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You mean that your best friend is Hoid?

On page 317 of the Kindle version, Jenet the stable master says "Of course. I keep looking at those captain's knots on your shoulder, but--" That is just one example, but it's the first one I found. I just looked up the description of the uniforms. I wanted to see where the insignia was placed because I thought the placement seemed off. However, it says that the insignia was on the shoulder, so @venamis got that right. The description of Kaladin's captain's uniform is as follows: "It included a blue waistcoat and a double-breasted longcoat, the lining white, the buttons of silver. The longcoat was meant to hang open, despite the rows of buttons down each side." The description of the standard uniforms mentions that the pants (stiff trousers) were blue, and the book describes the uniforms as being "cobalt blue." Overall, The Artist did a really good job, even if he/she did get the color of the pants wrong. That, and the boots being dark brown instead of black. I still prefer the picture of Kaladin on the cover of the book, but that is more a stylistic preference.

Like Numuhukumakiaki'aialunamor said, we don't really have any proof one way or the other. But, we do know that Rlain was with them, and did not change forms. After both storms pass, Rlain is with the other bridgemen who meet Kaladin on the plateau and lead him to Urithiru, and he is not in stormform. We know this because he has a skull plate and not hair strands. So, either we have proof that Rlain was not exposed to the Everstorm, or we have proof that the Listeners will not all be forced to transform. We don't know how his (presumably) being one of Kaladin's squires will affect things.

So, I was somewhat surprised at the direction of this thread. My impression was that the parshmen and Listeners would all be forced into a new -- evil -- form. But while looking for the names of Listener forms in the WoR epigraphs, I found this Listener stanza: The last line could support the general opinion that not all Listeners will be evil. I certainly hope that is the case, especially for Eshonai and Shen/Rlain.

Do you have the exact phrasing of that? My understanding (though this may just be from my head) is that there are several different forms of voidspren. The everstorm may force the parshmen to change into one of those forms, which may or may not be stormform. I've always assumed that we would see several of the ancient Listener forms (i.e. nightform, decayform) as a result of the Everstorm. Somewhere on here I read that it is possible for humans to bond with Voidspren, but it is more difficult than for the Parshendi. That also applies to Horneaters. Personally, I don't think all of the Horneaters will choose the same path. They are human (mostly), and humans have the right to choose. I suspect that some besides Rock will join the Radiants, others will try to stay out of it, and some may choose to join the Parshendi. I'm pretty sure you meant "important," not powerless. Another interesting aspect of Shen's future is that he is (presumably) one of Kaladin's squires. So we have a Parshendi, one of the Ancient Ones who may or may not be forced into the form of a Voidbringer, who is in some way bound to one of the Knights Radiant. That will be an interesting twist.

That is a good point, to an extent. I don't think Nale would knowingly allow Szeth to advance Odium's power, but it is possible that Szeth will unknowingly work for Odium. Mistborn: Secret History spoiler:

How does that quote show that the Skybreakers could identify lies? It shows that they were inordinately skilled at something, but I don't remember any indication of what they were good at.

When discussing Cosmere and other Sanderson things, we use a lot of abbreviations, some of which I still don't understand. To help clarify these for other users (and myself!) I want to have a place where we can define these abbreviations. I have a thread in the General Discussion area for non-Sanderson abbreviations. If I get an abbreviation or its definition wrong, please let me know so I can correct it. This is supposed to make things more understandable, not less. Also, please let me know if I posted this in the wrong area. I think I did it right, but I'm not very familiar with this kind of system. WoB: Words of Brandon SA: Stormlight Archive WoK: Way of Kings WoR: Words of Radiance KR: Knights Radiant MB: Mistborn TLR: The Lord Ruler FE: Mistborn: Final Empire HoA: Hero of Ages HoA: Hero of Ages AoL: Alloy of Law WB: Warbreaker

<p>As I've been reading 17S posts, I often find combinations of letters that I don't quite understand. I haven't found a place on this site to help me understand it, so I'm starting one. This thread is for abbreviations not related to Brandon stuff. I'll start another thread in the General Brandon Discussion area for abbreviations related to the books. To keep this thread easy to navigate, please try not to re-post abbreviations that have already been defined.</p> <p> </p> <p>IIRC: If I recall correctly</p> <p>IMO: In my opinion</p> <p>POV: Point of View</p>

Honor has some limited ability to see into the future. On page 995 of the Kindle edition of Way of Kings, Honor says to Dalinar, I don't know if that supports or contradicts your theory, but I wanted to put it out there. Also, could you tell me where you learned that Hoid uses Feruchemy to know where to go? I hadn't heard that before, although I'm admittedly very out of the loop.

(Okay, I know this is a really long post, but I've got several references in here, and that takes up a lot of space, so just bear with me.) I always saw pewter as a strength-enhancer with the side benefit of ignoring wounds. I also want to point out that using Vin as a reference point for an Allomancy generalization is a bad idea. Vin is strangely powerful. In book one, after their Steelpush shoving match, Kelsier says: In book 2 Elend is talking to Ham after Ham's sparring match with Vin: Ham replies: That last one supports both of my comments. Ham (a Thug who runs a crew of Thugs) implies that the main aspect of pewter is its ability to increase your strength. At the same time, he mentions that Vin is incredibly powerful. In this case he has an explanation, but we see plenty of occasions where Vin being like an insect could not account for her strange strength.

Mistborn series Elantris Warbreaker Stormlight (insert 2nd Mistborn series anywhere after Mistborn) I like to suggest Mistborn or Elantris as introduction novels. I find Warbreaker a little slow at the beginning. It's pretty much the only Sanderson book I ever have a hard time finishing (unless I've read the same book twenty times in one week). Elantris has an great plot but the characters are kind of stagnant/flat. Mistborn is amazing (plot, world, and especially character development), and is much shorter and simpler than Stormlight. It introduces you to Sanderson's style without overwhelming you. Stormlight Archive is EPIC in every sense of the word, and reading it later decreases the amount of time that you have to wait for the next one.

You have entirely too much time on your hands. Did you find SA Lego sets or did you just find things that happened to work almost perfectly for this purpose?

Mostly to get this thread back on topic, I think we don't have quite enough information to answer that specific question. Can Lopen use Stormlight? Absolutely and undeniably. Is Lopen a Surgebinder? Possibly. I'm almost certain that he is a squire in the order of Windrunners, which essentially means he's Kaladin's squire. (I'm not sure how the whole squire thing would work with multiple Windrunners.) Lopen's being a Surgebinder or not depends on whether or not squires can Surgebind.

In the paperback version of WoR, Brandon actually did improve this part. At the very end of the Kaladin/Szeth fight in the new version, Kaladin started to kill Szeth but at the last moment changed his attack and instead stabbed him in the arm (IIRC). Szeth then fell to the ground, died from the impact, but was brought back by the fabrial thing. I think this is a little like someone in our world dying and then being brought back by that electric shock to the chest thing. Just so's you know.

Here's another awesome WoK quote: Ch 26 Stillness (Incidentally this is actually a quote from in-world WoK as well as SA WoK.)

"Somebody has to start. Somebody has to step forward and do what is right, because it is right. If nobody starts, then others cannot follow." WoK Ch 41 Of Alds and Milp

Your boon is that you always have perfectly clean teeth (and nice breath) without ever having to brush or floss. Your curse is that you can only say, "It doesn't work that way." (see WoK I-7 Baxil: Doesn't work that way. It's not a game, no matter how the stories try to put it. The Nightwatcher doesn't trick you or twist your words. You ask a boon. She gives what she feels you deserve, then gives you a curse to go along with it. Sometimes related, sometimes not.") I wish that the batteries on my electronic devices never had to be charged and were always at full power.

Incidentally, Allomantic power from metals can only be flared so high, unlike Feruchemy which is limited only by the stores you have. Using the mists to power Allomancy can have strange consequences: specifically becoming a Splinter (? check term)

I actually found the original reference to the term "Shadow of self." In Hero of Ages, Sazed is talking to the First Generation of the Kandra, who were Alendi's fellow Terris packmen. It reads "'His [Preservation's] mind, however, was all but destroyed--for this was the sacrifice he made to imprison Ruin.' 'The sliver remains,' another reminded him. 'The shadow of self.'" Apparently "shadow of self" is the term the Kandra elders use for the mist spirit who appears and stabs the Hero's companion near the Well. That raises an entirely different set of possibilities. By the way, I keep editing this post to try to get the quote at the top to actually register as a quote.

I find it interesting that everyone is assuming that the golden hair is the Royal Locks, when there is a people on Roshar with golden hair. From WoK chapter 18, "Yis was a yellow-eyed Iriali, with stark golden hair. Not blond, golden. There was even a metallic sheen to it." Since we know that there is an entire people with golden hair in this world (Roshar), the main reason to think it's the Royal Locks is to find a worldhopping connection. I just wanted to throw that out there.

Radiants do NOT have natural fighting skills. In WoK chapter 68 it states, "Stormlight did not grant skill. It could not make a man into something he was not. It enhanced, it strengthened, it invigorated. It perfected." In other words, Kaladin is already a really good fighter, but the improved speed, stamina, and reaction time granted by stormlight raise his abilities to new heights. This is further supported in WoR chapter 82 when Kaladin learns that he can still fight without stormlight, just not as well. Szeth, the only other person we see fighting with stormlight, also had training, at least in hand-to-hand combat.

Ooklalhoo'Elin: The actual quote from Rock's story is, "Last, tana'kai--desperate--visited most powerful of gods, gods of mountains." I don't think the Nightwatcher could be considered a spren of the mountains (mountainspren?). Other threads on this site pretty well establish her as Cultivation. You may be thinking along the right lines, though. On the other hand, the story is a metaphor and is presumably ancient, so we don't know what may have been altered or changed. Aside from that nitpicking, cool theory. Losing their songs is also an interesting aspect. As Rock tells Kaladin in book one "[My name] is poem. On peaks, everyone's name is poem." Duels are "fought" by singing or reciting insults that parallel the person's name. When Dunny sings, Rock says that he thought no lowlanders could sing, which (along with him harmonizing with Dunny) strongly implies a great respect/love of song in Rock and likely his entire people. So perhaps they have a faint memory of hearing the rhythms, much like the Alethi have a faint memory of Radiants all having light eyes (hence social structure).

Two more Kaladin Death Rattles: "He must pick it up, the fallen title! The tower, the crown, and the spear!" (chapter 53) The spear refers to Kaladin, and the tower and the crown refer to Dalinar (or possibly his sons). The Kholin glyphpair as used by Dalinar is stylized into the shape of a tower and a crown. "Above the final void I hang, friends behind, friends before. The feast I must drink clings to their faces, and the words I must speak spark in my mind. The old oaths will be spoken anew." (chapter 59) This refers to Kaladin rescuing Dalinar's army from the Tower. He jumps away from the bridgemen (friends behind) and towards the Alethi army (friends before). The Parshendi have beards woven with infused gemstones (the feast I must drink clings to their faces). Kaladin suddenly knows the second Ideal of the Windrunners (the words I must speak spark in my mind). He speaks the old oaths.