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My recommendation would be to just read the new, anniversary edition. It fixes some of the flaws in the first version and isn't actually that different- unless you want to compare them logistically, there's really no reason you need to go back and read the first. The second doesn't take anything away, only adds it.

Ah, I totally want one of these! And there are at least two others not on this site who would also purchase!

I finally got ahold of this book, and this was my main source of contemplation. I believe that an important point to remember is that while this is Sazed- the same man who assisted in a revolution and lost his own love- it is also Harmony. A lot of people point out that he is restricted by the different shards he holds, but I believe that argument should be central to the discussion. How much of the decision making is Sazed, and how much is the intents of the shards? He MUST keep Preservation and Ruin equal. This is inherent to the balance of his shards. By making the mistake he did when he recreated the world, by giving them too much prosperity and growth in the beginning, he used a lot of preservation. As a result, I believe that Ruin is seeping into things as part of the natural order of his powers. Ruin is trying to re-balance society. To me, it feels like this whole situation Harmony has gotten himself into is the result of his attempts to prevent the ruin that is inevitable from destroying his pet society entirely. He knows he made a mistake, and he seems to imply that the mistake had much further consequences than just putting society behind by his account. He implies that society being behind is detrimental to them in some larger way, and that they are not prepared. This does not necessarily mean that he is not wrong to hurt Wax as he did. It only means that there is a large scope to his actions: not even by shard standards, but by more immediate standards as well. I don't think TenSoon meant that Wax knowing who the kandra was would have consequences later. I believe he meant that the immediate situation would get worse in ways they could not imagine. Every decision Harmony makes leads to a web of new possibilities. He knows that, even if we don't take into effect that he can see them. He must make every decision in a way that leads to the very best result he believes to be possible. Even as a God, that means he is GOING to make mistakes, he is going to make decisions that may seem bad or hurtful. The probability that he makes every single correct decision and saves every single life that he can is lower than I'd like. In the span of Godhood, he is still young. Honestly, rather than seeing Wax as the child being raised, I kind of see Sazed as the child that was left alone to raise himself with only books to show him what to do. He was never taught what to do, how to do it, in the world of the gods. Though, separately from that, I was still quite angry at Harmony for doing what he did. Whether his actions were right or wrong, understandable or not, they still hurt. While I agree that he did his best, that doesn't mean people don't have to feel angry, sad, or upset.

I also believe there are two scenes in which he appears near the others specifically. Both of which are him disguised as a beggar. When I get home I can quote them directly, but for now, I believe I remember him as an informant for Elend, and I also believe he was the informant Vin decided to avoid when she was trying to find information on Yomen's city. Can anyone verify? That would place him in at least two places over the course of the books that are very far from one another- why he was in these places at these specific times and where he went between is a mystery. I do agree with the Terris theory, however.

Oh, where does it say they're fighters? I must have missed it; the wiki page isn't yet complete. If that's the case, it does make lirin being viable for their order more unlikely. But I also can't see him as a wind runner for the same reason and the fact that he displays very differently from kaladin. But note I did say I personally believe it unlikely that lirin would have bonded with a Spren. It's just fun thinking about the possibilities, and I support the theory that we will see more and more join the orders past the main ten being focused on, so brandon could take it any way he wants. As to rock, yeah, i follow your reasoning. I have never heard of him changing from a warrior to a cook because of a change of station, but I know he doesn't fight because of birth order. He may or may not discard that hierarchy, we can't know now, but he would probably have to to become a stoneward. Lara's being the caretaker of hearthstone sounds wonderful. She would take to the position wonderfully. Plus, with roshone's revenge complete in that they exchanged a son for a son and kaladin never came back, I would assume he might be less harsh on Kaladin's parents. I don't know if enough time has passed for all of this to happen, though. How many years has it been since kaladin left hearthstone?

I love the ideas you've put together here. But if Kaladin's father turned out to be a radiant-- to me not necessarily likely but would be awesome-- I think I would peg him as a Stoneward rather than a Windrunner. They Lirin is resolved to allow the town to continue to depend on him. He stubbornly will not leave his home, no matter how bad it is to him. Both of Kaladin's parents display great strength every time they are shown. If Lirin was to bond with a spren, I believe he would be a Stoneward over any of the other orders. I also do hope Laral is still alive. She was politically maneuvered into an awful life the last time we saw her. She needs to outlive her husband and find real happiness.

From the moment his shardblade appeared, I thought this would be the result of one of the oaths as well. I believe that shardplate is yet another extension of Syl's powers being used for Kaladin, and follows the logic of his surges, or the same for another pair. I do believe it will be further along than oath three, though; Shallan might be support for this, as she seems to have gone beyond summoning her own weapon by at least one "truth" and does not yet have shardplate.

This is a good point. Szeth's obedience might come at least partly from his personality, but that level is rarely reached without societal pressures. If he was pushed that far, there have to be others that are the same. The question is: what will happen when they also realize how wrong they were? What will that kind of nationwide psychology produce?

Well, I look most like vin and definitely identify with her. But renarin or Elend would be better choices. I am a bookworm idealist whose had to change both my view on the world and the way I present myself to fit in and become a leader. But I also have aspergers, like the truthwatchers, and am the little sibling who isn't strong physically but would like to be.

Honestly, I don't believe the Shamans would react fast at all. They've been in denial for a long time, and it seems like parshmen either don't live there or are less common, so even after the storm passes, it's possible they could still attempt to ignore the desolation. So if Nale does intend to get the rest... anything could happen. There are too many variables. Outcome is foggy, try again later.

I first heard of Sanderson when one of my friends-- who works at a library and is always throwing new books at us to try-- lent me a copy of mistborn. I immediately loved it and am now more obsessed with the cosmere and related entities than the one who introduced me to it. Since then I've bought all of sanderson's writings that are out on paperback. I'm also considering getting the audio books for a few.

Thank you for finding that quote. I knew it existed but I forgot where it occured. But you bring up an interesting point. Can shinovar be truly safe if their culture and belief system just turned out to be a lie? That's got to bring some chaos into the mix.

They do, yes. But the ideal hair color is black, which is natural Alethi. The others are mixed in from marrying other races. And it is a different world, so they're not going to definitely be exactly like a race on earth. I mean, Adolin's hair is blonde and black naturally. Plus, with eye color, their whole society is based around it, and only the nobles have light eyes. He's likely to play around with eye color rather than stick to what most people assume is the main look for a race here.

Welcome! Do you mean to say you've read all of the cosmere books in only six weeks? Because that's pretty impressive. Vin is also one of my favorite characters- she's just an amazingly well put together character. Good luck figuring things out. It's pretty easy, but there are tons of people around who can answer any questions.

I'm fairly certain that Tanavast was simply the shareholder. He would have taken hold of the shard and its power at some point, and uses it according to his will and the nature of the shard, and is likely to think of himself in whatever form he had originally. If you look at the wiki, there is probably more information about it, relevant and not, to your question, but I am just starting to look into them myself so I know very little about Tanavast specifically.

Words of Radiance is probably my favorite as well. What others books of his have you read? If you haven't yet, I recommend reading Warbreaker. It's a fantastic smaller book.

Hi and welcome! I'm fairly new too and actually am in the process of rereading everything. Definitely recommend it! There are so many hidden little clues to look for. So what's your favorite Sanderson book?

I agree with natc. There seems to be more evidence that the Everstorm is a first for the desolations. That isn't to say that shinovar isn't safer from the storm, but at the same time, if it was safe from the Everstorm, a lot of other countries would be too. While it has one range between it and the coming storm, both of the ranges surrounding it stand between the storm and a lot more land. I assume that if that was the case, they wouldn't be nearly so worried about it coming back around, because it would always lessen in the mountains.

This is the most true to life post I've ever read. Sadly. Because that is exactly what would happen if hollywood picked this movie up right now. That's my main vote against live action.

Like a lot of people, I thought Jasnah and Syl were alive but didn't quite expect Szeth. It was suspect that his body was just left there, but then I didn't like him much either. While I understand cultural pressures, I'm also the type of person who just hates that excuse for someone doing awful things. You have some fantastic points, though. We've seen a lot of side character death in the series already, and at this point, with the series as long as it is, killing off a main character would almost amount to them losing their status as a main character. With the amount of characters in each book, killing one off would leave the death feeling slightly like it's cut a story in half. I do love GoT, but honestly it's way too much for me, and having a series where killing off main characters isn't the main way to provide shock or make character's lives awful is nice. It means we get to explore them, not wait for their inevitable loss.

Honestly, my opinion is that it's definitely more complex than that. Seloun is right that there's definitely a shown interest there, but attraction does not necessarily equal like or the possibility of a relationship. Kaladin is much more interested in his own problems at the moment, so he's unlikely to try to get between the already formed couple when he likes both of them. Shallan also has her own problems and does like Adolin as well. I think there is definitely a possibility there, but that it's a full maybe that it's viable for something more. We just won't know until we see how the three of them interact in the next book. And personally, I like Adolin and Shallan together. Shallan and Kaladin becoming besties and depending on each other and sharing stuff is much more attractive than yet another love triangle.

I chose Truthwatcher, definitely. I love the surges, because while I have a creative mind like Shallan, I don't have her memory or her courage to use it in the way she does. I also love learning. Not school or research necessarily, but just the idea and methods and action of learning in all ways. I've had to restrain myself in the giving aspect, and I have a lot of tact that mostly means I just stay silent. I'm also secretive and quiet. All in all, I can't think of a better order for me. I don't know if that's good or not. \Lightweaver would be my second. I am great at lying but very introspective and strive to help those around me reach their potential. I also participate in most Arts.

Thank you for the help! I'm glad there's not a lot of conflict, that just means this is a good group. That is a question I had: what are the uses of the user pages?

A live action of SA would be amazing if they waited and had the right technology. We're getting there- by the time it might be realistic for them to begin catching up with the books by doing a live action show, it might just be possible to succeed in showing the amazing magic system and fights. And who knows, by then it might be easier to go outside the box with the style and length of episodes. That being said, I think animation might also be a viable option. However, I don't believe an anime is necessarily the right way to go. Animation and Anime need not be the same- something that is done in animation but not necessarily the style and method of anime might be closer to an interpretation I would enjoy. It would also allow for something that matches the art style and feeling that SA already has. Moving away from that and into the pretty set various stylistic choices of anime might make the show more jarring.