Amanuensis
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Sorry to hear that, Bip. For what it's worth I'm willing to consider a v!you world. I've somewhat began musing on possibilities. Will also consider joining you on TJ to see if I stop getting roleblocked.
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I kinda think Fadran is honest so would need more evidence than a theory to vote him
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Do you think e!Chadran came up with Confirmed Villager on his own? If not, who do you think would invent his role?
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Hm. If I take your word for it, I'd need to look at who's voting Bip, then. Maybe the elims blocked her kill to distract from executing an elim today? I'm tempted to vote Araris for having a role that actively supports his execution. Perhaps he felt revealing the real cause instead of suggesting vote manip was to gain some village cred, in case he ever got role scanned or RPed? I never really stopped being wary of Stick, but Drake seems more village-alligned imo. Matrim... honestly just might be an elim. I could see that explaining his recent detachedness (while caused by role discussion, I don't imagine e!Mat would care to contribute). TJ and Archer I'm still back and forth about. Gah. I don't know what the right call is. Do I trust my gut? Or do I trust Striker's? I'm lost and heartbroken that I can't even die to get spoilered in the dead doc
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Even with her lack of vote engagement? I can’t remember the last time she took part in an execution and I’m of the opinion that you, Bookwyrm, Danex, Walin, and Steel are all village, which explains a lack of necessity for participation.
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Not really
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We’d need to do it twice yeah. Or just save time by having Drake killing him. Ash’s role has no value other than to survive the exe and he will still be able to vote once
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Will note that at this point an Ash counterwagon being tied with Bip is better than a runaway train. ED1T: We can maybe keep one in the lead by a single vote for @Shining Silhouette to vote manipulate into a tie
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@Random Bystander what is the exact name of Book’s role?
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It also does pose the question of why a PM Spider would need to be untargetable to actions (especially if that doesn’t apply to NKs). You may want to shoot Archer tonight and see if that fails too. If he’s village and dies, he can still use the PMs with Araris and Wizard too. If he’s elim and he survives, that means we can only vote him. Notably, my public action was to protect Bookwyrm, though I changed more order to Troll Book during the last thirty minutes without announcing it. They knew I was Untrollable that night too, so they weren’t worried about me killing (unless they thought I was lying and secured a troll for N2, which would be a stretch) the fact they roleblocked me is also interesting. Could be as Striker says and they worried I would protect elsewhere and they didn’t want a save, but then what were the chances of me protecting Xino, their N2 NK? They didn’t even Troll Book either, according to Araris, to interfere with the Orlok scan. Perhaps hoping the possibility of interference would be enough not to clear Orlok? I don’t know. This whole situation is weird, but could be explained by the elims thinking their best course of action was to shut my roles down specifically. Occam’s razor still points to Bip tho. Does this also suggest v!Silho? Assuming the elims blocked my kill over Drake’s potential shot on him, as I had requested in thread? I’m not opposed to proving Ash’s role however. I just want a productive day ED1T: @StrikerEZ tell me why you v!read Bip?
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Hence me e!"Village"!Orlok concerns or perhaps Mat, I suppose, since he apparently doesn't have a role beyond Tunnel Constructor If @Steeldancer is now a Tie Guy, yes.
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Biplet (4): Amanuensis, Matrim's Dice, Araris Valerian, |TJ| |TJ| (2): DrakeMarshall, Ashbringer Archer (1): Shining Silhouette Steeldancer (1): Archer I've had the same village pile, yeah, which is maybe a good look for you here too? I'm a lil paranoid e!"Village"!Orlok but we need @Steeldancer to confirm if he got the Tie Guy role from Danex before I consider that possibility further ED1T: Ninja'd Yes, but also not completely since now you switched ROLES and ALIGNMENTS
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Matches my consistent village reads of Archer, just getting paranoid. If v!Archer and v!TJ, I guess I need to look into Ash, Mat, Silho, and Steel more. About four hours: So who elim then Ash? Silho?
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Is that latter thing a point in his favor or against, from your perspective?
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Okay, willing to extend TJ some mercy after that post. Perhaps naively, that felt tonally village + there is the fact he claimed Wallposter in the first place. I'm of the mind that no e!RBer would actually claim, especially when not even under pressure. I could see an E!Archer, v!TJ world, maybe? I just wonder why e!Archer would Spider v!TJ on N2. @Araris Valerian, did you and Archer talk about who to scan before he did? ED1T: Still feel certain about e!Biplet. Elims could have gotten a free kill from me last night. ED2T: Suppose that e!Sart and/or e!JNV could work too, since I also mentioned them as potential targets. Bip more likely tho.
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Whoops. Sorry about that. Accurate current vote count: Biplet (3): Amanuensis, Matrim's Dice, Araris Valerian Archer (2): Shining Silhouette, |TJ| |TJ| (2): DrakeMarshall, Ashbringer Steeldancer (1): Archer Biplet claiming the same role as you (Meme Maker) doesn't give you pause? Do you think that role fits on an elim team (maybe Bip has a second role that's more useful?) or that a PM Spider uncovered your role's name? Also, @Biplet, care to vote?
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I'd have preferred to let them reveal themselves if necessary, but at this point I think it's obvious to most players, and especially the elims (especially especially if they're elim). Anyway, UPS has been a fitting term because the player in question has the same number of capitalized letters in their name Araris and Wizard? Fair You're not covering for TJ on N3, no. But you saw him RB Mat N2, right? Are you sure you didn't see him RB Mat N1? Because I've been RB'd N2 and N3 now. If you vouch that he didn't RB me N2 then he can't be the e!Roleblocker. You only cover his N3 action by his claim of failing to RB you. What's the name of that role again? ED1T: Also, Current Vote Count: Archer (2): Shining Silhouette, |TJ| Biplet (2): Amanuensis, Matrim's Dice |TJ| (1): DrakeMarshall Steeldancer (1): Archer ED2T: Wait! @|TJ|! No way you can RB the same player twice in a row! That would be nearly as unbalanced as Goalkeepers protecting the same player twice in a row! Maybe they had to trade off? This implies Mat is village then.
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Okay, so we know at this point the elims have a Wallposter, whether it's TJ (supported by Archer on two fronts: Spidering TJ RBing Mat and TJ's RB failing on Archer) or another player (who is obviously never going to claim it). Since there's no good way to prove the second, the best step would be to kill TJ now and see if I stop getting Roleblocked. Otherwise we have to follow a different lead until a village PM Spider or RPer uncovers the e!Wallposter's role. So, PM Spiders. We know Wizard and Fae, who are, in my opinion, the most likely village. At the very least, their alignments are tied; and if we imagine an e!Fae, e!Wizard world, we'd have to ask why Fae didn't use her PMs and then PM'd Wizard this turn (she forgot and to keep up the act?). I don't find that super likely, so then we have to look at Archer and UPS, yes? I would be very surprised if the elims didn't have at least one PM Spider and that they weren't making use of them. And as I said at the start of this turn, UPS PM'd me to clarify that Archer's claim of seeing TJ's N2 result was possible, which I felt could have been a pseudo-defense of them after my Two Worlds post at the end of the night. TJ / Archer / maybe UPS? ED1T: Otherwise, I have to probably look into a e!UPS world, and then figure out how that works with the V!Mat scan ED2T: All this to say that I still want Biplet (I know I'm editing this in, but I already voted her - just doing it again for emphasis) dead. I signaled very hard that I was going to kill her last night, and if she was Village, there would be no reason for the elims to not let the kill go through.
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I still don't understand why this is a thing
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@Araris Valerian? ED1T: @Random Bystander I think I know who to scan. Verifying Mat a second time could prove both him and UPS as Village. ED2T: Oh and to clarify the first Mat scan, I suggested Mat to UPS and they immediately agreed. I forget who said they believed UPS code it themself. Maybe @Ashbringer
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@Biplet do you have a role that would similarly cause my action to fail? Same question to Shining Silhouette @The Bookwyrm (sorry @Shining Silhouette, my memory this game is so jumbled)
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I see. Archer. Is part of the reason you haven’t killed me yet because I’ve been Village reading you? I suppose it wouldn’t matter since I could still talk, but my vote would be less useful and you can render my roles useless with role blocks anyway, so… I wish Xino was still alive to Multiquote me and see who blocked me
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So you submitted an order D3 to smoke yourself? ED1T: @Araris Valerian who do you have a PM with? Archer or TJ?
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Trying to waste your action, maybe? Hm.
