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@Robinski yep, we'll make documents and load up the parts of the story we want comments on. -
I haven't forgotten about your ideas. Just been busy. I'll edit this post tomorrow with some thoughts. --edit-- @Swimmingly agreed. There would be a constant conflict between their rarity and their usefulness. Integrate them into society too much and they become targets. Keep them out and they're feared. @Chrono training is a huge part of a manipulator's life. There's a whole facility dedicated to understanding it more. And yes, a manipulator could jam the space just by placing something else where you teleport to. Like a rock.
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Just finished video #6. On to writing, I'll include my count when I get there. By the way, I agree, great thoughts on critiquing and the idea that writers write. We have a skill set we're perfecting, it doesn't matter what story we're telling. --edit-- 1200 words written. I'm feeling like most of this beginning will need some serious refinement. But it was good to get words on the page and get the ball rolling. Can't wait to hear more about how it's going!
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I can't post the link to the public forum. If you get me another email, I can send it through there. Our work shouldn't be available for anyone to find & read unless we authorize it, so I have to keep it private. As for word count, I found it extremely helpful for my growth as a writer in 2013. And it has only grown more this year. I'll go with the group as a whole, but I would like to do it.
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@WriteNowDave it's up to you where you put your writing. The folder I set up allows you to create a document and you can place the words you want critiqued there in that document. But it doesn't have to be everything you've written. @Robinski oh just a little fair that dates back...hundreds of years. Sounds cool, hope it's fun. Maximize the day off and enjoy it! Do you guys, as a group, want to track our word count over the next few weeks? Just so we can see if we write more because of this course? It could be an interesting statistic to have access to.
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This is the thread for reviews on my novella. It should be in your inbox if it sent correctly. Are you on the reading excuses email list?
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Next Monday. Just got to work. 8-5 then the night classes begin! How do you guys plan to watch through the videos? All at once, or over the course of the week? For the sake of family and other commitments, I'll probably watch half tonight, half another night, with a few hours for writing.
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Ok, the story is continuing from the first 1000 words. These next 2000 cover the follow up to the battle and the realization more is coming. Always looking forward to your thoughts!
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T-Minus 1 day for the East Coast of America. For the rest of you, enjoy the future while you're ahead. I can't wait! A few more hours, then it's starting. I nearly started watching tonight, but my wife stopped me...bummer. Submissions should be 1000-2000 words, whichever you want. This idea (I think) it to just get concepts and ideas evaluated by the group, not do an entire read-through of the book. Now, if you want to read the whole thing, that's not a bad idea. I'll know more once I get through the first few videos.
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@Robinski cheating! It's ok, I did too, it's helpful. We'll all be watching it soon anyway. For me, I didn't want people to feel pressured to submit more work then necessary. I want to help people really grab a hold of their style and conflict with some specifics. Sometimes, longer reviews can become tedious to use and implement. With only 30,000 words to work with, we'll need to make adjustments quickly, being flexible. Having said that, 2000 words isn't bad and if we want to do that, let's do it. Anyone else have thoughts on this? For the first two weeks we'll keep it as one group. If we find it's overwhelming, we'll divide it up into two. I've got my basic outline still, but I'm fleshing out the internal conflict for my main character and the external conflict that he finds himself on the wrong side of morally. Basically, what starts for him as the right pragmatic decision becomes a moral issue when someone dies and his loyalty to his word is brought into question. This is all to the backdrop to one of the greatest discoveries of the century in the universe that I've built.
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@WriteNowDave a comedy would be a different take on the Sci-Fi genre. I'll be curious to see where it goes. What is "rastling"? Will this be poking fun at some stereotypes in the genre, like little green men from outer space? T-Minus 2 days everyone! Any last minute concepts for your novella ideas?
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@manaheim gotta keep submitting! I've got something for the July 21st 2000 words
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The particle manipulation is made possible by the manipulator. It won't be dependent on iron really, just burn heat off if you're shifting down, consuming heat if your shifting up. All in a local area around the shifting material. I think that it would be cool, but there's no real reason it would be pivoting off of iron. It'll just be a shifting point, whatever element you're working on will cause either heat or cold as you shift it. Now, maybe in more extreme situations, like heavier materials, more heat or coldness could be caused by a shift. So if you shift lead, it creates a lot of heat when you go to gold. Or visa versa. Teleportation, I agree. It's dangerous, though if you explore ahead to the next location, you can be sure you won't die if you try it. And I definitely wouldn't trust someone else with it, not right away. Over time though, maybe there could be couriers, manipulators that just shift from place to place and can deliver messages or items if there was a great enough need.
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Go ahead and post on the forum thread listed above, then PM me your email, we'll get you included!
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[Tap Tap] ... Is this thing on?
Endurant Archivist replied to WriteNowDave's topic in Reading Excuses
Hey, welcome back. Check out the pinned threads about the Email List and Welcome to Reading Excuses. Then, as you get submissions, start talking about them with the author in the appropriate thread! -
There's still room, but I may divide us up into two smaller critique groups so everyone can participate. Shoot me your email!
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@Chrono that sword, the Buster Sword, is insane. I didn't actually think they would be able to lift, or swing, or anything with that thing. Wow...great work by that blacksmith. Anyway, the idea with the nukes is amusing. Maybe way down the road, but my stories, right now, are set in a late medieval/early renaissance period. There are variations, I'll post a topic on the timeline of my universe some other time. But essentially, that's where people are. People fear the manipulators they know about, or at least, most do. There's a band that are studying the effects of manipulation, but it's still and early science. This is where most known manipulators are located. @Swimmingly the iron–if it's changed up three times to copper–would draw the extra energy from itself. So there would be less iron. But some heat could be taken in the transfer. Just like it's given off if you go down. That could also cause some restrictions on how quickly you could shift down elements without causing extreme heat. I'm not sure I'm understanding your concept with a manipulator against a man in a cold iron suit. Could you explain that more? Another concept I was having was the ability to teleport to specific locations. Along these routes there could be way stations set up, so that more and more manipulators could use them, easing the difficulty of teleporting. This isn't something that will be discovered right away, but once it is, the implications for travel are incredible, vs more mundane traveling by foot. Then there are possibilities for paying a manipulator to transport you faster. I wonder what effect that would have on you?
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T-Minus 4 Days!
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That's a great mental image. It'd be a cool piece of lore too. I know things get hotter as they shift. It would make sense that a shift down could result in more heat because it has excess particles drifting off. And your image gives a good idea of the time it takes to do this. Not hours, but definitely not instantaneous either. It would be a small village to the north, a few manipulators who only understood parts of their power trying to live with others, becoming valuable members of the community. I think the picture attached here too. That's one super solid idea. What else? Perpetually keeping their own drinks hot. Useful skill...
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@sunshine the post-apocalyptic heist sounds like fun. Though I'm wondering how benevolent crime lords work too lol. @Mandamon that's how universes seem to go. Mine was bouncing around for about five years, then two years ago I really solidified it with my first novel. Now I've got two more written in it, this novella will be the third. As I write more, it really starts to flesh out and grow. @Smurf(for short) glad to have you on board. Sounds like the start of a good idea, you have the rules in place. Let us know when you come up with a story. So, with a larger group, I say we attempt to comment on everyone's submissions the first week, to see if we can handle it. We'll break into smaller groups from there if we need to.
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@Chronos yeah those are some solid ideas. How would they get to the point where they understand exactly what they're doing though, nukes are some serious tech? I've made the rules out of story, but manipulators don't necessarily understand the implications of what they're doing in story. So, maybe let's pull off some of the technological edge. Because they'd need to build the framework for all this stuff. Keep in mind, there aren't many of them. I don't think mass production would work well with them. @Swimmingly good questions. I'm exploring some of these things, but lets just say there is a centralized group of them, about 100 that are focuses on researching their own condition. Others are scattered around the island continents and they have no idea why they can do what they do. So keep exploring a few of those tangents. Here's another idea. If you can heat things around you with sustained focus and effort, could you survive the extreme frozen wastelands to the north with relative ease. I guess you'd need something to eat though... Or, could you use your ability to move particles to hold a bubble of air around you underwater?
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07.13.2014 - manaheim - Redemption's Edge - Ch2 (L)
Endurant Archivist replied to manaheim's topic in Reading Excuses
I think that you should keep posting another chapter or two at least. Keep in mind, reactions are reactions, that's why we're putting ourselves out here on this forum. If something's getting a different reaction then you were thinking, it's good to know, if nothing else, because it aligns what we think we're putting out with what readers are seeing. That's invaluable knowledge. Maybe you should take these two chapters past a couple other people too, if you can find some good readers, to see if their reaction is the same. -
If you have trouble with tech, email me and I'll do what I can. If you need, I can upload your submissions for you, as is, to the Google Folder. But post those questions to the Reading Excuses forum, we'll take care of it there!
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@Robinski got it. I'll be paying attention. I've never read Pratchett. Might look it up. Might not. One of those "Do you really have time to look up something interesting? Or should you just read what you already have to read?" moments. @Mandamon Ahhhhh! Exciting, another universe builder! I'm definitely looking forward to that. How did you start building your universe? We need to be talk more about this
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@Robinski going against type can be hard sometimes. Now, having said that, I'm all for it. But I struggle to think in terms of types like you're talking about. I tend to think about character types, like antagonist, friend, mentor, hero, etc. I'm looking forward to reading this story. What's the idea behind your story? @Mandamon I've never heard of the Seeds of Dissolution universe. What is it? I'll be fleshing out my outline more this friday, just before the class starts. What do you guys think of Google Docs? Working for you?
