not strike me as a white hat. He may not be a black hat, but I don't think he has any altruistic motives...

SAY WHAT, NOW?! Where do you get that from?! I've been through both books dozens of time and have never picked up on that. Is this something we have by Word of Brandon? But now that you mention it, they are large like parshendi, a mixed heritage could explain the odd red hair, and this could also explain why they can see spren. My head's on fire...

The interludes would be a difficult call. The purists would want them in, the production team might want them out as many of the interludes feel like filler or fluff (not saying they are, just that a less invested viewer could see them as such).The issue with leaving many of them out is I suspect they'll play into the plot in a stronger way later. If Hollywood sticks to its typical operation, they'd release the books independently of each other. Some of these side characters may come into bigger play in Stormlight 3. As for live-action vs animation... Both have their merits, and although I lean more to live-action due to its more organic feel, lets examine animation: Animation removes the struggle of finding the perfect LOOKING actor, and opens a broader door for casting. A great example of this is who I HEAR playing Gavilar is someone I'd NEVER cast for a live-action show... Liam Neeson. Also, animation opens the world up. Set builders and location personnel would have a hell of a time finding Roshar on Earth, let alone the Shattered Plains. So they'd have to build rather elaborate sets or CGI the setting and film in green screen. Animation allows for a custom fit world. Many animated movies look gorgeous. The art in Prince of Egypt is still beautiful... An animated feature would not have to be Anime. They could even do live-capture animation where real people form the models for the animated characters, so they move realistically. They did this in several movies. 2 that stick out is Sméagol in LOTR, and the entire Polar Express film. They can make it cartoonish or try to make it realistic, or they could go halfway. I kinda like the idea of an animated show. The question would be viewership. Although, Prince of Egypt was a box office smasher, so that may not be as big an issue as it may seem...

*sits quietly in the back corner of the room, watching the action unfold with a sadistic smirk...* I absolutely LOVE the idea of David Tennant as Hoid! It's not like the man's ever played an ageless, practically immortal, sarcastic smartass time traveler that's incredibly wise before...

I see... Hooray for mystery dots! lol

And to be fair, my brother doesn't like Chris Pine for Adolin... ​

Maxal, I say lets agree to disagree before this debate turns into an argument and the thread gets shut down. You do have many valid points. Why do I think Chris Pine would be a good Adolin? Because I see many resemblances between Adolin and characters Chris has played in the past. Yes, James T. Kirk is one of those. Are there many other young actors who could pull off the role of 24 year old Adolin as well, even better than Chris? Absolutely. Can't think of one right now... 25 years old max? Maybe for 20 year old Kaladin and Shallan. 1 year difference is negligible. Are all people cast in roles for their own age group? No! For example, Alan Ruck was 30 years old when he played 17-18 year old Cameron in Ferris Bueller's Day Off, Rachel McAdams was 27 when she played a 16-17 year old in Mean Girls (8 years older than Lindsay Lohan), and Stockard Channing was 34 when she played 17 year old Frenchie (the beauty school dropout) in Grease (She was on husband #3 at the time). I understand your points. Lets make friendly like and drop the debate over age.

I was actually thinking of Jim's voice. I get my inspiration from the way the characters are voiced in the audio books. Kate Reading's choice kinda reminded me of Jim Parsons. Yes the Sheldon aspect has merit to it, but since this is a voice role, that loses a bit as you don't see Sheldon. It was mostly the voice. As far as Clancy Brown goes, I hadn't really known who you were talking about until I googled him. Yes! If you were to dye the hair black with some white at the temples and shave the goatee, he'd look the part. I have seen some of his stuff (other than Mr. Krabs), but I don't remember his voice. It's said he has a deep, resonate voice. That plus his height usually lands him in the part of villains or authority figures, which would play in nicely...

Question... What do the bullets under the profile picture mean?

ugh... Hard vote. This is like asking which is better: Dark Side of the Moon or The Wall?...

I can't even do that. lol

Russell Crow is indeed starting to show his age. He's probably still more handsom than Dalinar is supposed to be. But just like the age thing, Hollywood is known to make allowances on things (one only needs to look at the Marvel and DC Comics movies to see this). It could be acceptable in the grand scheme to cast older actors for younger characters (as long as it seems believable) as well as actors that don't quite fit the descriptions. This is why book/comic nerds always get mad when thier favorite books get turned into movies or shows. The artistic license. Also realize that even with a long format miniseries, say 2 hours run time per episode, they will still cut out story ("non-important" interludes, minor plot devices), move things around (i.e. Kaladin's last battle in Amaram's army from both points of view would likely be merged into one, and would probably be placed in the later flashback spot), and change minor (even major if they deem it necessary) details to fit time, budget, and feasibility constraits. I wouldn't expect the landscape to match the one Brandon describes, because where will you find the Shattered Plains on Earth? And If you could find a location, would it be cost effective to film there? Same goes for set building and green screen/ CGI. Actors are the same. The characters are figments of Brandon's imagination, and may or may not be inspired by a real person. Also, considering how long he's been working on these stories, anyone that may have inspired a character probably doesn't much resemble that character anymore. So a casting crew will take rough descriptions of apparent age and other characteristics, as well as personalities and try to find the best actor they can find to play that character. "Could Chris Pine play Adolin?" "Yes." "Why?" "He's young. Maybe not 26, but could be made believable. He's got the right attitude. Sarcastic and a little narcissistic without being obnoxiously so. He's dashing and debonair with a charming smile..." And in the end, let's be honest. Most viewers of said show or movie will not have read the books. Hollywood caters to this crowd rather than the smaller group of sticklers most movie-goers ignore when they start complaining about the differences. So if you're the type who watches the Lord of the Rings movies and gets pissed because "that's not how it happened in the books. The books are so much better than the movie..." then you will likely not be happy with anything they'd do if they made a Stormlight movie/ show. All I'm trying to do with this little game of mine is fill the imaginary shoes of a Hollywood producer trying to cast a movie in realistic terms. Although, I'm leaning more miniseries.Longer episodes than a TV show, more space for those details that may get cut from a movie. We are talking about books that translate into 48 hour long audio books...

For some reason my mind read this as "I have no one to HOID..." I'm not nearly drunk enough...

"Rock" it is, then...

I'm not sure who Sam Claflin is. I've not seen any of the works you listed. But from his Google images, he LOOKS the part. Although at 29, he may be too old to play a 19-20 year old... Robert Carlyle would be an interesting Hoid, but is he right for "Wit"? Is he snarky enough without being obnoxiously unlikable. I don't mean this as an insult to him or his skill as an actor. But all I've sampled of his work is SGU, Eragon, and OUAT, and from what I've sampled, he's very good at playing characters you the viewer come to hate (especially Rush). Wit, on the other hand is a likeable kind of obnoxious. Sarcastic and mischievous, but deep and caring. Satirical at the expense of people who's personalities could benefit from his caricaturizing. *I* would need a better sample size of his work, maybe something in that vein, before *I* would cast him, but he'd definitely look the part of Wit. Russell Crowe would indeed be a good Dalinar.

We'll get DreamWorks to do it... Prince of Egypt style! lol

I see. I didn't get this post until after I submitted the last one. I like the idea of the 40s on the southern continent, before the 80s tech makes Scadrial smaller...

This is all true... I suppose that the jump in "lifestyle altering" technology in the 80s was about as dramatic as it was in the late 19th century. Computers, entertainment, fashion, communication... everything changed in the 80s. So I definitely see what you mean, and may even agree that it would be better. Aside from an Art Deco/ Neo-Gothic look and taller buildings, not much from Elendel will likely have changed dramatically. Cars are probably bigger and sleeker and have completely replaced horses. While electricity is everywhere, every business establishment has blazing neon signage, and street lamps are placed every 20 feet, somehow the streets are darker... Fashion has changed. I'm thinking 40s Chicago. Always damp, dark, and foggy, always in black & white. But it the 40s are monochrome, then the 80s are fluorescent. PCs, Walkmans, Camcorders, Atari, Nintendo, MTV, "The Brick" cellular phone. Lifestyles took on different motivations. Cars, for example, which had been (at least in America) designed and consumed for large size, high comfort, and status, were now being designed and consumed for high efficiency and low cost. Fashion and music were reeling in rebellion of the Disco era. And society was reeling in rebellion, too. I think both eras have merit. Its a good question, no?

So I was just looking at Brandon's website and saw his aging update from last December. He says he plans a total of 4 of these shorter 1890s era books, then he's thinking about a trilogy of longer books placed either in a 1980s tech world or maybe a 1940s age. Personally, I kinda like the sound of a 1940s age a bit better, plus it fits well in the "natural" progression of technology. If one thinks about it, technology didn't really make any big leaps in Europe and America during the 16 and 1700s. Society was still based in an Imperial feudal system, one moved around on foot, carried by porters, on horses, in horse drawn vehicles, or by ship, all of which barely changed in the grand scheme. By the American Civil War in the mid-1800s, technology was beginning to move, especially and as always on the military front, with firearms developing rather quickly from powder-and-ball flintlock types to modern bullet rounds and from single shot to semi-automatic and Gatling machine guns. The civilian markets boomed at the tail end of the 1800s with the industrial revolution. Incandescent lights, automobiles, telegraphs... I love the Nikola Tesla analogy in SoS. For our world, the next boom in technological growth came in the 1930s and 40s, during and because of WWII, ending the Industrial Age and beginning the Atomic Age. I think it would only make sense for Scadrial to follow the same development path, and so maybe the next Mistborn Era should be an Atomic Age rather than skipping all the way to the dawn of an Information Age. Mistborn era 2, book 4 is tentatively being titled The Lost Metal so maybe Atium could cause a social strain that culminates into Scadrial's version of a World War... What do you think?

Chris Pine plays Captain James T Kirk in the new Star Trek movies. Kirk is mid-twenties, and Chris Pine plays it very convincingly. Many actors do this. Think of Abby Sciuto of NCIS... Abby is in her mid-to-late twenties, maybe early thirties. Pauley Perrette is actually 46. As far as hair goes, they do wonderful things these days with bleaches and dyes...

Huh... One would think that the production staff over at MacMillan Would have corrected this in the audio books. In all of the Mistborn audio books, Michael Kramer pronounces the name Kell-see-er, as does the Graphic Audio products. Kramer does pronounce Demoux "De-mew" while Graphic Audio says "Dem-mo." But then, I also don't care for other pronunciations in GA, like Duralumin -- Kramer says "der-al-la-min" while GA says "dura-loo-min." As far as Stormlight names go, I'll stick to Michael Kramer and Kate Reading's pronunciations until Brandon says otherwise.

Hey! I'm Disco (aka, Mike) from Texarkana. I'm fairly new to the fandom, as Words of Radience was just about to come out when my brother and I (both truckers, team driving at the time) discovered Way of Kings on Audible. I have since read and/or listened to nearly every Cosmere book several times. I'm a cosplayer, and my sister (whom I got hooked on Stormlight against her will...) plan to attend the 2016 Ark-La-Tex Comic Con as Kaladin and Syl (possibly Shallan instead. She hasn't made up her mind yet). I look forward to discussing and debating the nature and mysteries of the Cosmere with you all!

I considered it in WoK, but what really sold it for me was when he and Shallan were courting in WoR.

Hello, all! I thought I'd share this here, and get some input on it as well. I'm a truck driver, and as such, I rarely have time to actually crack open a book and read. So I enjoy Mr. Sanderson's work through audio books as I drive. With my overly active imagination, I began to think "What if this was a movie or a miniseries? Who would I cast in these roles?" It's kind of become a little game my brother (also a trucker) and I play, like others might play fantasy sports. So here's some of the characters and the actors I pick to play them. I want your help and feedback. Tell me what you think of my cast. Tell me who you see where. People with (?) are roles I'm not sure of. Dalinar -- Adrian Paul Jasnah -- Claudia Black Navani -- Kate Mulgrew (?) Sadeas -- Alan Rickman Szeth -- Tom Hardy (?) Adolin -- Chris Pine Syl -- Amanda Seyfried Teft -- Sam Elliott Pattern -- Jim Parsons Sebarial -- John de Lancie THIS ONE makes me chuckle because I can TOTALLY see him killing it in this role... Hoid -- "Weird Al" Yankovic (yes, he is too an actor) I kinda see Dolph Lundgren (or some other big, beefy body builder type) as Rock. My problem is the way Michael Kramer reads Rock is with a kind of Pacific Islander accent (which given the language of the Horneaters, which sounds a little Hawaiian, makes sense). So we'd have to find a tall, bulky, pale skinned actor (like Lundgren) who can do an Islander accent. With Shallan, I picked the first perky ginger that came to mind, and that was one of my favorite YouTubers and musicians, Lindsey Stirling. However, I'm not sure if she's much of an actress. This is all I can remember right now. I'll add up others as they come to me. EDIT: Just thought of another! Lopen -- Simon Pegg ​ ALSO, I know of one cameo voice appearance that I thought of (and it may have been what started this whole thing) as soon as I heard it read. Nightblood -- George Takei (Heellllooo! Would you like to slay some evil today?...)

Yes, I figured there may have been an edit feature. Sorry, I'm on the mobile site from a phone. Thanks for helping me get it straight. It's been awhile since I've listened to WoK (I'm a trucker with not a lot if time to read, so I got hooked on Brandon's work with help Audible). I'm in the process of going back through both Mistborn and Stormlight.