Chiri-Chiri

Come on!!! I"m extremely cute!!!

You mean kiss Chiri Chiri, don't you??

Marry Wit, kiss Tanavast, kill Cultivation.

Lopen, Adolin, Eshonai

1 hour ago, Toaster Retribution said:

So, the new episode...

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First off, the deaths were great. Theon, Lyanna, Beric and Jorah all got pretty good endings (that flaming sword throw by Beric!) but they should not have had Arya kill the Nights King. That was not her story. It was Jons story. Sams story. Brans story. Storms, it belonged more to Edd and Beric than it did to Arya. And the Nights King didn’t get any reveals, any explanations, any complexity. He just died. The final five minutes was a huge failure for me.

 

I partialy agree with you, for me was a great failure from the begining. 

Not only secondary characters, some of the main characters are going to die in the next episode, for example Bienne and Jaime were saying goodbye to each other  and in a way to the fans too, mayhaps same with Theon and Sansa, Jorah and Dany, Arya (I'm not sure about her) .....

For practical reasons, I think that Tormund has more chances of staying alive than others "more important", because the death of a main character close a plot and therefore less minutes on the screen. Tormund can give a spark of humor when is needed to raise the spirits or simply to fill space. (And yes, I like him  )

Well, they're taking their time to prepare the develovent of the end of the threat.

I'd have thought this chapter was a bit boring and quite slow, but the scenes between Brienne And Jaime  worth the waste of time. Those moments were pure gold!!!

From my point of view the readers of SOIF aren't going to find all the answers of the plots until George finally writes Winds. The serie is going to develop the main plots and leave some holes, unfortunately It's imposible to wrap it all on 6 episodes. 

I agree, It's was a good introduction to the final season. It was expected to be rushed but I think that the lack of books in these two last seasons is obviously affecting to the quality of dialogue and plots in general.

Anyway, I enjoyed especially the dragon ride and the eye contact between Bran and Jaime.

"Hello. My name is Íñigo Montoya, you killed my goat. Prepare to die."

"Hasta la vista Goat."

4 hours ago, SwordNimiForPresident said:

If every character is a redemption story then there’s no rollercoaster, it becomes predictable and expected. I think Moash will have many chances to choose the right path down the road and will always choose the wrong one instead.

I agree with you in the first statement, but the rollercoaster comes with the redemption of the character that everyone thinks he has no opportunity to do it.
He has fallen so low that (almost) nobody expects it.

4 hours ago, SwordNimiForPresident said:

Szeth was never the bad guy. He was simply obeying the law. The bad guys are the ones that made those laws and the ones who held his stone. We simply didn’t know that as the reader (though there are many clues). There’s no room for that in Moash’s story because we already have all the background info and his choices and actions are clearly his own.

If a law or a religion says that everyone has to kill a newborn in Christmas, Would you do it? or would you try to stop whom would try to do it. 

Sometimes the bad guy is who doesn't do anything when he can, or who follow the rules knowing that he is doing horrible actions.

4 hours ago, SwordNimiForPresident said:

I suspect that Moash started as a plot device to make Kaladin stumble in his progression and separate him from Dalinar when he’s at Narak, thereby facilitating his dramatic return. From there the character probably took on a life of its own as an antagonist. Some antagonists are meant to be hated, just look at Dilaf from Elantris.

You're problably right, but the real antagonist is Odium, the people can chose to follow him or give him their backs, and in a 10 book's series it would be quite flat if the arc of a character doesn't grow from the third book. 
Who knows, maybe all of you are right, and Moash ends being the Odium's puppet (dont you remind this a bit of Szeth arc?, Szeth follow orders, Moash too)

On 5/1/2019 at 6:22 PM, Ripheus23 said:

If so, we will have established that characters whose names begin with "M" and end in "sh" are always subject to a compadre::shill-for-evil::redeemed character arc.

Exactly, think in Mushu (Mulan), we all hate him when he broke the stone dragon but at the end, he achieved to help Mulan. Coincidence? I do not think so. 

12 hours ago, SwordNimiForPresident said:

Marsh was a good guy who fought back from the start. Moash is already way past the point of “I was secretly good all along”. He’s probably going to end up as Odium’s champion which means he also has to die at some point. I think his story will be an anti redemption one. Instead of someone who followed the wrong path coming back to the light, we will have a guy who was never really that great to begin with sinking deeper and deeper into evil.

 

TLDR: don’t put your Moash on my Marsh

I saw Marsh first!! He is mine!!  (Adolin too )

I'd be quite boring if you don't get any surprise, Do you like flat characters? People without personal growing or evolution at all? Because this is what you are asking for a character that until now only had make a few really really bad choises.

He felt regret when he saw Kaladin when he kill to Elkohrar, he missed bridge4's crew, he help to the pashmendi, he does't have a wicked core, he is simply quite lost, his thirst for revenge blinded his good judgment.

Szeth was the bad boy in the first book, but now he surprised us and we are hoping him to joing Dalinar. 

When I read I like to feel like a rollercoaster with surprises and unexpected twists of plot, If Moash finish like Odium's champion and the Kaladin's antagonist, It would be so predictible and boring. 

Shallan would be nice, she's exasperatingly boring. 

I hope for Moash a great arc of redemption, maybe I'm a bit naive, but I think that at the last moment He is going to do the right thing, kind of "Marsh style"  Deep, very very deep inside he is not so wicked.

Curious, I was between Chiri-Chiri and wraisjghnivs, this last won but It was already taken.

@Chaos Happy birthday!!

Doomslug the Destroyer  

I love the way Spin express herself!! Kind of dramatic and pompous .. And her attempt of flirting was really charming. Jerkface turned out to be more jerk than expected..., well he was defending against Spin's actions, but that was a low blow.... Jerk! 

That was a really short chapter...

I too thought that the slug could be a Krel, or another kind of alien, the previous inhabitants of the planet, maybe he kept in hibernation until Spensa "unfreezed" him??

But the most interesting part is that I took for granted the "the dragon" would be the Ship, and know It seems that could be a flutist slug 

Good to know it @Govir , I don't mind a romance, but a surprising plot is always better!!

This is a young adult book, I take for granted that the romance would be more like a innocent flirting, but never it would be the core of the book.

Anyway, romance is the least I enjoy of Brandon`s books. I enjoy it, but enjoy the rest much more!!

1 hour ago, Govir said:

Since the Oathbringer previews, I've started to view these like TV Shows (on actual TV, not Netflix). i.e. each week of previews is like an episode in a weekly TV show. I always want to know more each week, but being able to come to these forums and make wild speculations from week to week is great fun.

I'll try to see it like you, but right now I'm completely hooked and waiting for the next chapter.

I love your prediction, I hope it happens that way

Maybe the Skywards prove their value in a extreme situation and at the end all of them can be Pilot.

Definitely Jorgen is safe, but I'm not so sure about Kimmalyn.

Another possibility is that the rejected ones will be Spensa's crew in her superb ship

Sorry, but I think that the romance is crystal clear, though I'd rather Rig for her.

I don't know if I like it, It's kind of torture, a pleasurable torture but torture.

I love what I've already read, looking forward to next chapters....

"I don't like goat. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere."

"Goats are a girl's best friend and a man's worst enemy."

"Is that a goat in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me?"

"Scarlett: Rhett, Rhett... Rhett, if you go, where shall I go? What shall I do?

Rhett Butler: Frankly, my dear, I don't give a goat."

I suppose that if a moderator erase the account it´ll easily resolve the problem

the account is @vodiyehi and it has written 789 post so far

It's extremely annoying

Because you knew the answer before I could edit the question!! 

1 hour ago, AxeliustheGreat said:

Kelsier had difficulty with whole 'peace' thing. He had never seen whatever 'peace' was. Thus, California became a reservation for animals, leaving hundreds of thousands of humans homeless, but nobody cared about humans any longer, so no one noticed. The bear 'Dalinar Kholin' started talking about integrating a 'Lighteyes' and 'Darkeyes' system, so Kelsier forced him to read Atlas Shrugged and all of Ayn Rand's other works. 

I suck at editing, sorry!!

I said, "You mean 'Lightpaw' and 'Darkpaw' instead of a 'Lighteyes' and 'Darkeyes' system, don't you?"

6 minutes ago, BitBitio the Mudkip said:

I'm sure he does.

You're a Truthwatcher!!

1 hour ago, AxeliustheGreat said:

 

Hi @AxeliustheGreat !

Did one bear hold a huge book?

Was his butt tight? In that case, I'll join them!!

13 hours ago, Ammanas said:

Evidently that's what authors do. The publishers came out with the release date for Thorn of Emberlain on September of last year (usually a release date set by publisher is pretty reliable). Of course he didn't meet it and in about March of this year Scott Lynch is going around on twitter asking for help on how to write about homosexual relationships. 

Thank you Ammanas, I have absolutely no idea how an author works.

I always thought that the bigger issues were defined and fixed in the two first drafts, I supposed that the third draft was for fixing tiny details.

11 minutes ago, Mestiv said:

You'd need like -9000 negative rep IIRC.

Bright side, I won't lure vultures 

It has its charm to be Rotting Chasmfiend Carcass, sounds cool, a bit smelly but cool!!
I can't understand the fight between Kalolin Shadolin or whatever....  The greatness of Brandond Sanderson's books is its epicness, not their romantic relationships.
(I'm trying to get "Rotting Chasmfiend Carcass")

On 6/4/2018 at 2:02 AM, PrinceDusty said:

It's mostly random, but I tried to make it so that people wouldn't have to make hard decisions over which character the like better until the later rounds

Steris vs Adolin is a really hard decision!!

9 minutes ago, Sallin Zeras said:

Nah, that's definitely for some Skyward stuff, as its about sentient spaceships and stuff

But it's kind of weird that he asks for help during the third draft...

I don't know