Wonder if this line is still relevant to the philosophy of these things

[LewsTherinTelescope]

(Trying to keep title vague)

Ran across this line from the Former's speech again:

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Promises. Promises for me are not what they are for men. I am made of promises--promises to exist, promises to think, promises to be. I said I would not intervene in my sons’ contest. A promise made before their hatred of one another manifest, when they loved. I am bound. I cannot intervene any more than you can make the sun vanish, emperor of men.

I wonder if this is still relevant to the current Cosmere and Shards. Not in a literal manner, necessarily. But in how Brandon envisions these types of being viewing themselves.

(This would very much be a kind of philosophical view, not the Shards like, literally being promises manifest, but I can see that kind of idea arising with the whole "Dawnshards are Commands" thing. If Dawnshards are Commanding things, could the Investiture out there following these Commands be viewed kind of as promising to carry it out? That sort of deal.)

Nothing terribly important or major, just an idle wonder.

Edited August 19, 2021 by LewsTherinTelescope

[Weltall]

Nice thought. I suspect that the idea did make it into the canonical Cosmere in at least some form since we know from the Stormfather, Odium and WoBs that Shards are absolutely bound by capital-o Oaths that they make. Breaking things that don't qualify as proper oaths is okay though.

To go to your idea about Investiture 'promising' to carry out a Command, that's kind of how Awakening works. We're told that if you break apart an Awakened object, the pieces of it can still try to carry out the Command if they're able to do so.

[LewsTherinTelescope]

On 8/18/2021 at 10:42 PM, Weltall said:

Nice thought. I suspect that the idea did make it into the canonical Cosmere in at least some form since we know from the Stormfather, Odium and WoBs that Shards are absolutely bound by capital-o Oaths that they make. Breaking things that don't qualify as proper oaths is okay though.

To go to your idea about Investiture 'promising' to carry out a Command, that's kind of how Awakening works. We're told that if you break apart an Awakened object, the pieces of it can still try to carry out the Command if they're able to do so.

Oh cool, yeah that does match that idea.