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Mid-Range Game 10: Divided Loyalties
phattemer replied to little wilson's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I guess I'll start things off with a vote for Shallan. Although things didn't go well last time I did this, this game should be different. (hi wilson) I'd mostly just want to hear from her. Edit: fixed color- 937 replies
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Mid-Range Game 10: Divided Loyalties
phattemer replied to little wilson's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I'll vote for Hellscythe, because I don't really think we should lynch a Runner if we can not, and because there wasn't any explanation for that vote.- 937 replies
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Long Game 15: ...The Shards Themselves...
phattemer replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
It would be because the traitor targeted me, your resident Voidbringer. I don't know why, but I think that's the only solution. I'll also put my vote on Elkanah, because my theory was right about Burnt and as such it is highly probable Elkanah is the Biochromancer. I already told Clanky and Biggoron this, but I think it's possible that the traitor Biochromancer targeted Orlok to take out PMs, but since it was a passive ability nothing happened.- 1686 replies
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^Thanks, Wyrm. Action 1: Spend some Wealth to recruit in Luthadel Why: I want to reassure my House and also myself.
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Long Game 15: ...The Shards Themselves...
phattemer replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
You probably role blocked the Mistborn, since nobody else was. No point in having a Mistborn vote, since they know what they should do.- 1686 replies
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It's not Legion or Skin Deep, is it?
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Long Game 15: ...The Shards Themselves...
phattemer replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Yes, she was chosen for a reason. Wilson found someone to shift the lynch onto. And I'll repeat: having my sister in this game does not grant me greater accessibility, and personally, I don't think that should even come into it. The anon game is looking better and better... More to the point, I assumed there would be at most 6 Eliminators because I've never seen a bigger team than that. Also, with the roles they had I don't think they need another person.- 1686 replies
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Long Game 15: ...The Shards Themselves...
phattemer replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I think it's excellent! We now have only the Biochromancer to get, and although they will probably RB the Mistborn, we can get them tomorrow. Does anyone not think it's Elkanah?- 1686 replies
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Long Game 15: ...The Shards Themselves...
phattemer replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
That attack wasn't necessarily me, you know. But it was after I had claimed Hemalurgist to draw fire away from actual ones. Also the Eliminators probably wouldn't have 2 Voidbringers. Seeing as we now know who we're lymching, we can dyer mine who is left after we find out what burnt is. Also, do I have anyone's roles wrong?- 1686 replies
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Long Game 15: ...The Shards Themselves...
phattemer replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Once we are down to one eliminator we have won the game. If we have 2 Elantrians we have essentially won now as long as we don't lynch them. (Tall order, eh?) So of Lopen, Elkanah, Elbereth, and Biggoron, one is the Biochromancer, one is Uninvested/Hemalurgist, one is Uninvested/Heamlurgist/Elantrian, and one is Mistborn. Personally, I am nearly sure Lopen is telling the truth, so that leaves Elk, Elb, and Big for Mistborn, Hema/El/Unin, and Biochromancer. Assuming that Elbereth is the mistborn(no counters), that leaves Elkanah and Biggoron with biochromancer and uninv/Hema/Elantrian. Now we need to look at motives. Let us assume for the moment that Biggoron is the traitor Biochromancer. Why would a Biochromancer claim Elantrian? Maybe they want to seem invulnerable. This would fit with his earlier claim of Voidbringer. However, this would be unwise with a Mistborn still alive. Now let us assume that Elkanah is the traitor Biochromancer. From this, there would be no more Hemalurgists and the HI would be evil. So why would a Biochromancer claim Hemalurgist? The answer appears obvious: they want to not need to pretend to be a powered role. Why not Uninvested? Because this way they also make it appear that the HI is still loyal. So this is how I think the roles are, right now(no fancy colors sorry) Phattemer- Loyal Voidbringer Lopen- Loyal Uninvested Orlok- Loyal Surgebinder Biggoron- Loyal Elantrian Clanky- Loyal Elantrian Elbereth- Loyal Mistborn Queensteph- Loyal Feruchemist Hellscythe- Traitor HI Elkanah- Traitor Biochromancer Burnt Spaghetti- Traitor Kandra Also, a reminder that the traitors need only equal us (minus the HI) to win, no matter how many Voidbringers, Elantrians, and Feruchemists we have. At this point, we should win this night if Burnt is a traitor, since we can drop the Mistborn kill on Elkanah. (Aaaand Biochromancer can role block. So the next day, actually.) If she's not, Lopen has it analyzed. Live long and prosper!- 1686 replies
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Long Game 15: ...The Shards Themselves...
phattemer replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Clanky, Biggoron, if Lopen isn't right this would be the time to say so. Lopen, what if Burnt is a traitor?- 1686 replies
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Long Game 15: ...The Shards Themselves...
phattemer replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Or because you're evil now and you want to get someone else lynched. Just sayin'.- 1686 replies
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Long Game 15: ...The Shards Themselves...
phattemer replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Completely unbiased, but I don't think there are any more traitor Voidbringera or Elantrians. They had a bulletproof Wilson, for Harmony's sake.- 1686 replies
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Long Game 15: ...The Shards Themselves...
phattemer replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Ok, so the only live ones are Lopen, Steph, and Elkanah. And Orlok. We'll know more postmortem, but we have a long day now so let's use it. That should give everyone a chance to get on and discuss. Oh and Lopen: in re to the reveal with the biochromancer: once people reveal, we'll know who they are, at the very least between 2 people assuming they will lie.- 1686 replies
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Long Game 15: ...The Shards Themselves...
phattemer replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Who have you scanned so far, and have you found any traitors, even those already dead now? I'll just leave my vote where it is, then.- 1686 replies
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Long Game 15: ...The Shards Themselves...
phattemer replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
In regards to them targeting a more important role than I: I, along with the Elantrian(s), am the most important role. We're the only people they have to gain control of the lynch to kill. We haven't heard from Burnt Spaghetti in a while, and at this point we can't afford to have inactives. Confusing ookla names are confusing. We have, but they didn't say much. Role, Ookla the Overdone? So if the Kandra doesn't reveal themselves by the end of the day, they're either inactive or evil and either way we get more info from their death. Even if they do I agree that they still need to die at this point. Does anyone who is not the HI(evil) know who they are? Ooh, another test. If the HI does not reveal them, they must have turned.- 1686 replies
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Long Game 15: ...The Shards Themselves...
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(hellscythe 'd me) Ok, so 10 people left: 1. Gaius Tekiel (Orlok) 2. Obsidibus Caesis Dormiam (phattemer) 3. Volke (TheMightyLopen) 4. Doctor McClay (Clanky) 5. Elby (Elbereth) 6. HELLSCYTHE (DeathClutch19) - Uninvested - HI 7. Steph (QueenSteph) 8. The High Priest of Elkanah (Elkanah) 9. Ember Ghetti (Burnt Spaghetti) 10. Biggoron (Biggoron) Role Remaining of the 10: At least 1 Voidbringer, the HI, at least 1 Surgebinder, at least 1 Elantrian, at least 1 Mistborn, at least 1 Kandra, at least 1 Feruchemist, at least 1 Biochromancer, maybe a few uninvested. My best guess: 1 Surgebinder: only 1 message 1-2 Elantrians: Even with only 12(Not the HI) possible targets, a protect isn't likely to hit the same as the Eliminators. 1 Mistborn: Someone killed Cor 1 Kandra: Unless there is some elaborate plot I don't know about. 1 Feruchemist: Queensteph is a Feruchemist. 1 Biochromancer: Arraenae was RBed a few nights ago and none have died since. 1-2 Uninvested: To fill in the gaps. 1 HI: duh 1 Voidbringer: That's me, and I don't think there would be 4 Voidbringers. My best guess at which role is whose: Known: phattemer- Voidbringer Hellscythe- HI Queensteph- Feruchemist Guess: Biggoron- Elantrian? Self-target seems likely. Remaining: Orlok Lopen Clanky Elbereth Elkanah Burnt Spaghetti To fill the roles: Elantrian, Surgebinder, Mistborn, Kandra, Biochromancer, and Uninvested. At this point I would ask that people reveal their roles, since if the Eliminators do have a kandra they probably know most already, and if the Traitors know something there is no reason for the Loyalists not to. I have set an example with my own reveal, and I hope that other will follow suit. Also, my guess at the remaining roles on the Traitor team: They've lost a Voidbringer, Forger, Hemalurgist, and Uninvested, so I think they have a Biochromancer and a Kandra left. Plus the HI, since we've now had 4 Hemalurgists dead and I highly doubt that there were more than that, considering the possibility for Forging more. Also, Hellscythe, assuming I'm right you now have access to the doc and would know who the kandra is. Since I am invulnerable to night kills, if anyone doesn't feel comfortable sharing in thread you can PM me your role this night. Oh, and if the Mistborn would like to confirm me as Voidbringer by attacking me I am fine with that too. Although I suppose it could just mean I have Biochromancer who knows who the Mistborn is. Actually I will probably be role blocked then killed tonight, so please don't actually. Also a point about win conditions: The Traitors, minus the HI, only need to equal or outnumber the loyal crew members. 7 loyal- 2 evil- 1 evil HI Any two of 1. mislynch 2. mismistborn 3. eliminator kill 5 loyal- 2 evil- 1 evil HI At this point the evil people can easily control the lynch, because while the HI can't be lynched he can still vote. Nearly every loyal person would have to be on and agree to survive this. Unless Queensteph is still alive, so they will probably be a target. If all 3 happen, we are dead as town. If 2 loyal 1 evil die from the three possible kills in this cycle: 5 loyal- 1 evil- 1 evil HI This should be fine. The Traitors would need to get the Loyalists down to 1 person to equal them. We should be able to find the last evil person in the meantime. If the mistborn gets it right and we lynch right, we win. At the danger of being lynched for not providing anything new(see I made a reference to day 1 hahahaha...): Mistborn: I would say don't target anyone. If you greatly suspect someone try first going after them for the lynch and seeing what their response is. Elantrian: Since I will probably be double-tapped (RB and kill) tonight, I would appreciate some protection. If there are two (and we can coordinate something) maybe target Queensteph since they will be very useful as vote-manipulation with only a few people left. Voidbringer: That's me! Surgebinder: Post something to prove it's you! I suggest a code. Feruchemist: Hi Queensteph. Just be careful you don't kill someone who is loyal. Kandra: If you're loyal (I hope not, if so I will feel dumb.) just keep scanning for alignment. Biochromancer: If you're loyal, don't RB anyone. So if someone gets RBed, we will know that the Biochromancer is evil. If someone gets killed by the Mistborn, we will know that the Mistborn is evil. So if you are a loyal Mistborn, please don't kill anyone tonight unless you've revealed already.- 1686 replies
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phattemer replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
So, person who knows who the kandra is, feel like revealing them so we can at least discuss lynching them? I really it would help. Totally not evil guy trying to get the seeker killed... yup, totally not.- 1686 replies
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phattemer replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Seeing as I don't think the Kandra is trustworthy, I won't vote for who they should scan. Scan yourself, Kandra. We can't depend on their results because we don't know whether they are village.- 1686 replies
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phattemer replied to little wilson's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I will be Seixa, a Skybreaker Squire. *whistles unconcernedly* Nothing to see here, move along.- 937 replies
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phattemer replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Sooooo... Tomorrow's lynch is the HI? Right?- 1686 replies
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phattemer replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Love the write-up, Wyrm. All of them, really, but this one was especially awesome. I'll start off with a vote for Lopen. I think he is trying to distance himself from the Kandra and was from Araris, so as to wind up as the trusted eliminator at the end. (Example: Shallan goes after hero in mr9, survives, and wins)- 1686 replies
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phattemer replied to Wyrmhero's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Queensteph's post is making me even more sure that both she and the Kandra are evil. Of course a traitor would ask to be scanned when they know that the Kandra won't actually scan them. Another point I don't think people have realized: if the Kandra is evil, the longer they stay alive the more roles the traitors get. There's no reason for an evil!Kandra to scan for alignment. I'll put up a much more analytical post later, with all my suspicions.- 1686 replies
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