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Dragenhermit

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  1. I feel some clarification of my points is in order. The truth in this case is irrelevant if no one know what is true. It is mainly a case of what the characters think they know at a given time. To that end, Shallan telling others about her surgbindings (particularly lightweaving) could have huge ramifications. People are not going to like the possibility of unknown radiants (who are still viewed as sinful by Vorinism) masquerading about as important officials of the Alethi government. It is easy to see how that might make people paranoid. I also think that Dalinar really believes that his niece is dead judging by what I've read in WoR (he spends time trying to get Navani to accept the death of her daughter) and Kaladin believes and trusts Dalinar. More over, Kaladin's men still guard the Kholin's and so they can restrict access to people who they think might be a threat. All that being said, Jasnah is not going to be thrown in a dungeon for months. I imagine that there will be an altercation between a group of Kaladin's men and Jasnah when she first arrives and it will be sorted out rather quickly (he doesn't have to be directly involved), but that it will leave a sour impression of their Captain in Jasnah's mind. Additionally this whole scenario will play out very different if lightweaving doesn't become commonly known, although to be fair to my own argument there is no real reason for Shallan to keep that information to herself, especially since the ghostbloods already know.
  2. First, will Kaladin know about lightweaving when they meet? If so, I don't think that showing stormlight will necessarily absolve Jasnah of suspicion. It is important (IMO) that when Jasnah arrives at Urithiru, which will likely be delayed by the fact that she has no idea where it is, that she meet with Shallan or someone else who knows her and can identity that she is the real thing first, rather than Kaladin. The good Captain doesn't even know what Jasnah is supposed to look like let alone what her personal quirks were. He doesn't have the necessary knowledge to spot a fake from the real one, and so he will make a mistake. Second, you are absolutely correct regarding Kaladin being closely tied to the Kholin family. The same thing could have also be said of Sadeas at one point in time, and look how that turned out. Of course we, as the omnipresent readers, know that that will never happen, but these poor little characters (despite some of them being clever) don't know what we know. As Jasnah investigates Kaladin many of the things that she can find will likely make her more suspicious of the Captain, not less. Remember, he did intend to defect with the bridge crews at some point and become a mercenary army, he has ranted in public about the light eyes, and one of his top lieutenant was directly involved in a plot to kill the king (just to name a few things). Of course Dalinar could probably tell her that he also saved the king and himself and that she could trust him, but in all honesty I don't think she will hear that until after the fact. Jasnah isn't the kind of person who goes meekly to her uncle with her fears, she is the kind of person who acts. To me it is in character for her to investigate, analyze, and come to a conclusion on what to do about Kaladin on her own, especially if everyone else is swamped trying to deal with the everstorm. It was just one of many ideas. I will freely admit that I don't have a good grasp of the end game here. That being said, I feel we don't know enough about Jasnah to really rule much out. Once we get a significant Jasnah VP that will probably change.
  3. There is something that a few of you have touch on that I think should be revisited in greater detail with regards to the Kaladin/Jasnah potential relationship (this may seem like a reach at first but bear with me). Jasnah has tow sides in my mind. There is Jasnah the scholar who is a competent, determined, and brilliant researcher who is absolutely focused on unlocking the mysteries of the Voidbringers. To Jasnah the scholar, Kaladin probably ranges somewhere between a curiosity to a mild annoyance. A bright and quick witted man might intrigue her or their head strong personalities might initially get on each others' nerves. However there is also a second side to her, a Jasnah the Machiavellian Politician, who is totally committed to defending her family, its power, and its prestige. This is someone who doesn't flinch when dealing with the Weeper, someone who says morals and virtues be damned and the ends justify the means. From the perspective of Jasnah the Machiavellian Politician, Kaladin is the most dangerous threat to her and her family, save the voidbringers themselves. Kaladin is currently the strongest combat radiant by far, he is the only leader of a radiant order not currently or soon to be a member of the Kholin Family, he is the captain of bridge four who may soon be an entire squad of windrunners, and he commands the undying loyalty of the bridge crews which are essentially a small army. He is a strong critic of the king, and he hates light eyes and everything they stand for. To have such a potent political adversary outside the control of the Kholin family would be simply unacceptable. To make matters worse, think how Jasnah could meet Kaladin. The guard (or former guard) of the royal family encounters someone claiming to be the relative of said family, someone that Shallan confirmed was dead, who is asking to speak with Dalinar or the King or both. Given the information that Kaladin could have at the time, he would have to be an idiot not to arrest her, for she could easily be an assassin. What does it say to Jasnah about this man and his influence that he can just arrest the King's sister? How would Jasnah react? Would she try to have Kaladin killed and hope that the Kholins will be able to weather the blow-back from the bridge crews? Would she try to incorporate Kaladin and his power base into the Kholin family? If so, how? She can't really arrange a marriage between Kaladin and Renarin like she did with Shallan and Adolin. Does she sacrifice herself for her family, and commit herself to a subversive relationship with Kaladin? Does she make some kind of deal or trap Kaladin using some sort of subterfuge? The only thing I can say for certain is that Jasnah is not the kind of character to sit on her laurels. She is the proactive type, and that will lead her into serious conflict with Kaladin in the not so distant future. This theory may sound either too much like a Greek tragedy or too outlandish for some but I think BS has demonstrated that he can write exceptionally dark, disturbing, and unexpected narratives from time to time.
  4. If we assume that the Kaladin excerpt is cannon for a moment (which BS said it isn't yet), there are a few things we know about what will await him in hearthstone. I don't want to be a debby downer, but given the evidence it would not surprise me to find out that the whole town was wiped out, with Laral, Lirin, Hesina, and Roshone all dead and rotting in the sun. Some character development.
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