The One Who Reads

Done, on a side note does the site have a suggestion box? Because this seems a pretty common problem and an undo feature could be useful.

Ding we have a winner, I really am bad at this.

Of course meta-jokes about rep fishing are always popular, bonus points if you make the meta-joke self referencing. But lets not go back to the pie charts era of this thread. Stormlight

Yay. "barren folio filled with empty wisdom"

The shards abandoned by the radiants at the Recreance?

Elantris Mistborn/Stormlight Archives/Reckoners

I don't think I will be able to check up with the site often enough to run one of theese reliably, so anyone else want to take it? Remember a post is for life a topic not just for christmas.

Is it Kiin's axe?

Made my day. I'm re-reading mistborn at the moment (actually half the books I read seem to be mistborn or WoT) and I just can't help smiling at the blantant "in-your-face" foreshadowing at certain parts in the book, this is one of the things I am really kicking myself on not spotting first time round. I had the thought "Could he [not naming the character in question for spoilers] be anymore obvious and... well that image popped into my head

Now returning to the books as Orlion suggested... Mistborn spoilers

I think previous pie charts were missing a few valid catagories

Waterbears are so cute, things like this are one of the reasons I love this site. Stormlight spoiler

Yes, this is what I meant by an enhanced memory (somehow I forgot to define that in my rambling). Also having pristine copies as well as a 'head' copy is pretty much all the advantages of normal f-Copper (which I personly think is one of the most useful single powers) without the downside of memory loss.

So as far as I understand it there are two forms of compounding: using allomancy to power feruchemy as seen with Miles Hundredlives in AoL and TLR in The Final Empire and somehow using feruchemy to enhance allomancy. Brandon has confirmed copper compounding produces some effect: WOB and link spoiler'ed for neatness It is easy to see how a-Copper could be enhanced for example producing a bigger copper cloud or producing a 'stronger' cloud and therefore making it harder to Seek inside the cloud and/or influence the Smoker's emotions for more powerful allomancers (such as Lerasium mistborn, Compounders or Hemalurgic freaks err Hemalurgicly enhanced individuals). What is harder to imagine is how f-Copper is enhanced, I have seen different theories proposed (including a not-so-serious idea that it turns f-Copper into a holodeck) but most of the proposed theories alter the way f-Copper operates. The Feruchemical Compounding we have seen so far (health and youth) produces a different effect at first glance to the base process, but on closer inspection is just the same process made 'end-positive' rather than 'end-neutral' to steal Brandon's terms. Feruchemical Compounding is simply th enhancement of a pre-existing feruchemical store. In the other cases this enhancement comes in the form of a greater amount of attribute, now rather than proposing f-copper compounding generates more of an atribute in the form of new memories (which would be a bit trippy) I think it would somehow enhance the memories in the burned coppermind. So what does an enhanced memory do that a normal memory does not? The first answer is nothing, the effect Brandon is refering to would simply be be enhanced a-Copper. I don't like this answer for two reasons: 1) The WOB above frames the question 'from a feruchemical point of view' so Brandon probably would have just said it was useless or RAFO'ed it if this was the case. 2) It is boring and a bit cheap to have f-Compounding only work for certain metals. So I champion the idea that an 'enhanced' memory would be one you could store and still recall as a normal memory. By using compounding you with draw more of the attribute than you stored, for most metals this gives you an explosion of power of which you normally use part of and store the rest. In f-Copper Compounding the part you 'use' is the memory you withdraw from the coppermind and the excess memory is stored back into a coppermind. The practical upshot is that you have both the perfectly stored and preserved copy in the coppermind (which you use as a conventional feruchemist would) and a working copy in your head (which you use as a normal person would). Edit: I realise that between thinking this and writing this I have lost a crucial piece of my theory, thanks to LabRat below for pointing this out . While compounding would (if I am correct) allow you to keep multiple memories I am not suggesting this is its sole purpose. LabRat explained it pretty I will just quote him here: In essence what I am saying is that Double Copper would create memories which are more resistant to degradation and this would also allow you to split memories without the problems a normal archivist would face. So onto that pesky evidence: Splitting a memory is possible for a 'sufficiently practised' Archivist acording to Brandon. Now Brandon implies this isn't something an archivist would want to do. But I think that while a regular Archivist Ferring would lack the raw power to form two full strength memories, a copper compounder would be able to split his memory without enchancing degradation in the coppermind or losing memory clarity in his head. The Lord Ruler is the only confirmed copper compounder we have seen, we are told he has a perfect memory. Brandon states in the annotations this is foreshadowing of his feruchemical abilities so it is not just an in world urban myth, exaggeration or the result of lots of life experience (like his ability to detect lies). He really is using f-copper to store memories. Now at first when I re-read that line about his perfect memory I thought "huh Brandon was foreshadowing he was feruchemist here" but looking back again I notice that is not quite right. When storing memories you lose all the information you stored, when Sazed was narrating and storing his experiences in WoA he describes it as follows: "It was an interesting experience. As soon as he [sazed] spoke he felt the thoughts sucked from his mind, leaving behind a blank hollowness. He had difficulty remembering the specifics of what he had just been saying”. Bold mine. I find it difficult to imagine TLR ruler going around asking everyone their name twice so he could keep a copy in his Coppermind and head, in fact this probably would have created a very different reputation for memory and possibly some awkward situations! TLR: And which of my subjects do we have here? Mr Nobleman: My name is Telvidin Pimplechook, my Lord *TLR notes the amusing similarity between name and face and creates a coppermind memory* TLR: And which of my subjects do we have here? Confused Nobleman: Errrr… My name is Telvidin Pimplechook, my Lord TLR: Ah yes of course, the one with the amusing similarity between name and face. Nervous Nobleman: As you say my Lord, a most amusing jest my Lord. TLR: That was not a joke, I never joke. Spike him for the tin he is burning. If however my wild speculation is correct then he would have been able to meet Mr Nobleman shake his hand (or glare disapprovingly) hear his name and whatever other important information he wanted to keep. Then store the information into a coppermind and burn that coppermind creating an enhanced memory allowing him to both store into a second coppermind and keep a copy in his head. This would give him in effect two memories a normal memory constantly ‘on tap’ and fallible and a reliable back up he can use to check when he is uncertain. There are of cource problems with this theory Memories are distict unlike the other fairly amorphous attributes, in my 'system' (very hesitant to use that term on a site dedicated to Sanderson) the compounder would apparantly have to burn to correct section of a metalmind or the whole rusting thing to guarantee compounding the right memory. If you have read through this wall of text congratulations! Don't worry soon a new Sanderson book will come out and you can stop reading rambling theories like mine on 17th Shard.

Knights awkward Credit to the people who came up with these and other oaths in this thread: http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/29462-the-knights-awkward/ I figured bad luck brian need something going for him (although he does live on a world without stormlight...) Stormlight Archive spoilers

Yes

Trying to make sense of the references from Kairos, feeling confident on the hammer but nothing else.

After the 'Brandon Avalanche' of all Sanderson's books Mistborn spoiler TLR has a revalation How I explain Roshar to people who have never read SA

Ok my turn then, let's try to make it a bit harder than last time. "Conveyer of two caged and glowing souls"

So it's someone from sel... Raoden when incapable of healing himself due injuries to his hands? Edit: you said not much screen time so my second guess is his seon when broken due to the shaod his aon is healing in AonDor. Editing the edit due to its terrible grammer: You said not much screen time so my second guess is Raoden's seon, Ien, when broken in Elantris due to the effect the shaod had on him. His aon results in healing in AonDor.

First of all well done to the people of this forum for probably the most polite conversation about religion I have seen online (and more pleasant than some I have had the misfourtune to hear in real life). I do have one point to make however about the poll, Buddhism unlike many other religions is not exclusive and does not deal directly with the notion of God(s) and/or Goddess(es). I for example fall into both the Athiest and Buddhist catagories but I have know many Christians who after hearing the five precepts have begun identifying as Buddhist. I don't want people to think I am complaining about the poll however, it is a pleasant suprise to see Buddhism get its own option. Well I don't think we make up a large portion of his reader base, but Brandon's very self-reflective characters like Elend, Hrathren, Hoid and curiously Dalinar and Szeth resonate very strongly with a Buddhist. I don't suggest I agree with their choices, as all of them subscibe to the belief that killing can be justified. But in Buddhism 'breaking' the precepts isn't a 'sin' to be judged, the solution we believe in is not to ask for forgiveness for causing harm but to think on how to prevent further harm occuring. (sorry I know that sounds like I think non-buddhists would simply pray and keep commiting harm, it is not what I mean or think) These characters all care very deeply about something they did, thinking on that event or deciscion changes them on a vey deep level. I think a lot of Buddhists would enjoy Brandon's work if the they were not predjudiced against the fantasy genre as 'glorifying violence'.

Mistborn Reckoners Emperor's soul

I think this is about following your own advice / not being a hypocrite (not looking for hints if I am right by the way). So I am going to go for Dalinar, he spend a lot of time preaching cooperation amongst the highprinces and submitting to the kings authority but ignoring his own power grabbing tendencies. Also stormlight healing?

Well that was seen through quickly, never have been good at writing riddles.

Yay, know I just need to think up my own... 'Abandoned for seeing clearly, by those with saw him seeing clearly'