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Oathbringer

Happy to see he is worried about focusing on Cosmere more. Love the side stuff and understand why he likes to do it but I can get that kind of thing anywhere. What I can't get is hardcore Cosmere lore ... Don't want to be 10 years older before we get into the next serious Cosmere series.

I would prefer if future books just left Brade alone and refrain from giving her a redemption arch or exploring her phsyc too much. Some people are just ruined and you don't always know exactly why ... That's what Brade is to me and I'm not interested in going deeper with her.

I like the alien crew better than the original crew. 

Startsight was superior in every way except it had a less satisfying ending ... definitely built upon everything Skyward established by a lot though and was very well paced IMO.

4 hours ago, Bliev said:

I like the idea of AI becoming “alive” via the Delvers or the figments; both could make sense. the fear of AI “copying itself” is very real. But why? The Superiority seems to care more about its cytonic nature but mbot’s human pilot? There is a reason there was a strong fail safe. 

What I mean by my comment is that figments could literally be ancient AI. Sort of the end result of AI evolution. 

Spensa - Camila Mendes https://www.imdb.com/name/nm6161516/?ref_=nmls_hd

Jorgen - Will Poulter https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2401020/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1

Cobb - JK Simmons https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0799777/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1

I thought that figments were what AI turned into

Just finished the book. Really enjoyed it but ugh ... I do feel like there was very little resolution on almost all fronts at the end it was almost all incomplete book

Now too wait at least 2 years for the next one ... 

Just email Sanderson and tell him you are poor...I bet he sends you a paperback. 

1 hour ago, Xero stormz said:

I may have missed a few things so if I'm completely off I apologise. What if the reason the parshendi and parshmen get so offended by the bodies of their dead being defiled is because even after the body is "dead" they can be transformed into the voidbringer by the storm? It would make sense considering how long the war has been raging and if they can be brought "back" to the right after death then they're almost impossible to defeat. 

Not entirely inconsistent with the other theory that claims Odium ****ed up the afterlife in Roshar system and blocks souls from passing to the Beyond.

10 hours ago, The One Who Connects said:

Ok, so I did read it wrong the first time. I agree with this now that I understand it correctly. Sorry for the misunderstanding

edit: @Calderis, I found the post where it was confirmed to be separate Spren.

 

Yea, I agree this theory (my theory) is almost certainly not correct.

So the higher post is interesting...is it a pure theory or supported in text that the storm father was born out of the recreance through the merging of murdered spren? It does make sense in that the spren of honor then existing and sentient would refer to themselves as Honor's spren/shadow...

The other note is just that if they're all bonded to the Stormfather why limit it to 3? Why not 1 or infinite? The shardblade part makes some sense if it was 1 but...if he doesn't have to be around all the time and form a weapon or protect the human then I'm not sure why there is a limit...unless they're not all bonded to the Stormfather (and if they are 3 different "god spren" then it still makes sense to have no sword just b/c they're so "important" and above that sort of usage).

I'll also point out that the Stormfather is kind of a ****.  He sent the storm to kill everyone and tried to stop Syl from bonding with Kaladin at the moment Kaladin was going to die. He only bonded with Dalinar reluctantly after (presumably) he had no choice following the spoken words.  So ... IDK ... didn't seem like the type to take multiple bonds ...

44 minutes ago, Calderis said:

That... Actually bothers me a lot. Mainly because of the portion of my post you didn't quote... How do the three bondsmiths use the same surges if they are bonded to different Spren? It runs contrary to one of the few rules that I thought was really concrete as far as the basis of surgebinding goes. The surges are granted by the type of Spren bonded. Whereas this indicates the surge is decided by the order independent of the Spren involved.

It seems like an inconsistency of the type we rarely see from Brandon. 

Just thinking out loud here but why do we know bondsmiths all have the same powers or necessarily work like normal KRs?

20 hours ago, Spoolofwhool said:

The issue I have with the overall theory that the three bondsmiths are bonded to three spren, each one associated with one of the shards, is that we have been told that the spren which form the Nahel Bond are of Honor and Cultivation, with the implication of only being of those two. Therefore, I don't think Taln is bonded to a nahel bond spren. However, that does not exclude the possibility that he is somehow affected by Odium's investiture.

42 minutes ago, Spoolofwhool said:

Except that we've been explicitly told that the nahel bond sprens are of Honor and Cultivation, with the implication that they are only of Honor or Cultivation. Also, this is a personal aside, but the fact that the Stormfather has a significant connection to Honor doesn't feel that relevant to me, nor do I think should be taken that critically, considering this is the first time that the Stormfather has actually nahel bonded someone. Previous times, prior to the Recreance, Honor was still alive then, and it follows that it was only the spren which fused with his shadow to become the Stormfather which bonded. 

Both good points. I had not thought of the idea that the "stormfather" as we know it did not exist until Honor's death (obviously it was deeply shaped by his death but I assumed it existed in some (similar) form before that)...nor did I know about that passage of WoR. 

Meh...just spit-balling here but these are good points.  Bondsmith may be a stretch...but most agree there is something going on with "Taln."  Whatever that is, I still think it's something nefarious. 

18 hours ago, Spoolofwhool said:

The issue I have with the overall theory that the three bondsmiths are bonded to three spren, each one associated with one of the shards, is that we have been told that the spren which form the Nahel Bond are of Honor and Cultivation, with the implication of only being of those two. Therefore, I don't think Taln is bonded to a nahel bond spren. However, that does not exclude the possibility that he is somehow affected by Odium's investiture.

So...I mean...no more than 3 bondsmiths at a time....and the one we have seen is bonded the Stormfather (Honor's personal spren in some sense)...we also know that the Nightwatcher is likely something similar only connected to Cultivation (because Lyft's spren refers to her as mother)....it follows that Odium would have something similar. 

We really don't have enough to intelligently discuss this beyond that I don't think but 3 is a pretty convincing number and if 1 of them is the Stormfather you would think the others are connected to the other shards. 

Also, I get the comment that bondsmiths are KR and therefore not Odium...but we really don't actually know that for sure.  I mean, even referring to them as a proper/standard order of KR (given that we know there are only 3) is weird...so it's possible a bondsmith is something different than a standard KR (WoB almost confirm this in saying they're closer to Heralds)...perhaps something with close bond to a shard.  If that is the case...the number 3 has even more significance. 

So here, the idea would simply be that "Taln" is in fact an impostor sent from Damnation posing as Taln, to do Odium's bidding...perhaps to undermine attempts by Dalinar to unite them or even to "unite" those who would further Odiums end-game (for whatever reason). 

The main thing here is that he's definitely got some info that only a Herald (or something else from Damnation) would ahve and he's definitely not being confirmed as Taln by Brandon .... and he's definitely got abilities (snatching poison darts) and he's set up to get with the Vorin nuts (Sons of Honor) and Amaram (which are inventively on the wrong side)....so I could see it happening where he's there to steer things in a way that frustrates everything Dalinar is doing....and if the Heralds are not helping (which the few we know are around do not seem to be helping) then him posing as a Herald will allow a lot "frustration" to ensue (really...he could completely undermine Dalinar and put the Sons of Honor in charge of everything if he plays his cards correctly).  

*Obligatory statement about how I'm sure someone else has posted this but I haven't seen it and I'm sorry if it's out there already and take no credit etc. etc.*

WoB state there are never more than 3 bondsmiths at a time...and that bondsmiths are closer to the Heralds than the other Knights Radiant.  We saw Dalinar bond with the Stormfather to become a bondsmith.  There are ... obviously ... 3 Gods known to the system.  Therefore, it makes sense that bondsmiths bond with the spren of a God.  In all likelihood then, someone could bond with the Nightwatcher (perhaps the spren of Cultivation) and become a bondsmith.  Someone could, therefore, also bond with Odium in some manner. 

What if Taln has bonded with Odium's spren and is basically a spy sent back from Damnation for as of yet unknown dubious reasons? 

Ishar is the leading candidate to be a traitor. 

Also, what if the desolation is honor? If they really are fighting in the Halls to retake the afterlife then maybe when they lose that battle they need another desolation to replenish the warriors in the Halls....

Damnation.

Some aspects of this theory are almost obviously going to happen IMO...nice work.

Makes me think the world will end at the end of book 5, or at the very least almost every major character will die. The second set of books will be saving the souls of the dead. 

Graphic Audio is amazing, everyone should listen to that anyway.

How many drafts does he have to do? 

Is Zahel light eyes? 

On 9/6/2016 at 8:35 AM, The One Who Connects said:

Well, the modern Terris people are roughly 10 generations of changes in the ash world, which TLR's time did not have to deal with so they are somewhat genetically different. In terms of film-making, he only appears near the end. Well, that and the fact that there are.. 2, maybe 3 other Terrismen in the first book so they can all be semi-distinct characters.

I'm just saying, if Terris people are black, and other people are not, then TLR's secret Terris heritage makes no sense. Terris are obviously distinct, but it's more subtle than skin color. 

How can you make the Terris people distinct but not reveal the Lord Ruler is Terris?