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Hm... Just a thought. Maybe reawakening involves reconnecting the nahel bond? Sounds like a bondsmiths job?

Szeth pinned Adolin to the roof the first time around. The 2nd time, he had punched him out far away to keep him from the fight. Before Adolin tried to get back in the fight.

Ok.. I do have a theory on Adolin. In the two fights with Szeth, Adolin has been pinned or pur away, as if Szeth did not want to hurt or kill him. Whereas in other attacks on kings, he slaughtered everyone. This makes me think that the diagram has a particular reference for him - which ensures that Szeth did not kill him on Taravangian's instructions. Thoughts?

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WoR had a word count of approx. 398,000. So, what's another 25,000 words - Just 2-3 weeks extra given that Brandon is averaging 2,000 words per day for SA3.

If previous radiants broke their oaths, then how does the stormfather exist? Shouldn't he be dead as well and only waking up to the memory in WoR/WoK, with a new highstorm spren linked to Dalinar. Also, how can the stormfather keep the vision from tanavast/honor if his mind was also affected by the recreance?

Well, another idea can be to just get rid of the "downvote"? Just have upvotes - you either get "likes" or you get an effective no comment. If we can say nothing positive, we won't say negative as well, that way?

Well, i wonder if we'll see more bondsmiths. “But as for the Bondsmiths, they had members only three, which number was not uncommon for them; nor did they seek to increase this by great bounds, for during the times of Madasa, only one of their order was in continual accompaniment of Urithiru and its thrones. Their spren was understood to be specific, and to persuade them to grow to the magnitude of the other orders was seen as seditious. —From Words of Radiance” - chapter 44

I agree that the upvote and downvote is like a facebook "like" or "dislike". Frankly, I am surprised that people care so much if they get a downvote. I downvoted 1 post, coz I disagreed with it, but to take it as personal is waay over the top. I wouldn't take it personally if any one of you downvoted me. The upvote and the downvotes aren't a reflection on the poster, but the actual post. Let's just say for example, you've won the Nobel peace prize, and then you got a downvote here - does it mean you are diminished as a person? I think not. I would agree to have it non-anonymous. I think most times people are giving upvotes and it's always great to recognise and meet people who appreciate me. VIce verca - If people don't like what I've posted, I might give some thought to what I've posted and reconsider.

@kaelok - opposite of my opinion on everyone I listed? I did read Ender's shadow which killed it for me. My memory's gone a bit hazy on the characters names - but as I recall Bean went all biblical on the girl? Kinda killed it for me - "Hi... were your acting like the following bible character?" is some kind of weird line from a 10-14 year old. I will get to the end of Lies... would you consider reading The Curse of Chalion ? It's my favourite fantasy book to date. Just builds up slowly and the payoff which comes towards the end is truly startling.

Well, the other thing I can see are two more bondsmiths joining dalinar. I think one of the quotes was that bondsmiths usually numbered 3, which was not uncommon for them even though others radiant were more prolific.

Welcome and have an upvote! Besides Brandon, what's your reading profile?

Edit: Just more explanation added on why some books I recommend more... I would recommend the following:- The curse of chalion and paladin of souls by Lois McMaster Bujold. Basically a 2 book series, but curse of chalion is a standalone masterpiece in itself. Great payoffs at the end of each book. Slow build up, but once you are hooked, each books starts building momentum like a freight train (slow 50 pages), but by the end, it's awesome. Curse of Chalion is my favourite book of all time. The old kingdom series (3 books) by Garth Nix - Sabriel was a brilliant book with a completely different magic system, focusing on death magic and necromany & bells (no zombies). Garth Nix is absolutely brilliant, and I highly recommend some of his other books as well (which are a sci fi or urban fantasy) - keys to the kingdom series (7 book), confusion of princes (homage to robert a heinlein's style), shade's children. Recommend the Discworld series by Terry Pratchett - again, he's a genius and he's already on your list. All the discworld series is great and each book is standalone, which is a marvel given 40 odd books. I thought Thud! and A Wee Free Men were modern masterpieces in humor mixed with insightful commentary into race, relationship matters, younger siblings, fear and everything else. Re-recommend Jonathan Stroud - The Barthemeus djinn is funny, is all I can say. Basically, a kid calls up a djinn in a world where djinns are quite common - except this djinn has a sense of humor. High quality stuff. The lockwood & co series (completely separate to the djinn series) had a good start, but book 2 dragged a bit. The Bekah Cooper series (3 books) by Tamora Pierce. The only Tamora Pierce stuff I would recommend. The pacing is slow with this one, but a more rounded view of a new police recruit with a touch of magic power in a historical kingdom. I don't know if you've read Robert A Heinlein - he's a treasure trove from the 50s-70s. Fast, easy, unpredictable & fun! Also recommend reading Armor by John Steakley. Just one book was written by the author in the 80s and it was great! A sci fi flick but more of a character driven story. Yet the characters were so mesmerizing in themselves. Rick Riordan - He writes some great books, but the narration is from a YA perspective. Think greek demi gods interactions meets Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure in the Percy Jackson and the Olympians series. Still good fun and I am still reading them 8-9 books in and can't hardly wait! 50-50 on these:- Eoin Colfer - OK- His Artemis Fowl series is absolutely fun! You'll love butler! Will get a movie soon as well. However, the rest of his books are formulaic. So, stay with Artemis Fowl series. Books are stand alone, so you can leave the series any time you want. I would say that the quality dropped a little from book 6 and onwards. Still a fun read. Brian Staveley - Book 1 was great, but book 2 was just a lot of killing for questionable results... So, on the fence with this series. Dan Simmons - The Hyperion Cantos series is the one I've read. It's a modern masterpiece. BUT, it's Complex. I loved it, but not sure if it's everyone's taste. I'd put it in my recommended list, but I know, not everyone can deal with the complexity until it all gets resolved in book 4. Also, some characters are weird and unlikable, until you get to book 4, and it all becomes clear. Until then, it's just a mind boggling series. So, if you choose to pick this one up, make sure you at least read until the end of book 2 to make your mind about if you like it or not. On the negatives from your list:- Avoid Orson Scott Card except for Ender's game. The rest just go downhill into politics, religion, philosphy & power games, and his latest stuff is even worse. Jim Butcher - don't like how he describes females - a lot of repetitive scenes of "oh.. I know this will be trouble, but I have to help the damsel in distress or just because I have an ego". Not bad, but probably worth putting on the bottom of the list. Frank Herbert - Dune series. Frankly overrated in my view. Brilliantly written, and you keep waiting for the point to hit you; for some grand revelation - but it never comes even after 10 odd books, by which time more than 10,000 years have passed in the series. Scott Lynch - I am reading lies of locke lamora at the moment, and frankly, the writing style is not as engaging, as it can be. John Scalzi - Overrated! Once the plot opens up - it's just a formula driven conclusion you can see a mile away. Also, avoid John Pierce - the red rising series... just a communist propoganda book.

I think Shallan had quite a few funny lines.... + Balat - Love is like a music symphony... Shallan - So, if you finish early, your audience is disappointed? + Vathah - "Be careful, girl. You wouldn't want to accidentally insult a man". Shallan - "The last thing I'd want to do is accidentally insult you, Vathah. To think that I couldn't manage it on purpose if I wanted"... There were a few more Vathah/Shallan conversations that were quite witty. + Wit conversing with the person who was transporting Taln (about the objective frame of reference).

Awesome.. can't hardly wait. Also, has anyone noted that in the scene before the last duel for shardplate, Adolin remembers he doesn't have the his mother's chain she had given him (chapter 56). Is it some type of special shard/fabriel given the whole shshsh scenario?

Thanks! Interestingly, I've also thought about the conversion - I just think that the stormlight archive would be a great fit for a tv series, like the GoT. (except the books don't have anything even close to anything racy).

Hi guys and girls! I am a fellow fantasy reader! Used to read a lot of fantasy books, but time constraints (by way of having a family) means I listen to audiobooks rather than read them. Although for some favourite ones, I'll get a kindle/kobo version to re-read phrases! Loved Brandon Sanderson's work so far! Have read(or listened):- Mistborn triology except the middle book. Long story, I loved book 1, but the phrase "ashes are falling" got quite annoying, so I just skipped to book 3. Having read that one, I could never get into book 2, even though I purchased it! Alloy of Law The two legion short stories. Emperor's Soul Way of Kings Words of Radiance Rithamist Steelheart Firefight Eye of the World (Robert Jordan) To be read (or listened): Elantris Warbreaker I haven't read Elantris / Warbreaker, simply because of the mixed reviews I had read about them. I liked eye of the world, but just got bored with the idea of reading another 10 odd books about 3 juvies (it became 14.. gawd!). Hence, no further take up there. Do love the stormlight archive heaps! And that is why I am here! Absolutely awesome! The WoK dragged in patches and I didn't rewind to hear passages if I ended up missing them. But it came together brilliantly towards the end (yeah.. the avalanche)! But WoR was absolutely sensational! Absolutely rivetting, and I've been on 4th / 5th re-read of WoR at the moment!! I am surrounded by people who don't read fantasy books or at least not anymore, having "grown up". So, I am here to talk about all these books! Ooh Yeah!