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Perhaps more of huge rechargeable stormlight battery that stores it more efficiently and in larger quantity to supply the city, possibly being charged during highstorms. Also Lift could convert food to stormlight. Food which are not of shard power I believe. Even though the limit to the conversion she can do is unknown, it is interesting to consider the implications.

Id like to think the honorblade can be used on the oathgate, would be unusual if KRs could use it but the Heralds cant. Though theres the matter of the Stone Shamans coming to reclaim Szeth's blade. Are we certain that Urithiru dont get Highstorms? Or was it due to the Weeping not ending yet. Theoretically Dalinar could request Stormfather to provide them highstorms for charging up, though I would think they are just relying on the immigrants to bring in charged gems for now. Jasnah could be on her way back to Urithiru to join them as well.

And Navani will be like "Oh great, She's back." Shalash will like Shallan for a daugter-in-law too.

Shalash will meet her sons and save them from impending doom. Adolin emotions will lead him down the path of a dustbringer!

As evidence in how bk 1 n 2 was written, the major pov characters and associated KR orders dont necessarily reflect the story progression. Dustbringers can and probably have a fair amount of screentime along with other major characters. Considering Dustbringers, skybreakers and windrunners being the combat forces of the KR, I believe we will definitely see much action from each. Basically these representations dont quite reflect how much is revealed for the unmentioned characters/orders, nor do I believe the order of the books to reflect when the character's story are revealed. Edit: Me thinks Brandon has hard time squeezing in KR representatives into 10 books while also wanting to include POV from villians, heralds and whatnot. So he just overlaps and condense some of them to allow for more perspectives other than just the KRs.

If we look at what has been done for the first 2 books despite each book being linked to one KR order and one main POV character, we can see that there will possibly be more secondary/minor POV characters. And unfortunately, the first 2 books doesn't quite focus on their associated KR orders imo. About half of WoK(bk1) reveals Kaladin's story in which only the latter parts reveals more about him being a KR, not much has been revealed about Windrunners per say till WoR(bk2) where Kaladin says the oath and becomes a Windrunner. (We can see despite Kaladin being the focus of bk1, he only develops into a Windrunner KR in bk 2.) In WoR, Shallan's story is revealed as well as her abilities, although not much about her order is explained. Her POV focus on her past story but I still feel there is more to it. Why would her mother want to kill Shallan, why was Shallan able to manifest a shardblade by then. So despite her being the focus, much of her story still awaits developing in other books, as well as what she will be contributing as a KR. I am actually looking forward to Renarin, Taln and Lift more than the rest. But I believe all their story will develop significantly regardless of the book orders. Renarin's background story might seem uninteresting now but I suspect more will revealed together with Adolin's and perhaps their mother(kinda hoping it would be one of the heralds, shalash perhaps?). I am looking forward to Renarin's growth and contribution as a truthwatcher mostly. Taln (which I speculate to be the actual herald in a broken state after Damnation, possibly on behalf of his herald brethen, making his suffering bad enough to break him), the only herald who didnt break his oathpact like the rest. I am keen to know the cause and implications, as well as seeing him recover to his former self and shedding more light on KR matters and the true desolation. Lift I was hoping to be more mature by the time but I wonder if the Everstorm and the true desolation will actually drag for that long. She is mentioned as very important and I hope to see her mature even as a child. I secretly want her to heal the sprens and heal Taln. Exactly. And it makes it harder to speculate the order associated with the major POV focus characters. Also speculating that our heralds will be more involved with the KR rookies, hopefully on their side and not fighting them, maybe some of both, but interesting to find out. I am more inclined to think those two might not end up as KR. And perhaps there are more KRs than just one from each order. Szeth, Eshonai and the heralds could just be POV worthy characters to reveal the different sides of the true desolation. They could be associated with the KR orders without having to be one.

I know Honor(Tanavast/Almighty), Odium(Rayse) & Cultivation(unknown bearer) are 3 different shards of Adonalisium. I didnt define them to be good/evil but I stated I understood Odium & Honor as opposing forces, which is a fair assumption and similar to the shards in Mistborn. If you could link some references regarding how the shards came to their possession or their shardic intent or their relation to one another, would be great, curious to read about those but didn't find much in coppermind/stormlightwiki. So it is possible for the opposing shards to merge but under very special conditions, would we assume that the conditions are met as far as the story goes? Perhaps it comes down to understanding the intent of the shards or the bearers of the shards. So back to topic, fabrials being technology created that manipulates the captured spren and stormlight. Does this technology tap into Odium's powers specifically? Or could it simply be the expected actions of the captured spren when it responds to stormlight. As far as I recall, it appears to be just technology or science. Perhaps the ancient fabrials work differently. (Using shardblades with healthy sprens) Which makes me wonder about soulcasting fabrials, do the non-surgebinder users cross over to shadesmar?

Poor Kal doesn't get much revealed in this reading. Jasnah's part has afew important revelations, implications & potential speculation-worthy info. (Pattern buzz with approval) Upvoted pikachu for standing up for Kaladin!

From what I understood Odium is an opposing force to Honor & Cultivation. Not entirely sure if Cultivation is a neutral force but it seems to align itself to Honor. And according to WoB, most sprens are part Honor part Cultivation. And there are sprens that are from Odium, as well as ancient sprens that exist way before the arrival of those 3 forces. Parshendi's bonding of spren are likely of Odium, at least for Stormform. Not too sure about the other forms. Most of the sprens have not commented on Fabrials or expressed any concern of it, which doesn't say much in itself, but at least they do not seem to hate it. The oathgate, an artifact of the KR (opposing forces of Odium), is an ancient fabrial, so perhaps fabrials are more neutral.

I kinda want him to use the windrunner honorblade and Shallan/Jasnah to work together to revive the blades (since deadspren blades dont activate the ancient fabrials, I wonder what else is significant about it) Theoretically if the spren was healed, it would revert back to its Shadesmar form, the spren would have to go through the selection and evolving bond process again to become a blade assuming it would want to do so again. I wonder what would that accomplish. Some WoB quotes worth considering

Suddenly occured to me that "care" could just mean concern instead of careful. Like how much she cares about stopping the everstorm. But back to topic, if Adolin has used stormlight, some spren would be involved and mentioned at least. Although it could as subtle as Renarin getting perfect vision again..(that red herring about him refusing to wear rather than not needing it.) So I suppose its not too far fetch to think that his "supernatural" instincts to dodge could turn out to be some spren related.

LOL. Yea at least 10 years more to finally complete the series (planned 1.5-2 years for each book). We be much older and still speculating..

Yea I meant that the terms of the contract are invalid as of current events. Everyone knows by now that he is not mad with what happened on the Shattered Plains. So I think Dalinar certainly has the authority to challenge or revoke it, or perhaps get the King to overrule it if necessary. Mainly, Adolin wouldn't and couldn't prove the conditions of the contract to be valid. Dalinar's credibility is strong now or perhaps more so as a KR. Yea patricide is worse but her circumstances were more dire. She would be able to empathize and she admitted as much to Pattern that she considers herself a murderer. The other speculation is rather unlikely but hey, our imagination knows no bounds and maybe no logic!

By the end of WoR, Dalinar's visions have been proven to be right. The circumstances of that mentioned contract is different now and Dalinar himself can surely revoke it if necessary. Adolin killed Sadeas for his family, makes no sense to betray his family after. I believe if Adolin is getting jealous, he would have shown it when he learned of Kaladin. The rest of the KR are also his loved ones. Hard to speculate since he might be revealed to be a KR sooner or later. Adolin killing Sadeas is about as serious as Shallan killing her father imho. Threat to family and the act of murder, Shallan would even find it as something they share in common now.

Szeth is not a KR, he has no spren bond and all his surgebinding abilities were granted by the honorblade. He is using more stormlight than a KR and he doesn't have their spren bond abilities.I was thinking KR have an edge over a normal person like Szeth in terms of stormlight usage or healing from the dangerous stormlight usage. Szeth might be healing himself but at a reduced capacity compared to a KR. I assumed a KR will be more efficient in stormlight usage compared to Szeth. I also considered skills and experience since Dalinar commented on it the first time he used stormlight, saying that its easier for some. But basically I think a KR would have an easier time with using the honorblade. What Brandon meant was that the honorblades somewhat strengthens the same abilities but ultimately how much stormlight used and how effective (spren bond advantage) will determine the surgebinding strength. So a KR using a different order blade will be limited by skills/experience but they be healing more effectively and using stormlight more effectively than Szeth.

Actually Jasnah has agreed before their journey to include Shallan in her research right after learning about her lies. She choose to trust Shallan since then. No further developments have caused Jasnah to lose her trust in Shallan. She has already revealed much about voidbringers, ghostbloods and stuff to her in WoK. Not much reason to hold back now. Besides, its not a matter of wealth but knowledge. She even went as far to set Shallan up with Adolin. She knew the importance of her research and she knew she is being targetted by ghostbloods. If she was wise, she would have ensured that someone will continue her important work should any mishap occur. Shallan would be the best choice considering she is involved and she is most up to date, Nevani does not know or understand enough of the importance. I think being able to discern what is the greater good is part of what wisdom is about. I think her trust in Shallan can be said to be wise, though again, she doesnt display this primary attribute often enough. XD

I think a suitable context for each attribute might help but overall I wouldn't say its accurate enough. Renarin being Learned should have some sort of knowledge involved, I still do not see that in him, his keen perception of people doesnt quite fit imo. I actually hoped through his spren, he is able to shed light on KR matters but we see him rather helpless while Shallan figured out the Oathgate. I am hoping our truthwatcher would be able to see more useful things in future, he seems to suffer scary visions of deaths so far. Jasnah's main definitive trait is her intellect imo. Her pursue of knowledge, her intellectual discussions with Shallan, her reputation in the story all indicates intellect more so than wisdom. She didn't share her knowledge with Shallan before her assassination untill Shallan insisted, that was a lack in wisdom for example, things would be really bad if Shallan wasnt able to discover the Oathgate. The care attribute really depends on the context to make more sense, though I will just wait for her story to reveal more about her.

I initially thought honorblades need no bonds until I read somewhere about Szeth's bond to the windrunner blade being broken, mentioned in the book when he was saved by Nale. That confused me some.

Renarin compared to Learned & Giving; While he is geeky likable & earnest, we have other scholars outshining him, him being giving is not that obvious maybe a tad. Jasnah compared to Wise & Care. Not her definitive traits imho. Nevani wishes more wisdom for jasnah to go with her intelligence. Szeth compared to Just & Confident. I don't quite see this in Szeth as well, perhaps yet to. The rest are acceptable though not entirely spot on -Kaladin (Protecting & leading) ; spot on -Lift (Loving & healing ) ; love for food! healing sure -Shallan (Honesty & Creativity); creativity for her artistic nature, honesty might be a stretch but perhaps she is on her way to there -Dalinar (Pious & Guiding) ; acceptable -Taln (Dependable & resourceful) ; I might wait for more to be revealed

Definitely interesting to see how her story develops, her oddity with that plant of hers. And perhaps we get to see more KRs than the 10 that represents different orders. Ym was one of the extra KRs that got killed off or maybe he could be healed like Szeth before brain death. The divine attributes are somehow quite vague in determining the KRs, I have trouble with some of the attributes with the existing KRs.

Not as much as the bravery you would expect out of a knight. What came to mind was the last few scenes where Rsyn climbed down the cliff to prove herself worthy of the trade, subsequently falling into the waters and breaking her legs somewhat as I recalled. Definitely not what u expect from a trader. While I wont go as far as claiming she is more brave than other characters, I find her bravery unexpected and distinct and I believe more of her story would be revealed. [speculating stormlight healing those legs XD ]

The limitations would be dangerous level of stormlight usage and the experience or skills involved. Since Szeth does not have surgebinding abilities, he could only depend on experience and skill. KR might be able to rely on their innate healing and their stormlight usage should be superior to a normal human, making them better users of the honorblades. Skills and experience will be important as well. I think the Windrunner honorblade will not be useful to Kaladin, but I am looking forward to the KRs wielding more surgebinding abilities with the different honorblades.