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Oh we did get that one answered? I've been too slack on interviews lately.

Well, disregard that second paragraph then

 

 

Food if you're Lift

Plus technically all of Scadrial, it was entirely created by Shards after all.

Was it? I always thought it was an existing planet that was effectively terraformed by Preservation and Ruin and then they created life on it.

Think of it not as WHAT they did but WHY they did it.  As a random example, perhaps Leras became involved because he wanted the power to preserve the life of a loved one who was sick and dying. 

Or possibly the 16 realised what was happening, Adonalsium was about to pull all of its splinters back into itself, which would effectively make everyone cease to exist as individuals, and they decided not to let that happen.

Personally I just think Sazed was wary of Kel trying to punch him, he'd done it to the other shard holders after all.

Sorry for the thread necro, but I thought it would be better than starting a new thread with Calamity but a few weeks away.

 

Anyway, I also believed, right from Steelheart, that all epics are gifters. It's just that they are pretty much all to selfish/paranoid to give up any of their powers. I also thought that Calamity is probably a gifter, but what if it is gifting to stop itself from going evil and destroying, well, everything?

 

Meaning he created it or just that he is the leader? While I suspect Kelsier left to find something to do after being 'The Sovereign,' I find it unlikely that the 17th Shard is only ~350 years old. Not saying he isn't involved in it though.

Running, he is a crew leader after all, but I'd assume the organisation itself is much older. It does make an odd kind of sense and it wasn't something I'd ever have considered before Night Eyes post.

Does anyone think Demoux is hunting Hoid on Roshar on Kelsier's orders?

That would imply Kel is running the 17th shard...

 

Off topic but I'd like to believe Spook became a world hopper as well, after their little chat at the end. Not seen anything in any of the books yet to indicate he did, but it would be nice.

 

It may be that in the end, the best thing for the Cosmere is the  shattering of all shards but it seem to me that there is an enemy that is greater in power than any shard and may require someone taking up Adonalsium 's full power if that is possible.

Would Ati have a connection to Ruin? I know Ruin itself wasn't technically evil but even so, it would have been hard to justify how to use it for a good purpose.

I have a couple of thoughts related to that and I'm not sure which I prefer. Either Adonalsium was shattered to prevent its opposite from somehow taking its power. Or the 16 used the weapon the opposite created to then shatter Adonalsium. (Perhaps Odium still has the weapon which is why he's able to defeat the other shards.)

My only problem with the 2nd theory is why the 16 wanted to do it. I can understand why the opposite would give them the weapon to do it, but not why they would want to.

 

Summary: Trell is related to Dominion; the higher ranking members of the Set are Svrakiss from Sel.

I'd pretty much forgotten about the Svrakiss, Coppermind wiki has this to say about them:

The Derethi believed that they had the ability to take of the bodies of living men and control their actions.

Words of radiance spoiler ahead

I know it's way off but if they were to make the Wax & Wayne era films now Timothy Olyphant as Wax.

But an eye socket is where there isn't any bone. It's the flesh and blood there that gets spiked.

 

This is why my vote is that he got a mistwraith/Kandra to create his body from his bones.

Not quite, the inquisitor eye spikes stuck out the back of the skull, so the skull itself is being spiked.

 

I suppose that's possible. Perhaps Odium goes there in an attempt to gain Ruin for added strength, as that would be the only Shard that wouldn't necessarily alter his intent too drastically.

I had wondered if the person writing it down assumed it was night, but perhaps it should be Knight?

They've probably been spotted before, but the reason Axies hasn't found them yet is probably because he is so optimistic and carefree. (Or at least as far as we've seen him) You can't make yourself feel deprived of freedom.

Sorry, didn't mean it was odd Axies hadn't found them, but Kaladin, who has been a slave and imprisoned before, didn't recognize them. You'd think someone who had gone through what he had would have seen, or at least heard tell of them.

Oh and Monica Bellucci as Navani, and my second choice for Jasnah would be Morena Baccarin.

Maybe. I was just thinking about high fantasy movies, in general, and potential Cosmere adaptations, in particular. The only really successful high fantasy movies were the LotR adaptations (and I guess The Hobbit, too, even if they took a lot of criticism). In recent years, anyway. I feel like high fantasy needs a big win for Hollywood to be willing to invest in something like a Cosmere adaptation.

I think, due to the sheer scope of the Stormlight Archive, it would need to be a tv series like Game of Thrones, rather than a movie (or movies). Mistborn would probably be more suitable for a trilogy of movies.

They would both require a fair bit of spray tan but Neal McDonough as Dalinar and Anne Hathaway as Jasnah would be my picks.

Oddly enough I mentioned this the other day in a different thread. Captivityspren were my first thought too but I've been swithering since. I can't make up my mind between them or some form of Odium spren. The only reason I think they may not be captivityspren is surely they would have been spotted before?

 

I think that the Unmade/Odium Spren are already influencing the world and the people in it.  As an example I think Taravangian is actually being manipulated by Moelach.  Which is ironic considering Taravangian is how we know about Moelach in the first place.

I've just finished WoR again and something I picked up that I hadn't noticed before was that when Kaladin was in prison "He stood, waving away some strange spren like taut wires crossing before him". My first thought were captivityspren, like Axies the collector was looking for in the first book, but the more I thought about that the less likely it seemed. Then I was wondering, could they have been spren of Odium working on him? It might go some way to explain how low he sunk so low so quickly while in prison.

I think that the Unmade/Odium Spren are already influencing the world and the people in it.  As an example I think Taravangian is actually being manipulated by Moelach.  Which is ironic considering Taravangian is how we know about Moelach in the first place.

 

I've just finished WoR again and something I picked up that I hadn't noticed before was that when Kaladin was in prison "He stood, waving away some strange spren like taut wires crossing before him". My first thought were captivityspren, like Axies the collector was looking for in the first book, but the more I thought about that the less likely it seemed. Then I was wondering, could they have been spren of Odium working on him? It might go some way to explain how low he sunk so low so quickly while in prison.

Yeah He could but There is no benefit to use it I suppose. The Honorblade are less efficent than a SprenBlade and you will use stormlight faster.

 

But for example if Kal bond with the Taln's Honorblade he may access to 4 Surge. Pretty cool ;-)

I would assume he could use the honour blade as a sword and Syl as a shield without her having to constantly switch forms. I'd say that was a benefit.

Be awesome.

So, the conclusion I get is that Odium Splintering Honor did something to him that means he can't leave the Greater Roshar system. What that was, your guess is mine.

Or could it be the oathpact that has trapped him?

You haven't taken into account the time it took for the shards to reach their planets. Depending on how far they were from the breaking point it could take vastly differing times for shards to get to their own planets. Also there is nothing to say Ruin and Preservation immediately decided to make humans when they reached Scadrial. They could have bickered over the details for millenia first.

My guess is it has to do with the appearance of Taln or as some theorize - fake taln. Hoid either has something to do with the release of the real taln or the creation of he who thinks he is taln.

Hmmm the wording of your post made me think. What if when Hoid was talking to Dalinar about taking someone apart and putting them back together again he wasn't talking about himself, or a shard holder (I'd assumed it was one or the other he was meaning) but Taln. Maybe he's patched him up, or created a new version, with fragments of souls or something? Ok, probably not, but it would be interesting if it were Taln he was talking about in some way.