Jondesu

On 7/11/2021 at 6:59 PM, Malim said:

My headcanon is that it's the point where the Spiritual Realm touches the Cognitive.  In Mistborn, it seems to be the point that souls are drawn towards, and in Shadesmar it draws light and shadows towards it.

No real evidence for this, but it's my crackpot theory.

Souls are drawn toward the Beyond, not the Spiritual Realm, which are different things and changes up that whole theory.

On 7/16/2021 at 1:20 PM, Honorless said:

I think it's a representation of the Spiritual Realm as well, mostly because of Khriss' analogy for explaining the Three Realms: the Spiritual Realm as the source of the light, the Cognitive Realm as the beam of light and the Physical Realm where the light pools. Not the exact words.

I do like that theory.

Note that Patji the Island is not the same as Patji the Avatar, one was probably named for the other and we’re not 100% sure which. We don’t even know exactly when Patji was created as an Avatar, except that we know Bavadin/Autonomy was involved in some way in FotS by the time of the story.

6 minutes ago, mathiau said:

Wait, Wayne hates Steris?

With a passion. Wish I could meme it. He’s slowly turned it into just a dislike instead of a burning hatred though.

3 hours ago, AllHailStick said:

Unfortunately I am not nearly so artistic, just another admirer of sticks. I didn't realize the signature got cut off, but source is below.
The Stick of Resolve, Artwork by Ari Ibarra https://ariirf.com/

Ari Ibarra is one of the best Cosmere (and other universe) artists I’ve run across! I follow them on one of those art websites as well as Instagram.

Edit: ArtStation is where I follow them: https://www.artstation.com/ariirf

That was a fun game! I told you guys I wasn’t evil (Amethyst Scorpion here)!

Fun fact, I’ve played a single Anonymous Game previously. In it, I was also Amethyst Scorpion. That was a fun twist of RNG.

Also, @Steeldancer, I did request the Stormform gem. I wasn’t gonna use it, but do I get to keep it? Edit: nm, saw the comment on that.

13 hours ago, ElMonoEstupendo said:

Mind, that wouldn't constitute a genocide, but I doubt Notum wanted to be semantically pedantic at that point.

When is Notum (or any Honorspren) not semantically pedantic? 

Eye color genetics is definitely weirder on Roshar than here, but I’m not certain it would prevent someone from being born with different color light eyes to two lighteyed parents, for instance. Apparently lighteyes and darkeyes genetics don’t often mix to produce full lighteyes, though, I did find that much: 

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Isilel

Or, and another thing—what happens if a lighteyed child is born to darkeyes or even slaves? Which should happen often enough, given that male nobles seem rather promiscuous. Anyway, are such people automatically of tenth dahn?

Brandon Sanderson

The situation is very much taken into account in these sorts of cases. Normally—if there is such a thing as normal with this—one question that's going to come up is are they heterochromatic. Because you can end up with one eye of each color, both eyes light, or both eyes dark. That's going to influence it a lot, what happens here. Do you have any heirs? Was your child born lighteyed? This sort of thing is treated the same way that a lot of societies treated illegitimate children. The question of, do I need this person as an heir? Are they born darkeyed? Can I shuffle them off somewhere? Set them up, declare them to be this certain rank. Are you high enough rank to do that? Are you tenth dahn yourself? What happens with all of these things? There's no single answer to that. The most common thing that's probably going to happen is that they are born heterochromatic. Then you're in this weird place where you're probably declared to be tenth dahn, but you may have way more power and authority than that if one parent is of a very high dahn, just as a bastard child in a royal line would be treated in our world.

https://wob.coppermind.net/events/148/#e2782 (Last section)

We’ve also been told eye color is related to the orders originally, though not that connected today, and for instance, Kaladin gets blue eyes because he’s a Windrunner, while other Orders get different colors it seems. So I would guess there’s some genetic weirdness to it.

1 hour ago, BurntRose said:

A random thought for something to happen near the end of book 5 in the back half - Kaladin doesnt become honour, but instead becomes a representative of Harmony. 

Literally based only on this from RoW. 

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Ch 29 - A cage without bars 'I have begun searching for a pathway out of this conundrum by searching for the ideal person to act on my behalf. Someone who embodies both Preservation and Ruin. A...sword, you might say, who can both protect and kill.' 

His mission for at least part of the later books then becomes to protect the cosmere by figuring out what is going on with the shards and helping to fix it. 

 

That’s almost certainly referring to (Mistborn Era 2 spoilers):

Available now on Audible:

https://www.audible.com/pd/Lux-Audiobook/B0979GG9T2

I can’t get into Alcatraz myself, but I may have him try it. I got him a copy of The Rithmatist, but I also got Little House In The Big Woods and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory at the same time (which is the one he chose to start with) so he’s all over the place.

9 hours ago, apepi said:

But it is possible that we might see the Ghostbloods try to pull it off.

I think it likely that we already have seen them at least try.

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“It was an old Alethi man in robes. He’d been killed with some kind of knife wound to the chest”

This was the Feruchemist (reportedly) with a pet chicken (Aviar), so something may have been stolen from him with Hemalurgy.

5 hours ago, LewsTherinTelescope said:

I feel like there's not really evidence for that. Connection is a force more than a proper "thing" (that's not the right phrasing but not sure how exactly to put it). That's like saying anti-matter implies anti-gravity or an anti-strong force or something. 

You’re telling me anti-gravity isn’t a thing? Say it ain’t so!

I think the Oathstone has been confirmed not to be magical. Lemme see if I can find it. Here:

https://wob.coppermind.net/events/128/#e5726
 

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If i was holding Szeth's Oathstone would he understand my commands?

Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased)

Good question, I don't believe anyone has asked it before. No, an Oathstone doesn't have any magical properties whatsoever.

The question wasn’t the same but I think the answer is conclusive.

Thanks, everyone. I forgot how violent it was, honestly. I do think I’ll hold off for now, but maybe try the others. I’ve got a long list of other books for him to read, so there’s no hurry.

12 hours ago, Frustration said:

Brandon has alluded to it being similar to the Reod, and possibly the seon's there.

So their souls are trying to update but BAM is missing

Constantly stuck on Windows updating screen? Sounds about right. 

That was a fun game, and Alv, it was amazing to watch you work even though I didn’t know it was you until now. Yes, despite being in the dead doc (which I didn’t fully read) I didn’t know who Link was. I did know it wasn’t Steel, so I figured it had to be Alvron that last turn, but still, the mystery!

Thank you, @Biplet and @StrikerEZ!

My son just finished The Hobbit, and I’d love to get him into Sanderson but I worry I’m jumping the gun since he’s only 9, even though he’s an advanced reader. I’ve read The Reckoners but it’s been a while, can ya’ll remind me how age appropriate (or not) it would be for someone his age?

1 hour ago, Bejardin1250 said:

I’m pretty sure that Invested Metalminds glow to Shards so it’s pretty hard to hear that TOdium would not have noticed it

We only know this to be the case on Scadrial where all metal glows. We don’t know that they would glow on Roshar.

I like the theory! I’m not going to pick it apart, but I think overall it has a lot of potential, even if not every detail is right!

8 minutes ago, mathiau said:

Do we have confirmation Odium's tone only became a true tone after BAM was bound?

I don’t believe we have solid confirmation. It’s heavily implied by The Sibling, but they could be wrong.

Edit: I like the Roshar is a Gemstone theory, but parts of this have been picked apart, mostly for good reason. I could buy the planet’s core being a gemstone and that being very significant without the other things you listed being true (BAM is almost certainly not imprisoned there, for instance, a regular albeit large perfect gemstone would be sufficient and in fact better if in fact Roshar’s gemheart isn’t a perfect gemstone as you suspect). I also agree that isn’t the reason for the Investiture from the high storms, we have confirmation that that comes from a perpendicularity and is from the Spiritual Realm, IIRC.

12 minutes ago, Bejardin1250 said:

You’ve still got maybe 1,000 to 2,000 3rd ideals at the very least judging by how quickly there were so many Windrunners

And only 60 Shards

Yes, sorry, two separate points. On that part, I agree with @RedBlue as well, someone’s been hoarding them, possibly since immediately after the Recreance. Maybe someone was able to bring a number into Shadesmar to make them no longer accessible as Blades. Maybe Nale and/or the Shin and/or others have a huge stash somewhere (like you said it’d be a thousand or more, easily). Maybe something else explains it. That part is still very mysterious.

13 minutes ago, AquaRegia said:

CONSIDERABLE speculation.

I freely admit I'm still not clear on how the "deadeye in Shadesmar vs Blade in Physical" idea is supposed to work.  Isn't it one or the other, but not both?  In other words, an unbonded Shardblade, hidden somewhere in the Physical Realm, cannot ALSO be a deadeye wandering Shadesmar.  Am I confused?

7 minutes ago, Bejardin1250 said:

That is correct

But when the bond was broken all Blades could not be dismissed without gemstones so how would there be so many deadeyes? 

But it seems from Shallan that if you break an Oath while the blade is dismissed it stays dismissed which may explain the vast majority of all the Blades

But we are still missing 100 or so at the very best

I hadn’t clued into that myself, but I’m guessing RedBlue gave the answer above:

28 minutes ago, RedBlue said:

Spren whose Radiants had not yet reached the Third Ideal are presumably deadeyes who don’t have a corresponding Shardblade form in the Physical Realm.

That makes sense to me. Before the binding of BAM, there were no deadeyes, after, all spren became deadeyes when their Knights broke their Oaths, regardless of level. That means a lot of Knights who were level 1-2 would have created deadeyes with no Shardblade to be claimed by anyone. Maybe higher levels in some orders, we’re not positive they all get them at level 3.

This is impressive. Scholarly. I don’t have a lot to add, except on the last bit about the eyes. I always figured replacing the eyes was because they burned out, but Szeth didn’t actually kill him with the Honorblade… maybe it’s tradition for kings/highprinces, maybe he left specific instructions? Either way I doubt it was a random unimportant detail. I forget which book the Soulcaster quote you mentioned came from, but it’s intriguing. May just be Soulcaster weirdness (the people who use them change and become very odd) and I’m guessing they don’t get changed in the Soulcasting process, but still odd.

On 7/13/2021 at 2:32 AM, apepi said:

It might be because infused things are harder to mess with magic, while none infused things aren't. Syl being very invested while some random non-high spren is easier to infuse with magic.

It’s Syl in both quotes (well, not just Syl in the first, but she’s one of the spren he lashes).

5 hours ago, Frustration said:

I don't think it's the spren themselves so much as their Shardblade forms.

In the CR they can just attach it to their bodies, Shallan just attached it to Pattern

But the Shards themselves are too invested to lash

That makes more sense, but she’s flying next to him when he says it, not in Blade/Spear form. It was implied though, I suppose.

3 hours ago, Valigus said:

1. Well I think the reason there isn’t anti void light is because normally that is just devotionlight but there isn’t enough of devotions investiture on roshar to make anything happen- you need to take voidlight then infuse it with devotions intent/rhythm 

2. Also I’m actually not talking about the intent I’m saying we know the tone of another shard

Anti-Voidlight is not Devotionlight. It is an anti-light, not a different Shard’s Light. It’s an important distinction made very clear in the books.

Thanks, that finally makes sense!